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[Jpherb]

When I first started DA2, I didn't like it, because of the graphics. Now, I actually like it better then DAO. Having played both DAO and DA2 a minimum of a dozen times each, I would like to share my wishes for DA3.

Feel free to add comments, but don't be rude about it. Thanks:)

1. I would like to see the Hero of Ferelden and Hawke team up
2.All characters except Merril return. I know that's just a personal opinion, but she's really the only character I don't like
3. I like that my character can speak in DA2, although the comments for sarcasm are pretty lame
4. Fighting style of DA2
5. Graphics,  depth of story (although I really do like the storyline of DA2 as well) and conversation choices of DAO
6. Ability tp be an elf or dwarf
7. Choices made in DAO and DA2 affect story in DA3 (i.e keep love interest)
8. More plot twists
9. DA2 crafting
10. DA2 "wardrobe"

I'm sure I've forgotten something. Just some thoughts

Modifié par Jpherb, 21 avril 2012 - 03:07 .

[Jpherb]

By characters I meant companions

Also, what about going to Orlais?

[Emzamination]

I want to see morrigan and her one true love, Mr warden reunited either in life or death via the fade.

I do not want to see bioware pull another houdini like they did with leliana and bring Alistair back in any form of my royal play through.

[Jpherb]

Oh yeah. Morrigan is must!

[Maria Caliban]

I'd like Morrigan to show up. When you question her about a romanced Wardern, she say something like, "I dumped him AGAIN. After he showed up at the Eluvian, I knew he was the clingy type, so now he's stuck on the other side."

[Dakota Strider]

"You are literally the worst person on these forums right now."

Modifié par Dakota Strider, 22 avril 2012 - 01:27 .

[Allan Schumacher]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd like Morrigan to show up. When you question her about a romanced Wardern, she say something like, "I dumped him AGAIN. After he showed up at the Eluvian, I knew he was the clingy type, so now he's stuck on the other side."

I'm all for stuff like this but I'm not sure as many others would be

[Jadebaby]

Jpherb wrote...

1. I would like to see the Hero of Ferelden and Hawke team up
2.All characters except Merril return. I know that's just a personal opinion, but she's really the only character I don't like
3. I like that my character can speak in DA2, although the comments for sarcasm are pretty lame
4. Fighting style of DA2
5. Graphics,  depth of story (although I really do like the storyline of DA2 as well) and conversation choices of DAO
6. Ability tp be an elf or dwarf
7. Choices made in DAO and DA2 affect story in DA3 (i.e keep love interest)
8. More plot twists
9. DA2 crafting
10. DA2 "wardrobe"

1. That would be cool. If you're not playing as the Hero of Feralden it would be interesting to see if they give him/her a voice. But I'm thinking it'd be hard to incorporate them both with how you looked and race etc.
2. Eh, she grew on me.
3. I think they should keep this too, it's much more immersive than not hearing your character.
4. Yes, but they need more than just 6 hotkey attacks for Xbox360.
5. Conversation choices of DAO with a yes to number 3 will be a lot of work...... But that would be cool, thinking about it a bit more, it would be better if they dropped the wagon wheel dialog and just made it list form like DAO but with a VA. Depth of story yes, and tie more into DAO than DA2 did.
6. Very hard if you want both 3 and 5. More voice acting.
7. I guess if you play as the Hero of Ferelden or Hawke then the L.I would matter =/ . But yes, choices made would be good. Maybe Anders rocks up on the run if he survives.
8. Yes.
9. Yes. But could be improved on some.
10. Yes, but improved on, if you saw their presentation at PAX, the costuming looks pretty good.

And I agree that DA2 grew on me, what fascinates me is how advanced the dialog can be each time you play it, somehow Hawke always ends up answering a question differently even when I know I've picked that same response before and heard something different. I just love the Voiced protaganist, so glad they changed it!

11. A Mirror of Transformation already in the game...
12. Make the enemy health bars less obvious. Maybe vertically next to their heads....

[Ponendus]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd like Morrigan to show up. When you question her about a romanced Wardern, she say something like, "I dumped him AGAIN. After he showed up at the Eluvian, I knew he was the clingy type, so now he's stuck on the other side."

That's probably more inkeeping with her character than any suggestion I've heard so far.

[Weskerr]

Ponendus wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd like Morrigan to show up. When you question her about a romanced Wardern, she say something like, "I dumped him AGAIN. After he showed up at the Eluvian, I knew he was the clingy type, so now he's stuck on the other side."

That's probably more inkeeping with her character than any suggestion I've heard so far.

I don't think so. If you romance her, she adores you. She's also not so superficial as to dump you for such a petty reason.

[Weskerr]

Jpherb wrote...

Oh yeah. Morrigan is must!

I agree. DA:O wouldn't even be half as fun and interesting if she weren't a character. As long as the original writer of her character writes her for DA3, she could only make the game better.

[Weskerr]

Jpherb wrote...

When I first started DA2, I didn't like it, because of the graphics. Now, I actually like it better then DAO. Having played both DAO and DA2 a minimum of a dozen times each, I would like to share my wishes for DA3.

