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[Melkor-Son of None]

I convinced Anora to marry Alistair. But I did this before I realized I could marry her. The Landsmeet has not occured yet, so I am just wondering if I can still marry her.

Thanks.


p.s. Can Femal Human Nobles also marry her?

[Genraku]

Female nobles get to marry Alistair instead of Arnora (to the same effect though if Alistair becomes king over Arnora) If you want to marry Arnora yourself you will prolly have to speak with her again before the ladnsmeet.

[TuringPoint]

I'm pretty sure you would be able to. It should give you the option to suggest it, anyway. I remember the option to offer marriage to Alistair was available for my female elf pc.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Yeah I'd probably advise going to speak to her again if you can. Also if you do want to marry her, if you are going to do a certain something, make sure it is Alastair that does it, not you or she won't marry you.

[Virtual_Van_Gogh]

You don't have to speak to Anora again to my knowledge. As a Female Human Noble, I was asked my opinion about who should be the leader of Ferelden. I nominated myself as queen, and no one argued, least of all Alistair. I imagine you could do the same as a Human Noble Male, if you haven't hardened Alistair or convinced him to be king, as he really doesn't want the job anyway.

[Maria Caliban]

Melkor-Son of None wrote...

p.s. Can Femal Human Nobles also marry her?

No, but if you harden her, she'll keep you as a mistress.

[Original182]

Virtual_Van_Gogh wrote...

You don't have to speak to Anora again to my knowledge. As a Female Human Noble, I was asked my opinion about who should be the leader of Ferelden. I nominated myself as queen, and no one argued, least of all Alistair. I imagine you could do the same as a Human Noble Male, if you haven't hardened Alistair or convinced him to be king, as he really doesn't want the job anyway.

How is it possible that someone who is not of Calenhad's line, who has zero experience in ruling the country and has no royal ties, be the queen over 2 of the most eligible candidates?

Are you sure you didn't marry Alistair to become queen?

[Nerolink]

Original182 wrote...

Virtual_Van_Gogh wrote...

You don't have to speak to Anora again to my knowledge. As a Female Human Noble, I was asked my opinion about who should be the leader of Ferelden. I nominated myself as queen, and no one argued, least of all Alistair. I imagine you could do the same as a Human Noble Male, if you haven't hardened Alistair or convinced him to be king, as he really doesn't want the job anyway.

How is it possible that someone who is not of Calenhad's line, who has zero experience in ruling the country and has no royal ties, be the queen over 2 of the most eligible candidates?

Are you sure you didn't marry Alistair to become queen?

Actually, if you played the human noble origin story, there is some dialogue about your father Bryce Cousland being considered for King over Maric after the Orelesian War, but he passed on the idea because of the Calenhad lineage. I think it's from the teacher guy.

[Original182]

Nerolink wrote...
Actually, if you played the human noble origin story, there is some dialogue about your father Bryce Cousland being considered for King over Maric after the Orelesian War, but he passed on the idea because of the Calenhad lineage. I think it's from the teacher guy.

Ok, so maybe you have some ties to the throne, but I don't see it as any more than the 2 existing candidates. Even Arl Eamon may have a stronger case by being Cailan's uncle.
Then there's the matter of beating Anora's experience. The main character is a relative unknown compared to Anora.

Hey is this really possible in-game? If it is, this is a major plothole.

[challenger18]

Original182 wrote...

Nerolink wrote...
Actually, if you played the human noble origin story, there is some dialogue about your father Bryce Cousland being considered for King over Maric after the Orelesian War, but he passed on the idea because of the Calenhad lineage. I think it's from the teacher guy.

Ok, so maybe you have some ties to the throne, but I don't see it as any more than the 2 existing candidates. Even Arl Eamon may have a stronger case by being Cailan's uncle.
Then there's the matter of beating Anora's experience. The main character is a relative unknown compared to Anora.

Hey is this really possible in-game? If it is, this is a major plothole.

