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[snakeboy86]

What I can't stand is everytime shep whips out a pistol, it's a predator...even though I might be using a talon or eagle

[Sdrol117]

snakeboy86 wrote...

What I can't stand is everytime shep whips out a pistol, it's a predator...even though I might be using a talon or eagle

Which is exactly what we are talking about, it's the same idea behind the avenger. He's been doing this for 3 games, but I now know the truth. Shepard has TRANSGORMING guns. It is PROVEN in the Shadow Broker DLC, when his Shuriken TRANSFORMS into a Carnifex! They really should have threw some lore in behind this...

[formshifter]

Sdrol117 wrote...

It happend a lot in ME1. You probably just forgot. Also happened consistently in ME2. shepard would switch guns, Miranda holds assault rifles. All of it. 

Actually, no it didn't. Probably helped that there were only 2 guns (with different palettes). Remember, in ME1 everyone carried everything (even if they couldn't use them well). Shepard, the badass Marine, having a rifle out wasn't really a stretch (since he carried it with him and it was the right gun).

ME2: Shepard has a Phalanx, Widow, and Tempest equipped. He somehow appears in every cutscene with an Avenger Rifle, or shows up holding an Avenger Rifle on a Predator stock. THen again, he might be holding a Predator pistol for some reason. Yeah, that happens.

Don't know why (especially the in game cut scenes), but it happens.

ME3: Well, the gun hybrids are gone, but we basically have Shepard equipped like a raw recruit (rather than, you know, the most amazing and epic commando in the galaxy).

[Sdrol117]

formshifter wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

It happend a lot in ME1. You probably just forgot. Also happened consistently in ME2. shepard would switch guns, Miranda holds assault rifles. All of it. 

Actually, no it didn't. Probably helped that there were only 2 guns (with different palettes). Remember, in ME1 everyone carried everything (even if they couldn't use them well). Shepard, the badass Marine, having a rifle out wasn't really a stretch (since he carried it with him and it was the right gun).

ME2: Shepard has a Phalanx, Widow, and Tempest equipped. He somehow appears in every cutscene with an Avenger Rifle, or shows up holding an Avenger Rifle on a Predator stock. THen again, he might be holding a Predator pistol for some reason. Yeah, that happens.

Don't know why (especially the in game cut scenes), but it happens.

ME3: Well, the gun hybrids are gone, but we basically have Shepard equipped like a raw recruit (rather than, you know, the most amazing and epic commando in the galaxy).

How many times are you dumb people going to argue? It DID happen consistently in ME1, he WOULD pull out the predator even if you did NOT have it equipped. You people should either learn to read, or pay better attention. The first thing I did in ME1 was equip the red carnifex looking pistol you got from Eden prime that was way too strong for that part of the game, and I would NEVER equip the ugly predator gun, and he WOULD pull it out during many cutscenes. Get a grip. 

Modifié par Sdrol117, 22 avril 2012 - 04:30 .

[xsdob]

Sdrol117 wrote...

formshifter wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

It happend a lot in ME1. You probably just forgot. Also happened consistently in ME2. shepard would switch guns, Miranda holds assault rifles. All of it. 

Actually, no it didn't. Probably helped that there were only 2 guns (with different palettes). Remember, in ME1 everyone carried everything (even if they couldn't use them well). Shepard, the badass Marine, having a rifle out wasn't really a stretch (since he carried it with him and it was the right gun).

ME2: Shepard has a Phalanx, Widow, and Tempest equipped. He somehow appears in every cutscene with an Avenger Rifle, or shows up holding an Avenger Rifle on a Predator stock. THen again, he might be holding a Predator pistol for some reason. Yeah, that happens.

Don't know why (especially the in game cut scenes), but it happens.

ME3: Well, the gun hybrids are gone, but we basically have Shepard equipped like a raw recruit (rather than, you know, the most amazing and epic commando in the galaxy).

How many times are you dumb people going to argue? It DID happen consistently in ME1, he WOULD pull out the predator even if you did NOT have it equipped. You people should either learn to read, or pay better attention. The first thing I did in ME1 was equip the red carnifex looking pistol you got from Eden prime that was way too strong for that part of the game, and I would NEVER equip the ugly predator gun, and he WOULD pull it out during many cutscenes. Get a grip. 

Ignore them, or tell others about how stupid they are. Because if video evidence isn't enough to convince them that this happens in a video game, than nothing will.

[Sdrol117]

xsdob wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

formshifter wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

It happend a lot in ME1. You probably just forgot. Also happened consistently in ME2. shepard would switch guns, Miranda holds assault rifles. All of it. 

Actually, no it didn't. Probably helped that there were only 2 guns (with different palettes). Remember, in ME1 everyone carried everything (even if they couldn't use them well). Shepard, the badass Marine, having a rifle out wasn't really a stretch (since he carried it with him and it was the right gun).

