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[Dragoonlordz]

yukon fire wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

It is not a problem with ME3 ending, sounds to me like a problem of your own making developed over time long before you even played ME3. The final 10 minutes of one game should and in my experience does not turn people off gaming unless they already had lost interest in the first place in which case it becomes an excuse to stop or hide behind. There are many greeat games out and coming out, some good and some bad but if your mindset was leaning towards breaking away from gaming in first place then no games no matter how good will change that because at that stage all your doing is looking for an excuse.

No, it's a problem with the ending. Don't presume to play armchair psychologist.
I was an avid gamer before this, so were many others. Now we're put off. Were we all looking for an excuse?

Yeah, no. Sorry. It's this ending. That's what happens when one experiences an ending where you surrender to Hitler.

Load of crap and full of hyperbole. Grow up.

So try again.

People need to stop treating gaming as an oxygen supply and treat developers with disdain and bile just because you did not enjoy their game. They create it and you chose to buy it. They never threw your mother under a bus or put a gun to your head, so treat it as should do which is a hobby, somethign to pass the time and if gain enjoyment from some titles then great if not then do something else. Stop treating it like a personal affront/offense everytime your not giddy with joy about something. Sell it and buy something else or do something else and leave the throwing toys out the pram for more important issues.

You know for some of us video games is about escapism, life sucks, we don't need our video games to remind us of this. In the five year span of Mass Effect I've lost four members of my family (Brother, Grandparents, Uncle), my Mother has become crippled, and my Parents lost their house. If Bioware thought going "dark" was in everyone's best interests, they're idiots. I've been living "dark", I was looking for a little light.  

With relation to that very silly comment highlighted; no they are not, you projected your issues onto the game world they created. The finale of the series was not going to be hills alive with sound of music and they said this time and time again. If you wanted upbeat there are a million titles that have such and you chose to ignore those. Try hello kitty next time if want happy ever after.

[Si-Shen]

To be honest, I know how the OP feels, it took me until yesterday to be able to sit down, play AND enjoy any other game I was playing. OP just needs to give it some time, much like mourning a loss, this should pass in time.

[The Angry One]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

You need to unplug yourself from the matrix, there is this amazing thing called a life outside of a game. There are limitations on how much you use a video game for escapism as always life must take precendence outside the confines out your bedroom or fictional characters.

Um. What the hell does this have to do with what I've said?
It has affected my g-a-m-i-n-g. Not my life.

I did not call them dumb, nice try princess.

Dragoonlordz can't help but facepalm everytime I come here these days and see so many dumb anti-bioware threads..


Hey here's the thing about BSN status, my dear. Anybody can see it.

I said don't use hyperbole and stop making poor excuses, a requirement to stop acting like a child and grow up due to how you reacted. It seems to me the problem is your end with myself not the other way around. You responded to me if you recall or did you forget, I stated an opinion and you launched into an offensive.

You stated something which I strongly disagreed with, projecting a state of mind onto us. I corrected you, and gave my own opinions on why this has affected me.

P.s. You user name suits you very well as all you have done is rage since the moment you saw my opinion which differs from your own.

I explained my position. You then resorted to insults and snide remarks, and you continue to do so.
Who's raging again?

Modifié par The Angry One, 21 avril 2012 - 12:42 .

[Chriagon]

DraziusA wrote...

I do understand what you're saying though - it's hard playing other games after playing the Mass Effect series.

Yeah, after completing a Bioware game, I can't be bothered to play a game from another developer for some time. It's like some kind of "Bioware hangover".

With regard to the ME3 ending, I think many fans might have a "motivation problem" with ME3 DLC, especially if it takes place before the awful ending.

[Alamar2078]

Navasha wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh silly internet drama.

This...  exactly.  

If a single game makes you want to quit gaming, then I can honestly say gaming wasn't for you in the first place. 

How many books have you ever read or movies have you seen where they were poorly written or didn't deliver the ending you wanted?    Did you give up reading other books or seeing other movies?

I don't think that I'm going to retire from gaming but ME3 did suck the will that I have to play other games out of me.  I haven't played a game in 6 weeks.

As for books and movies you can easily detach from those as it's not a big deal.  An immersive interactive medium through, if good, will get you to emotionally invest in the game / setting / etc.   Mostly because the ending comes from left field and there's virtually no warning that it is coming the effect of the disappointment is magnified.

