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[GLR-0053]

Remember people to lower expectations always expect the worst and prepare for the best/crap. That way you will at least be able to find some satisfaction in the long run.

[Rudy Lis]

Daennikus wrote...

Hang in there, man. You'll have fun again, just lower your expectations.

Just for the note - I lowered mine, can't say it helped much.

[billywaffles]

Ryoten wrote...

Ever since the ending to ME3, i have not only lost my motivation for playing what was my favorite video game series.  I have pretty much lost my will to play video games in general.  This entire chain of events that has happened since March, has made me feel like i cant trust developers anymore or feel any joy over purchasing a product.  I cant even get myself to feel excited over Diablo 3 or AC3.  I never thought that a 10 minute ending could have such a negative impact on me.


Thank you Bioware.

This is not an issue about the ending, it is about you being too attached to mass effect to seeing it end forever. Just cheer up, m8

[Doctor Uburian]

billywaffles wrote...

Ryoten wrote...

Ever since the ending to ME3, i have not only lost my motivation for playing what was my favorite video game series.  I have pretty much lost my will to play video games in general.  This entire chain of events that has happened since March, has made me feel like i cant trust developers anymore or feel any joy over purchasing a product.  I cant even get myself to feel excited over Diablo 3 or AC3.  I never thought that a 10 minute ending could have such a negative impact on me.


Thank you Bioware.

This is not an issue about the ending, it is about you being too attached to mass effect to seeing it end forever. Just cheer up, m8

Nothing ends if we keep creating our own versions of it, and we don't stop spanding it.

Modifié par Doctor Uburian, 21 avril 2012 - 02:13 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Rudy Lis wrote...

Daennikus wrote...

Hang in there, man. You'll have fun again, just lower your expectations.

Just for the note - I lowered mine, can't say it helped much.

Always room for going lower.

As the say in the Limbo dance, how low can you go?

As mentioned to you in PM's just start treating it as a way to pass time, a form of entertainment between work and relationships (life in general). It is fine to be annoyed for while or disappointed in a product but if remain in control of emotions and treat it as should be treated then that disappointment will be vastly lowered. At the same time the ones that exceed such expectations and will happen far more often if lowered, will make you more joy in the long run. Some people put their expectations so high they were never going to be achieved.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 21 avril 2012 - 02:20 .

[Daennikus]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rudy Lis wrote...

Daennikus wrote...

Hang in there, man. You'll have fun again, just lower your expectations.

Just for the note - I lowered mine, can't say it helped much.

Always room for going lower.

As the say in the Limbo dance, how low can you go?

You can also get drunk.

[Baramon]

Ryoten wrote...

Ever since the ending to ME3, i have not only lost my motivation for playing what was my favorite video game series.  I have pretty much lost my will to play video games in general.  This entire chain of events that has happened since March, has made me feel like i cant trust developers anymore or feel any joy over purchasing a product.  I cant even get myself to feel excited over Diablo 3 or AC3.  I never thought that a 10 minute ending could have such a negative impact on me.


Thank you Bioware.

It'll pass.  I too felt the same way, but it lasts different times in different folks. Take up reading. Grab a completely different game series and try that; maybe something you wouldn't normally play; you might like it. Take a breather, catch up on some movies or a TV series you've missed out on.

There are plenty of other game series out there that are almost as good as ME. (Now that ME3 has been such a major letdown, this is even truer today).  Hang in there; the desire will return. It might not seem like it now, but it will.

[CronoDragoon]

My recommendation is to play a game that doesn't focus on story so much. I played Batman: Arkham Asylum last week and had a fantastic time. Rekindled my joy of games and now I think I'm going to platinum Mass Effect 2, partly because if the EC sucks I probably won't have the motivation to platinum it after.

[frozn89]

Really?

What's with these threads? They're ridiculous. If you let a game ending affect you this much, something ain't right. What do you want? Sympathy? No wonder we're being called whiners. "Boo hoo, the ending ruined my life" Actually, it doesn't matter why these threads are being made, they accomplish nothing except making the OP's look like, well, whiners, proving the media right. Good job!

Also, if 10 minutes of a game affects you this much, I actually do feel kinda sorry for you.

[knightnblu]

I know how you feel. I have been gaming since '86 and game quality has been greatly absent lately. Mass Effect was an exception, it had interesting characters, mostly good writing, and a compelling story. As such, it was an exception to the normal drek out there. Then came the story's climax and I was in a state of disbelief. I thought that I had fouled something up along my play through. I started checking on the boards and found others that felt exactly like I did. When we began voicing our opinion, the second shoe dropped.
 