Not really. Anora has no ties with the Calenhad line, she was just married to Cailen. All she has is experience. Alistair has the lineage, which is why he is who Arl Eamon wants to push. Kings do what they want, and marrying a noble  who is also closely knit to the royal line isn't far fetched at all.

Plus, at the landsmeet if you convense people to go with Alistair, then that's it. It's done, vote passed. Well, then the duel happens, but winner chooses the terms and everyone agrees.

[Virtual_Van_Gogh]

Thank you. Maybe I wasn't clear. If you harden up Alistair, he can rule alone. If you have influence, male or female, whatever your race, you can convince him to do this. If so, things even go so far as to Anora being locked in a tower, since she won't willingly relinquish her hold on the throne.



As a female noble, if you push (along with Arl Eamon) for Alistair to take the throne, you can "attach" yourself on as queen -- no one will argue it, because they specifically ASK you who you think should rule.



As a human noble male, before the landsmeet, when Anora is trying to pimp your vote, again, you can maneuver your way into rule. Keep in mind, that in whatever scenario, whether it be Human male noble plus Anora, or Anora plus Alistair, she is a cold, manipulative sociopath, who refuses to really share the rule. As long as she's in the mix, anyone else is a paper ruler -- a figurehead.



As a female noble, you essentially take the same role as Anora. Even when you "harden" Alistair up, there is a dialogue option where you can tell him that his independence is good, so long as he listens to you. You think this guy may have mommy issues or is whipped? hehe love the compliant cuties...

[screwoffreg]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Melkor-Son of None wrote...

p.s. Can Femal Human Nobles also marry her?

No, but if you harden her, she'll keep you as a mistress.

I must've missed the secret lesbian overtones with Anora 

[Rainen89]

You have to tell her that her father is planning on using her and that everyone is looking out for themselves and that she should do the same.

[Virtual_Van_Gogh]

I missed the lesbian angle with Anora too... ): I guess it's time to dust off the old save points. It's amazing how much you miss, even when being "thorough" the first time through, but even more amazing how much better you are the second, third, and fourth times around...

[LesserHellspawn]

challenger18 wrote...
Then there's the matter of beating Anora's experience. The main character is a relative unknown compared to Anora.

You really mean unknown or just inexperienced ? Because at that point in the game you're known pretty much all over Ferelden. People have heard that you have gathered an army against the darkspawn and that you had a major part in calling that landsmeet.

[Dennis Carpenter]

I am currently running a bloodmage trying to get to endgame in the hopes allowing Loghain to become a grey warden, sleeping with morrigan to ensure no wardens die allowing loghain the final blow and marrying Anora.......................Quite the task. Let you know if I can do it

[Thor Rand Al]

Virtual_Van_Gogh wrote...
You don't have to speak to Anora again to my knowledge. As a Female Human Noble, I was asked my opinion about who should be the leader of Ferelden. I nominated myself as queen, and no one argued, least of all Alistair. I imagine you could do the same as a Human Noble Male, if you haven't hardened Alistair or convinced him to be king, as he really doesn't want the job anyway.

Is this even possible for a male PC to become King without havin to marry Anora... N if so how lol

[Xandurpein]

Dennis Carpenter wrote...

I am currently running a bloodmage trying to get to endgame in the hopes allowing Loghain to become a grey warden, sleeping with morrigan to ensure no wardens die allowing loghain the final blow and marrying Anora.......................Quite the task. Let you know if I can do it

Well... I think the only thing that isn't doable is letting Loghain take the final blow. If you slept with Morrigan so no warden dies I think it will be you who automatically kills the Archdemon.

[Virtual_Van_Gogh]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Virtual_Van_Gogh wrote...
You don't have to speak to Anora again to my knowledge. As a Female Human Noble, I was asked my opinion about who should be the leader of Ferelden. I nominated myself as queen, and no one argued, least of all Alistair. I imagine you could do the same as a Human Noble Male, if you haven't hardened Alistair or convinced him to be king, as he really doesn't want the job anyway.

Is this even possible for a male PC to become King without havin to marry Anora... N if so how lol

I've played this through as a male and female noble, and so far, here is what I've seen.