If you don't get invested in the games then you're the one that's losing out ... [well except for ME3]

[Cyne]

Ryoten wrote...

Ever since the ending to ME3, i have not only lost my motivation for playing what was my favorite video game series.  I have pretty much lost my will to play video games in general.  This entire chain of events that has happened since March, has made me feel like i cant trust developers anymore or feel any joy over purchasing a product.  I cant even get myself to feel excited over Diablo 3 or AC3.  I never thought that a 10 minute ending could have such a negative impact on me.


Thank you Bioware.

It's just ONE GAME, one ending. It does not mean all games from this point forward will suck, that's an easy way of missing out on something that could be great. And the extended DLC could even fix ME3, so if I were you I wouldn't give up just yet.

[horacethegrey]

I think you may be overreacting a bit OP. 

Sure the ending is soul crushing, but not enough to put me off gaming. Not while I've got The Witcher 2 to enjoy currently. And I'm looking forward to other upcoming games, like Dragon's Dogma, GTA V etc.

I'm willing to give Bioware another chance  with their Extended Cut. If it works out, great. If it doesn't, I'll be diissapointed and move on to the next game that catches my interest.

[yukon fire]

There is a heck of a lot of ground between those "hills" and the crap we got. I know when a plane is going in for a landing, that is Not the time for the pilots to land somewhere else.

[Dendio1]

Ryoten wrote...

Ever since the ending to ME3, i have not only lost my motivation for playing what was my favorite video game series.  I have pretty much lost my will to play video games in general.  This entire chain of events that has happened since March, has made me feel like i cant trust developers anymore or feel any joy over purchasing a product.  I cant even get myself to feel excited over Diablo 3 or AC3.  I never thought that a 10 minute ending could have such a negative impact on me.


Thank you Bioware.

I've been playing swtor and enjoying the sith warrior storyline. Its been a blast.

[Chrillze]

The only developers I trust are CDProjekt and Valve, Blizzard also make good games

[Rudy Lis]

Does extended cut means Shepard will bleed more profusely and dies faster?

[Dragoonlordz]

The Angry One wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

You need to unplug yourself from the matrix, there is this amazing thing called a life outside of a game. There are limitations on how much you use a video game for escapism as always life must take precendence outside the confines out your bedroom or fictional characters.

Um. What the hell does this have to do with what I've said?
It has affected my g-a-m-i-n-g. Not my life.

Clearly it has because all you do all day is whine on here about it for well over a month now.

I did not call them dumb, nice try princess.

Dragoonlordz can't help but facepalm everytime I come here these days and see so many dumb anti-bioware threads..


Hey here's the thing about BSN status, my dear. Anybody can see it.

Here's the thing sweetie, you have no idea what type of threads I am talking about with my blanket comment in my status update or whether I consider this to be one of them, but thanks for taking the time to read it.

I said don't use hyperbole and stop making poor excuses, a requirement to stop acting like a child and grow up due to how you reacted. It seems to me the problem is your end with myself not the other way around. You responded to me if you recall or did you forget, I stated an opinion and you launched into an offensive.

You stated something which I strongly disagreed with, projecting a state of mind onto us. I corrected you, and gave my own opinions on why this has affected me.

P.s. You user name suits you very well as all you have done is rage since the moment you saw my opinion which differs from your own.

I explained my position. You then resorted to insults and snide remarks, and you continue to do so.
Who's raging again?

Amusing given the first insults came from you, the rage started with you, the hyperbole started with you. My first post was fairly reasonable and you blew it out of proportions I assume because you lack the emotional self control to deal with conflicting opinions. I think I will leave you there, I have no intention of sinking to your level but feel free to complain about that if wish too.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 21 avril 2012 - 12:49 .

[UniqueNickname]

I feel pretty much the same. After ME3 endings I didn't found myself a game to play. Maybe waiting until some great game comes out and catches me.

ME3 is a disappointment - why to employ the Crucible plot when you want a grimdark ending?

[yukon fire]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

It is not a problem with ME3 ending, sounds to me like a problem of your own making developed over time long before you even played ME3. The final 10 minutes of one game should and in my experience does not turn people off gaming unless they already had lost interest in the first place in which case it becomes an excuse to stop or hide behind. There are many greeat games out and coming out, some good and some bad but if your mindset was leaning towards breaking away from gaming in first place then no games no matter how good will change that because at that stage all your doing is looking for an excuse.