That's when the gaming industry circled the wagons and began bomb throwing at the fans. I was entitled, whiney, a cry baby, ignorant, stupid, blah, blah, blah. BioWare was silent or absent, take your pick and disappointment transitioned to outrage. I don't know who came up with that abortion at the end of ME3, but they weren't doing their job. That's just the way that I see it.
 
Casey Hudson said that there would be 16 WILDLY different endings to Mass Effect 3 instead of the three slightly differing versions we were handed. Either he lied (doubtful) or something changed (probable). When something changes that causes this much consternation, you can be sure that EA is behind that change. When your parent company puts its foot down, you have to tow the line. Do I know that for a fact? No, but the conclusion fits the facts that are known at this point.
 
When the decision was made to negate the player's choices and force him into a preconceived contrivance to conclude the story line, BioWare betrayed the fans. It really is just that simple. All along we were told that our choices would determine the story, but more importantly, that was our contribution to the franchise. Had BioWare not encouraged and promoted this we wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on. But encourage and promote it, they did.
 
To go through 2.95 games with that premise in play and then to pull the rug out from under our feet by introducing a new main plot point at the very end of the game with no warning and giving us a brand new character and the fact that Shepard just goes, "uhhh...alright" to the insane suggestions of the new character is adding insult to injury because BioWare negated their own creation. They turned Shepard from a strong willed and determined character into a passive, sacrificial lamb. Worse, BioWare is shocked and astounded that the fans are upset. Are you kidding me? How could they not see this coming?
 
Long story short, I have been where you have been. I didn't want to bother with it anymore either because of disgust. But then you remember why you were a gamer in the first place and your will to play re-awakens and you get pissed off. That's when you know that you are back in the game. Don't settle for clarity, because having a clear view of going off the rails rather than a fuzzy one isn't any better. It's worse because it highlights the errors and bad decisions. I want what Casey Hudson said we were going to get. I want my contribution to the story restored. I want BioWare to give me an ending to the story that they have told though ME1 and ME2 and that makes sense in the context of the characters. Clarity isn't going to do that.

[yukon fire]

knightnblu wrote...

I know how you feel. I have been gaming since '86 and game quality has been greatly absent lately. Mass Effect was an exception, it had interesting characters, mostly good writing, and a compelling story. As such, it was an exception to the normal drek out there. Then came the story's climax and I was in a state of disbelief. I thought that I had fouled something up along my play through. I started checking on the boards and found others that felt exactly like I did. When we began voicing our opinion, the second shoe dropped.
 
That's when the gaming industry circled the wagons and began bomb throwing at the fans. I was entitled, whiney, a cry baby, ignorant, stupid, blah, blah, blah. BioWare was silent or absent, take your pick and disappointment transitioned to outrage. I don't know who came up with that abortion at the end of ME3, but they weren't doing their job. That's just the way that I see it.
 
Casey Hudson said that there would be 16 WILDLY different endings to Mass Effect 3 instead of the three slightly differing versions we were handed. Either he lied (doubtful) or something changed (probable). When something changes that causes this much consternation, you can be sure that EA is behind that change. When your parent company puts its foot down, you have to tow the line. Do I know that for a fact? No, but the conclusion fits the facts that are known at this point.
 
When the decision was made to negate the player's choices and force him into a preconceived contrivance to conclude the story line, BioWare betrayed the fans. It really is just that simple. All along we were told that our choices would determine the story, but more importantly, that was our contribution to the franchise. Had BioWare not encouraged and promoted this we wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on. But encourage and promote it, they did.
 
To go through 2.95 games with that premise in play and then to pull the rug out from under our feet by introducing a new main plot point at the very end of the game with no warning and giving us a brand new character and the fact that Shepard just goes, "uhhh...alright" to the insane suggestions of the new character is adding insult to injury because BioWare negated their own creation. They turned Shepard from a strong willed and determined character into a passive, sacrificial lamb. Worse, BioWare is shocked and astounded that the fans are upset. Are you kidding me? How could they not see this coming?
 
Long story short, I have been where you have been. I didn't want to bother with it anymore either because of disgust. But then you remember why you were a gamer in the first place and your will to play re-awakens and you get pissed off. That's when you know that you are back in the game. Don't settle for clarity, because having a clear view of going off the rails rather than a fuzzy one isn't any better. It's worse because it highlights the errors and bad decisions. I want what Casey Hudson said we were going to get. I want my contribution to the story restored. I want BioWare to give me an ending to the story that they have told though ME1 and ME2 and that makes sense in the context of the characters. Clarity isn't going to do that.

Empathy, Reason, And Logic, Where were you three hours ago? 