1.) As a human noble female, you can become queen by marrying Alistair, or just his consort/lover after you convince him to marry Anora.

2.) As a male noble, you can become a prince consort to Anora, but the odd thing is (an I don't know if it's a glitch or what), after I won the game, I was referred to as her future king -- but at the end of the game "recap", they said Anora never married because she always compared all the suitors to her father,and found them all wanting... ok, WTF!?!

I even tried to get into Anora's royal thong as a male mage -- don't bother -- she flat out says that no one would want a mage on the throne.

I'm currently trying to corrupt Anora as a human female noble, as I've heard it can be done on this thread. But so far, that has proven to be complete and utter dragon poop.  IF anyone has the tip or trick, share? Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?

:wub:Aya has left the building...

[echobravo]

Virtual_Van_Gogh wrote...

2.) As a male noble, you can become a prince consort to Anora, but the odd thing is (an I don't know if it's a glitch or what), after I won the game, I was referred to as her future king -- but at the end of the game "recap", they said Anora never married because she always compared all the suitors to her father,and found them all wanting... ok, WTF!?!

I am experiencing this exact same glitch. 

Has anyone been able to get the lavish wedding with Anora in the epilogue text if they personally defeated Loghain and then had Allisatir execute him?  I cannot seem to get this to work (even though Anora refers to me as her future king in the closing dialogue prior to the epilogue).  Furthermore, every time I attempt this route my journal gets bugged and the "Go to the Landsmeet" entry never gets properly removed upon completion. 

However, if I choose to have Loghain go through the joining ritual to become a Grey Warden and persuade Anora to let Allistair live, I do get the epilogue text to correctly show the lavish wedding with Anora and the Landsmeet journal entry gets properly removed on completion.

[Willowhugger]

I wish there was an option to ask for Anora to sleep with you in order to get your support.



Tawdry, but how Dragon Age-esque.

[sleepingbelow]

Er, I think it goes a little beyond tawdry. You're talking about attempting to extort sex from somebody. Maybe not extort, but something kind of icky.

On the other hand you can threaten the Desire Demon in the Fade with violence, and compel a service, and then choose sex, and that's worse.

Do you really wish that was in the game? Or do you mean, you wish you could ask for it as a villainous character and be rebuffed?

[Willowhugger]

sleepingbelow wrote...

Er, I think it goes a little beyond tawdry. You're talking about attempting to extort sex from somebody. Maybe not extort, but something kind of icky.
On the other hand you can threaten the Desire Demon in the Fade with violence, and compel a service, and then choose sex, and that's worse.
Do you really wish that was in the game? Or do you mean, you wish you could ask for it as a villainous character and be rebuffed?

Extort is different from proposition.  Extort would be to hold threat of violence or harm over it.  This would be in the realm of attempting to turn Anora into a prostitute.  Albeit, one trading potential absolute power for a night of sex.  While I would love an option for seduction of Anora, the storyline of Dragon Age was beneficial for the fact that so many dark and tawdry options existed.

Sleeping with the Warden in exchange for his support in the Landsmeet is no different than the Warden paying 40 silvers for a dwarf lass in the pearl.

[sleepingbelow]

Are you talking about a specific legal definition of extort? Because I do not believe that is what that word means. You're compelling her to have sex with you. The alternative is to be deposed. There would be negative repercussions to her not sleeping with you. Ones that are more serious than, "And now I don't have 40 silver."

[Willowhugger]

sleepingbelow wrote...

Are you talking about a specific legal definition of extort? Because I do not believe that is what that word means. You're compelling her to have sex with you. The alternative is to be deposed. There would be negative repercussions to her not sleeping with you. Ones that are more serious than, "And now I don't have 40 silver."

Given it's an issue of her own naked power lust, I'm not sure that's the case.  Queen Anora isn't going to be arrested or pressed into the tower unless she chooses to refuse to renounce her claim to the throne.  Honestly, it's still a sleazy villainous option but I'm surprised you're shocked about it.