No, it's a problem with the ending. Don't presume to play armchair psychologist.
I was an avid gamer before this, so were many others. Now we're put off. Were we all looking for an excuse?

Yeah, no. Sorry. It's this ending. That's what happens when one experiences an ending where you surrender to Hitler.

Load of crap and full of hyperbole. Grow up.

So try again.

People need to stop treating gaming as an oxygen supply and treat developers with disdain and bile just because you did not enjoy their game. They create it and you chose to buy it. They never threw your mother under a bus or put a gun to your head, so treat it as should do which is a hobby, somethign to pass the time and if gain enjoyment from some titles then great if not then do something else. Stop treating it like a personal affront/offense everytime your not giddy with joy about something. Sell it and buy something else or do something else and leave the throwing toys out the pram for more important issues.

You know for some of us video games is about escapism, life sucks, we don't need our video games to remind us of this. In the five year span of Mass Effect I've lost four members of my family (Brother, Grandparents, Uncle), my Mother has become crippled, and my Parents lost their house. If Bioware thought going "dark" was in everyone's best interests, they're idiots. I've been living "dark", I was looking for a little light.  

With relation to that very silly comment highlighted; no they are not, you projected your issues onto the game world they created. The finale of the series was not going to be hills alive with sound of music and they said this time and time again. If you wanted upbeat there are a million titles that have such and you chose to ignore those. Try hello kitty next time if want happy ever after.

mean... really?  no logic, no reason, just total lack of empathy. How long have you been working for Bioware?  

[Alamar2078]

Chrillze wrote...

The only developers I trust are CDProjekt and Valve, Blizzard also make good games

At this point I think it's foolish to trust anyone blindly.  I think the next [standalone] game I get I'll have to wait until both fan + critial reviews are in.  If it's solid and if the game appeals to me then I'll pick it up.  I may lose out on CE content but that's life.

As for the next "series" where decisions are supposed to matter I'm waiting until the series is done THEN if I can get all the games new then I'll just buy the series and have some [virtually] guaranteed good gaming at a bargain price.

[The Angry One]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Clearly it has because all you do all day is whine on here about it for well over a month now.

Complaining about complaining is so dignified is it not?

Here's the thing sweetie, you have no idea what type of threads I am talking about with my blanket comment in my status update or whether I consider this to be one of them, but thanks for taking the time to read it.

From your tone here I imagine any thread you personally disagree with.

I said don't use hyperbole and stop making poor excuses, a requirement to stop acting like a child and grow up due to how you reacted. It seems to me the problem is your end with myself not the other way around. You responded to me if you recall or did you forget, I stated an opinion and you launched into an offensive.

If you go around calling people children for having opinions contrary to yours, you have the problem here.

Amusing given the first insults came from you, the rage started with you, the hyperbole started with you. My first post was fairly reasonable and you blew it out of proportions I assume because you lack the emotional self control to deal with conflicting opinions.

You have a very selective memory, don't you? Interesting. The only thing that "started" with me is the hyperbole, which was in fact nothing of the sort.
Did you even read the codex entry I provided? It's not hyperbole when BioWare are the ones making the allegory.
Or do you think they meant for us to think of something else when they described death camps and human slaughterhouses.

Modifié par The Angry One, 21 avril 2012 - 12:53 .

[KotorEffect3]

The Angry One wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

How many "quitters" has it been now because of just one ending?

I remain confused as to how the ending can be *that* bad to make one hate ALL games. Pretty weird.

Not sure if serious...
... or trolling.

Because it's THAT bad.
Because we spent 5 years anticipating an end to this story, and that end turned out to be one where our main character is a coward, the universe we came to love is destroyed, and the narrative comes to endorse racism and genocide.

That is not something a lot of us can easily get over.

Ok somebody is being sensationalistic

[zarnk567]

Dendio1 wrote...

Ryoten wrote...

Ever since the ending to ME3, i have not only lost my motivation for playing what was my favorite video game series.  I have pretty much lost my will to play video games in general.  This entire chain of events that has happened since March, has made me feel like i cant trust developers anymore or feel any joy over purchasing a product.  I cant even get myself to feel excited over Diablo 3 or AC3.  I never thought that a 10 minute ending could have such a negative impact on me.


Thank you Bioware.

I've been playing swtor and enjoying the sith warrior storyline. Its been a blast.