ME2: Shepard has a Phalanx, Widow, and Tempest equipped. He somehow appears in every cutscene with an Avenger Rifle, or shows up holding an Avenger Rifle on a Predator stock. THen again, he might be holding a Predator pistol for some reason. Yeah, that happens.

Don't know why (especially the in game cut scenes), but it happens.

ME3: Well, the gun hybrids are gone, but we basically have Shepard equipped like a raw recruit (rather than, you know, the most amazing and epic commando in the galaxy).

How many times are you dumb people going to argue? It DID happen consistently in ME1, he WOULD pull out the predator even if you did NOT have it equipped. You people should either learn to read, or pay better attention. The first thing I did in ME1 was equip the red carnifex looking pistol you got from Eden prime that was way too strong for that part of the game, and I would NEVER equip the ugly predator gun, and he WOULD pull it out during many cutscenes. Get a grip. 

Ignore them, or tell others about how stupid they are. Because if video evidence isn't enough to convince them that this happens in a video game, than nothing will.

I'm really getting frustrated with all the people quoting me saying I'm wrong, when they could go on youtube, and actually find out that they themselves are wrong.  

[xsdob]

^I know but they will never stop. It's like trying to prove to a moon landing conspiracy theorist or a Kennedy assassination conspiracy theorist that they are wrong. Unless you take them to the event itself and put them exactly where the moon lander landed or next to Oswald as he takes the shot they will never be convinced.

So unless you know where they live and can make them boot up mass effect 1 and 2, make them select the pistols and show them the cutscene on their own television they will always deny it happened.

[Sdrol117]

xsdob wrote...

^I know but they will never stop. It's like trying to prove to a moon landing conspiracy theorist or a Kennedy assassination conspiracy theorist that they are wrong. Unless you take them to the event itself and put them exactly where the moon lander landed or next to Oswald as he takes the shot they will never be convinced.

So unless you know where they live and can make them boot up mass effect 1 and 2, make them select the pistols and show them the cutscene on their own television they will always deny it happened.

-creepy stalker mode activated- It will be done. 

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Yep that's the Avenger. Oh, wait...

[Sdrol117]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...



Yep that's the Avenger. Oh, wait...

So it does happen in other areas of the game, where the guns shoots nothing like it should be. Also, funny how jack and kasumi have assault rifles, makes me giggle. Thanks for actually contributing this time. 

[Captain_Obvious_au]

So what? The problem isn't squaddies having weapons they shouldn't have, I agree that has been going on for all three games. The problem is that Shepard is using a weapon other than what s/he is equipped with, which happened a few times in ME2 but almost always in ME3.

[Sdrol117]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

So what? The problem isn't squaddies having weapons they shouldn't have, I agree that has been going on for all three games. The problem is that Shepard is using a weapon other than what s/he is equipped with, which happened a few times in ME2 but almost always in ME3.

There are instances of it switching back in forth in all three games. That isn't even an argument, that's just common knowledge. It just occurs most often in ME3. If there is a technical reason, I do not know it.

[ToJKa1]

Stupid cutscene Shepard, why are you firing at the car with the Predator toy pistol when you have a frigging machine gun and an anti-materiel rifle on your back?!

So yes, i have noticed and been annoyed by this too.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

When you're trolling, yes.

In one piece of 'evidence' that Sdroll provides, sure Liara's gun changes, yet Shepard is carrying the correct weapon which, shock horror, isn't the default one.

As for the second piece, so what? There's no indication that Zaeed isn't just pulling the trigger quickly to make it look like it's automatic. Even if it is full auto, and the Mattock certainly is in some cut-scenes, at least it's the right gun! In ME3 Shepard, if carrying an assault rifle, often walks around with a magical M-8 Avenger as well as the other assault rifle. Show me one time that has happened in either ME1 or ME2.

Sdroll is claiming that the issue of Shepard having magical weapons and almost always carrying the default weapon in a cutscene isn't new to ME3 is wrong, and the pieces of 'evidence' they've provided don't support their case. The evidence I provided does support my case.

Modifié par Captain_Obvious_au, 22 avril 2012 - 08:08 .

[RumpleCragstan]

Melancholic wrote...

ME3 is better than ME2 in this regard. Believe it not, Shepard is actually holding the gun she's equipped with for some cutscenes. I only noticed this in my second playthrough, where she's holding the N7 sniper rifle for most of the cutscenes in the early portion of the game.

The further you get, the more it turns into an avenger it seems. I blame the deadline.

This definitely seems to be the case. I just finished Tuchanka tonight on my 2nd play through, and it seemed like 2/3 of the time Shep and company had the correct weapons in hand. But every once in a while, without any rhyme or reason, Avengers would show up.