[leeboi2]

Do it, let us know how it is in a couple of months...

[NeecHMonkeY]

Ryoten wrote...

Ever since the ending to ME3, i have not only lost my motivation for playing what was my favorite video game series.  I have pretty much lost my will to play video games in general.  This entire chain of events that has happened since March, has made me feel like i cant trust developers anymore or feel any joy over purchasing a product.  I cant even get myself to feel excited over Diablo 3 or AC3.  I never thought that a 10 minute ending could have such a negative impact on me.


Thank you Bioware.

Yes, I actually can empathize with this sentiment.

For me personally, I was feeling pretty 'meh' about gaming as a whole recently mostly due to Online passes, Day One DLC, Preorder bonuses, etc, etc... I've just had enough with all of that BS.

Mass Effect 3 was a single bright light that I was holding on to. ME has been my favorite game series and maybe even my favorite sci-fi/fantasy series overall and all I wanted was a game that equalled the previous two games... either with story such as in the original Mass Effect or with great characters such as ME2.

I had faith in Bioware.

All of that went out the window as soon as I started the Mars mission. I could tell something was off... the writing just wasn't as good and Shepard didn't seem like the same guy. There were some great moments such as Tuchanka, Rannoch and a couple of character interactions here and there but overall, it just wasn't a Mass Effect game... and all of this before I had even gotten to those final 10mins. This is also why I don't care that much about the Extended Ending DLC. I'll check it out but for me, the problems in ME3 run a whole lot deeper than those final 10 minutes.

Maybe my expectations were in the wrong place but it was Bioware that set them there when they developed and released Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 - how could I not be expecting a finale to the series that at least matched the previous 2 installments?

There's a coupld of games I'm curious about this year but nothing that I'm truly excited for... I had that excitement for ME3 and now that's just a dark void. EA and Bioware teamed up to kill that part of me with the train wreck that is the anti-climax to Shepard's journey.

I know Bioware doesn't give 2 ****s about me personally... but you'd think they would at least care about the characters they created themselves.

[BrookerT]

Why are there so many of these threads, and the goodbye threads. It's like attention seeking. For a start, why post here on BSN, posting on the forum for the company that made the game that depressed you will only make you fell worse,and what did you honestly hope to gain by posting this?
Someone to go "well done, you dislike gaming because of the ending of a video game, you deserve a medal?" These spamming threads are really starting to get annoying now..

[MAXinsanity409]

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[XyleJKH]

I disagree with most the things neechmonkey says. The ending and a few things in the game sucked.

[XyleJKH]

PS how could they not awe the uproar coming? Because they have proved that they are idiots... No other way to explain it. They lost touch with their fan base. And ban people for protesting
At least now I know I won't buy another BioWare product until they fix the ending. We don't want clarity, we want something that makes sense

[omntt]

Diablo 3, AC3

OP you should try something else then mainstream games. I don't know your preferences so I can't help you, but even in this gaming generations there are way better hidden gems then the games you talk about, without talking about retro gaming. Personally I enjoy games with high replayability and good, fast action, interesting storytelling or original/well developed gameplay and no, diablo and ac are not in the list. Honestly mass effect was the only killer app I played during those last 2-3 years (I don't think portal 2 can be considered one), and we all knew how things went downhill.

[Dragoonlordz]

XyleJKH wrote...

PS how could they not awe the uproar coming? Because they have proved that they are idiots... No other way to explain it. They lost touch with their fan base. And ban people for protesting
At least now I know I won't buy another BioWare product until they fix the ending. We don't want clarity, we want something that makes sense

Calling them idiots is not the smartest move to do on their forums.

[GLR-0053]

XyleJKH wrote...

I disagree with most the things neechmonkey says. The ending and a few things in the game sucked.

The Fetch Quest.
Codex acting as a journal which doesn't keep track of your progress at all.
Multiplayer requred to get the "best" ending.

Is that it? Sounds about right.

[Harorrd]

I am also drepressed after having these emotional attachment to the serries, it felt like i´ve lost a good friend. The good thing is that i´ve reduced my gaming hours from 6 to 3 ever sence the ending :/

[DJBare]

omntt wrote...

Diablo 3, AC3

OP you should try something else then mainstream games.

This, I found I'm having difficulty getting back into any of my RPG's, but no problem with other game types such as pool, chess, golf and so on, it's just story type games that's giving me issues at the moment.

I believe Bioware has found a potent formula in this games ending, attack your fans with depression, and looking at the various websites and forum's it's been pretty effective.

[Complistic]

you should try The Witcher 2 (which just came out for xbox) before you give up.