Just wait until you hit the endgame of swotor..... not so fun then.

[The Angry One]

KotorEffect3 wrote...


Ok somebody is being sensationalistic

Am I? 
Read the codex entry I put up.
Then realise that the being who implemented that method is the being you capitulate to at the end of the game.

[Dragoonlordz]

yukon fire wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

It is not a problem with ME3 ending, sounds to me like a problem of your own making developed over time long before you even played ME3. The final 10 minutes of one game should and in my experience does not turn people off gaming unless they already had lost interest in the first place in which case it becomes an excuse to stop or hide behind. There are many greeat games out and coming out, some good and some bad but if your mindset was leaning towards breaking away from gaming in first place then no games no matter how good will change that because at that stage all your doing is looking for an excuse.

No, it's a problem with the ending. Don't presume to play armchair psychologist.
I was an avid gamer before this, so were many others. Now we're put off. Were we all looking for an excuse?

Yeah, no. Sorry. It's this ending. That's what happens when one experiences an ending where you surrender to Hitler.

Load of crap and full of hyperbole. Grow up.

So try again.

People need to stop treating gaming as an oxygen supply and treat developers with disdain and bile just because you did not enjoy their game. They create it and you chose to buy it. They never threw your mother under a bus or put a gun to your head, so treat it as should do which is a hobby, somethign to pass the time and if gain enjoyment from some titles then great if not then do something else. Stop treating it like a personal affront/offense everytime your not giddy with joy about something. Sell it and buy something else or do something else and leave the throwing toys out the pram for more important issues.

You know for some of us video games is about escapism, life sucks, we don't need our video games to remind us of this. In the five year span of Mass Effect I've lost four members of my family (Brother, Grandparents, Uncle), my Mother has become crippled, and my Parents lost their house. If Bioware thought going "dark" was in everyone's best interests, they're idiots. I've been living "dark", I was looking for a little light.  

With relation to that very silly comment highlighted; no they are not, you projected your issues onto the game world they created. The finale of the series was not going to be hills alive with sound of music and they said this time and time again. If you wanted upbeat there are a million titles that have such and you chose to ignore those. Try hello kitty next time if want happy ever after.

mean... really?  no logic, no reason, just total lack of empathy. How long have you been working for Bioware?  

I am not your parent and you should not be trying to use emotional issues to counter a different opinion about a video game. I am not your caretaker, your psychiatrist or emotional blanket. I am a customer like you are of a optional recreational product. Everyone has baggage and real life issues, losing family or homes and such. It is not appropriate to use it as ammo in an argument over a video game. They never told you EVER would be a happy ever after in ME3 so it is your fault you chose to think would have such and placed so much emotional dependancy on something they never said would get. There are far more upbeat and happy titles you could of chosen to get if that was what desired from a product.

[crimzontearz]

try trusting the developers who delay their games to make them actually better as opposed to tacking on needless MP and force it on the SP crowd inoder to get the the best ending

Oh I am sorry...did I vocalize that on the bridge?

[KennyAshes]

Can someone just lock this thread? This is just starting a war between ME3 fa... errr ... ME3 playe... eerrr... people that have no idea who the other person is

[Rudy Lis]

crimzontearz wrote...

try trusting the developers who delay their games to make them actually better as opposed to tacking on needless MP and force it on the SP crowd inoder to get the the best ending

Oh I am sorry...did I vocalize that on the bridge?

Sorry, couldn't ignore that http://warhorsestudi...&entry=blog_007

[Alamar2078]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
Because we spent 5 years anticipating an end to this story, and that end turned out to be one where our main character is a coward, the universe we came to love is destroyed, and the narrative comes to endorse racism and genocide.

That is not something a lot of us can easily get over.

Ok somebody is being sensationalistic

Well the choices are between Slavery [Control], Genocide [Destroy], and Ethnocide [Synthesis].  BW even acknowledged this indirectly with the Blue armored Battarian, Red armored Geth, and Green armored Asari in the info for the MP DLC.  While they may not take it seriously I'm sure some folks do.

[Dragoonlordz]

The Angry One wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...


Ok somebody is being sensationalistic

Am I? 
Read the codex entry I put up.
Then realise that the being who implemented that method is the being you capitulate to at the end of the game.

Yes, you are. As you always do.

Hence why I said stop using hyperbole, clearly I am not the only one who saw it as such.