At first I thought it might have been something to do with whether or not the weapons were being fired (in which case we might see the Avengers because they wanted a consistent firing rate or something) or if the scene was a segway into combat without a scene shift (in which case they'd be more inspired to keep the correct weapon models), this turns out not to be the case. There were scenes in the shuttle using the correct weapon, and cutscenes right in the middle of action when the Magical Artistic Integrity Avenger (MAIA) made its appearance.


There really doesn't seem to be any pattern to what guns get shown on screen.

[Transgirlgamer]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

The OP is correct, this doesn't happen in the other games. It does sometimes in ME2, but generally only to the Firepower Pack weapons, particularly the M-5 Phalanx. It is rather annoying, and bizarre when you see Shep carrying an Avenger with another assault rifle strapped to his back...

Then please explain how my infiltrator Shepard, who can't use assault rifles, in most of the cutscenes in ME2 is toting and even firing an Avenger.

[Dreadstruck]

Sdrol117 wrote...
How many times are you dumb people going to argue? It DID happen consistently in ME1, he WOULD pull out the predator even if you did NOT have it equipped. You people should either learn to read, or pay better attention. The first thing I did in ME1 was equip the red carnifex looking pistol you got from Eden prime that was way too strong for that part of the game, and I would NEVER equip the ugly predator gun, and he WOULD pull it out during many cutscenes. Get a grip.

Ligthen up, no need for the heated emotion behind your replies. It's just a freaking discussion over a forum, not a slanging match.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 22 avril 2012 - 09:44 .

[BatmanPWNS]

It's happened way more times in ME3 than ME1 or 2. It's quite annoying. Especially since I can clearly see my Shepard holding the gun in his back. Yeah, I totally carry 2 assault rifles.

[res27772]

The guns changing in cutscenes aren't the only things that don't work properly. The cutscenes in a lot of situations are glitchy as hell - for example when Shepard is talking to someone on her earpience and she has her hand pressed to the side of her face, the arm/hand keeps twitching up and down. Another example is in some cutscenes (e.g. when talking about Glyph with Liara) the people don't always look at each other, they seem to be looking at some other fixed point. The most glitchy scene I've seen is when (I think it was) Shepard is talking to the Salarians about sabotaging the genophage cure, Shep is looking off to the side, the movements are jerky, and it's truly horrible to watch.

I can see the 'artistic integrity' written all over these cutscenes...

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Transgirlgamer wrote...

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

The OP is correct, this doesn't happen in the other games. It does sometimes in ME2, but generally only to the Firepower Pack weapons, particularly the M-5 Phalanx. It is rather annoying, and bizarre when you see Shep carrying an Avenger with another assault rifle strapped to his back...

Then please explain how my infiltrator Shepard, who can't use assault rifles, in most of the cutscenes in ME2 is toting and even firing an Avenger.

That's a different issue. If the cutscene calls for the use of an assault rifle, then the magical gun has to appear. It's different though to already being equipped with an assault rifle, and a magical and inferior one suddenly appearing for cutscenes.

Both are bad I fully admit, but they're different issues.

[SOG TOUGH]

The best "lol" for me in this case is Jacob with an Avenger on Freedom's Hope just before you fight the heavy mech.

[formshifter]

Sdrol117 wrote...

There are instances of it switching back in forth in all three games. That isn't even an argument, that's just common knowledge. It just occurs most often in ME3. If there is a technical reason, I do not know it.

I never noticed it in ME1. My character always had the proper model, and I wasn't paying attention to the palette swap. Guess I was lucky or didn't have the right random drops for it to happen. I gues part of it was also that in 1 there weren't as many game breaks with cut scenes, and the ones we got were a LOT more immersive (especially as compared to ME3).

[Sdrol117]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

When you're trolling, yes.

In one piece of 'evidence' that Sdroll provides, sure Liara's gun changes, yet Shepard is carrying the correct weapon which, shock horror, isn't the default one.

As for the second piece, so what? There's no indication that Zaeed isn't just pulling the trigger quickly to make it look like it's automatic. Even if it is full auto, and the Mattock certainly is in some cut-scenes, at least it's the right gun! In ME3 Shepard, if carrying an assault rifle, often walks around with a magical M-8 Avenger as well as the other assault rifle. Show me one time that has happened in either ME1 or ME2.

Sdroll is claiming that the issue of Shepard having magical weapons and almost always carrying the default weapon in a cutscene isn't new to ME3 is wrong, and the pieces of 'evidence' they've provided don't support their case. The evidence I provided does support my case.

Uuum no. You should learn to pay attention ,or stop being an idiot. SHEPARDS GUN CHANGES IN THE CUTSCENE. You're quite possibly the most unintelligent person in this thread. 

Modifié par Sdrol117, 22 avril 2012 - 04:38 .

[Sdrol117]

I'm going to stop replying to the unintelligent morons on this thread. I'm done trying to educate the ignorant child Mass Effect masses who want to blindly pretend all their games are perfect except ME3 because they are mad at it for being bad.