Feel free to add comments, but don't be rude about it. Thanks:)

1. I would like to see the Hero of Ferelden and Hawke team up
2.All characters except Merril return. I know that's just a personal opinion, but she's really the only character I don't like
3. I like that my character can speak in DA2, although the comments for sarcasm are pretty lame
4. Fighting style of DA2
5. Graphics,  depth of story (although I really do like the storyline of DA2 as well) and conversation choices of DAO
6. Ability tp be an elf or dwarf
7. Choices made in DAO and DA2 affect story in DA3 (i.e keep love interest)
8. More plot twists
9. DA2 crafting
10. DA2 "wardrobe"

I'm sure I've forgotten something. Just some thoughts

1. That would be cool if it were done well.
2. Nothing wrong with Merril as far as I'm concerned.
3. The voiced PC dialogue was more good than bad. The PC actually feels like a character, especially with well written dialogue and a good voice actor. It limits dialogue options though because the more the PC says, the more expensive his dialogue becomes. I also dislike the dialogue wheel. Dialogue options should be randomized in terms of their position on the screen.
4. The fighting needs to be slowed down a bit. It was too fast and unrealistic in DA2. In DA:O, it was too slow. The right combat pace is somewhere between the two.
5. I liked the story in DA2. It was a welcome change of theme from Good vs. Evil to Human struggle vs. Human struggle. I would like the focus to remain on Templar vs. Mage, but expanded on to include the more worldly theme of freedom vs. safety and the natural rights of human beings.
6. I would like this too, but I don't think it's realistic. The barrier is money and time.
7. This isn't something I find important in Dragon Age. They can probably accomplish this in some minor way, but this isn't the Mass Effect franchise (even Mass Effect couldn't get it entirely right).
8. Having more plot twists doesn't necessarily make a better story. They don't even have a correlation.  All I want is a well written story that is interesting and engaging. How they accomplish that is not important.
9. I'm indifferent.
10. Same as above.

Modifié par Weskerr, 22 avril 2012 - 10:11 .

[LegendaryBlade]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd like Morrigan to show up. When you question her about a romanced Wardern, she say something like, "I dumped him AGAIN. After he showed up at the Eluvian, I knew he was the clingy type, so now he's stuck on the other side."

I'm all for stuff like this but I'm not sure as many others would be

All that would do is have a lot of people booting up their saves and stabbing her in the stomach when they got the chance.

And probably a big forum backlash

[Maria Caliban]

I'm always disturbed when people talk about killing their LI because of some perceived slight. I've heard this about Morrigan, Jacob, and the two Vurmire Survivors.

Not about Liara from her fans though.

[Brockololly]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'm always disturbed when people talk about killing their LI because of some perceived slight. I've heard this about Morrigan, Jacob, and the two Vurmire Survivors.

Not about Liara from her fans though.

Well, with Morrigan, we still have zero clue as to what her plans are. Some Wardens that romanced her may have gone through the Eluvian to keep an eye on her so that if she gets in over her head with whatever she's planning or it backfires or it turns out to be something awful, they could still stop her or kill her if need be, despite being romantically involved.

Killing Morrigan would have more to do with whatever her plot role ends up as. Jacob, the Virmire Survivors and Liara barely have any major plot role as significant as somebody like Morrigan or Alistair or Anders. Most of the people that shanked Morrigan in Witch Hunt weren't romancing her, but just hated her from the onset in Origins or didn't trust her.

And no, I really don't want to see Morrigan in DA3 unless they're going to take time and do that plot thread right with meaningful consequences from the Warden's actions with her and not handwavey BS, "Oh, a giant rock fell on the Warden when he went into the Eluvian!" or "Oh, he instagibbed when he went into the Eluvian!" or "Oh, he died from the Taint when he went into the Eluvian!" or "Oh, he's stuck unclogging the toilet back in the Eluvian!" or "Oh, I dumped him and left him in the Eluvian!"


Meh....thats the easy way out, especially when the end of Witch Hunt frames the choice of the Warden going with Morrigan as one where they'll be facing the future together.

Otherwise, I'd rather just not see Morrigan in DA3, especially if they're using the DA2 facemorph system. Cause...yeah, Barfiggan disapproves:

Modifié par Brockololly, 22 avril 2012 - 02:22 .

[Dakota Strider]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd like Morrigan to show up. When you question her about a romanced Wardern, she say something like, "I dumped him AGAIN. After he showed up at the Eluvian, I knew he was the clingy type, so now he's stuck on the other side."

I'm all for stuff like this but I'm not sure as many others would be

All that would do is have a lot of people booting up their saves and stabbing her in the stomach when they got the chance.

And probably a big forum backlash

If Bioware were to do something like that, I would probably finish playing the current game.  Then I would uninstall it..  I would not go back and replay killing Morrigan.  I would just consider DA3 as trash, and not consistant with the story that I played through in DAO.  And I would never pay more than bargain bin price for a game from Bioware again, until they replaced each and every writer and developer that made that decision to treat their once loyal customer base that way.

Modifié par Dakota Strider, 22 avril 2012 - 02:27 .

[nightcobra]

Jpherb wrote...

When I first started DA2, I didn't like it, because of the graphics. Now, I actually like it better then DAO. Having played both DAO and DA2 a minimum of a dozen times each, I would like to share my wishes for DA3.

Feel free to add comments, but don't be rude about it. Thanks:)

1. I would like to see the Hero of Ferelden and Hawke team up
2.All characters except Merril return. I know that's just a personal opinion, but she's really the only character I don't like
3. I like that my character can speak in DA2, although the comments for sarcasm are pretty lame
4. Fighting style of DA2
5. Graphics,  depth of story (although I really do like the storyline of DA2 as well) and conversation choices of DAO
6. Ability tp be an elf or dwarf
7. Choices made in DAO and DA2 affect story in DA3 (i.e keep love interest)
8. More plot twists
9. DA2 crafting
10. DA2 "wardrobe"

I'm sure I've forgotten something. Just some thoughts

agree with 5,6 and 7. the rest is...it's not that i totally disagree with them, more that i'm more on the fence and need more discussion on them.

anyway here's my list 


1-about character "origin" and thoughts on the main character class/leveling system:

let's see if i can explain myself clearly...remember fenris? his lyrium marks were basically what enabled magic use in him. now consider this...it could be possible for something similar to happen to your character.
in DA1 you went through the joining to become a grey warden, what if at the end of DA3's prologue you undergo a experiment/ritual or something that makes you a mana battery much like how gems could make shale one.
this is just an idea however so i don't expect bioware to actually go through with something like this. 

also, we know that the chantry uses lyrium to make templars, templars use a kind of magic to combat mages that much we already know.
how about if the chantry is trying to come up with the next iteration of templar due to the now total war between mages/templars and you're kidnapped and used as a lab rat.
would you still forgive the ones who did this to you (if the ones responsible only did this to protect the people from what they think is the menace of mages) or would you rebel agaisnt them and join the mages cause, or do you use these new found powers for your personal gain, or even yet do you refuse to use them if you find the notion of magic abhorrent?

just a few things out the top of my head.  

like i said some people won't like due to this making the PC a "special snowflake" but i kinda like these kind of characters like i like the grey wardens, spirit monks, etc.
also in my theory it's possible you wouldn't be the only one, just one of the first:wizard:


gameplay wise - basically a reversed funnel type of class choice for the player character (has magic potential but can choose to train as a warrior or rogue while supressing the innate magic talent or using it to improve the other 2 classes or maybe just concentrating on the mage aspect. the party members would be one of the 3 classes like in previous DA games.

imagine kingdom's of amalur leveling system and you get pretty much the gist of what i'm talking about.
you could pick abilities from the 3 trees (warrior/rogue/mage) and depending on how much points you put into the trees you could then select a specialization tree:

true warrior 
true mage
true rogue
warrior/rogue hybrid
warrior/mage hybrid
mage/rogue hybrid
jack of all trades 
 


2- my thoughts on level design:

some dungeons ala final fantasy 6 would be nice, where you could split your party into 2 or more groups to clear the dungeon, disabling traps, opening doors or dispelling seals to aid your other party to go on through and vice versa. 

also more color and variety between environments, final fantasy 12 felt huge even though it was made up of small to fairly large areas interconnected, and as aesthetics go i love the color use in games like enslaved and lighting like in trine 2.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 22 avril 2012 - 03:31 .

[Who is that Masked Man]

I don't see much point in upsetting ourselves/one another about obnoxious things that Bioware "might" do in DA3. At the very least, isn't there already a "What's the worst thing Bioware could do in DA3" thread for that kind of talk?

As for the original point of this thread,

1) I'd like to see a Warden/Hawke meet-and-greet too, but I doubt we'll get one, given that we've already been told that neither of them will be playable. If we do see either former PC again, I hope we can at least "play" them in the sense of choosing their dialogue in any cutscenes they are involved in.

2) I'm 100% in support of cameos, but I'd only like to see characters return if their return makes sense and means something. If they tried to have every single character have a cameo, none of the cameo characters would get adequate screen time.

Little background references might be cool, though. Like if, among other random pictures on the wall in some NPC's house, there was a painting of Oghren locked in epic battle with the schleets.

3) I originally preferred silent PCs, but I've come to appreciate voiced ones. I just hope that system is refined for DA3 to allow more choices for role-playing.

4) I'm currently replaying DAO. Seeing the "shuffle" again makes me appreciate DA2 combat animations more, though I don't miss the massive hordes of mooks with tiny life bars dropping out of the sky. I'm hoping there's a nicer balance between the two... maybe like DAO combat sped up just a little and with better animations.

5) Yes, but better graphics would be much appreciated.

6) Yes.

7) My goodness, yes.

8) Preferably plot twists that make sense and don't come completely out of nowhere. Also, I'd like to see some of the dangling plot threads cleared up before we start getting even more new mysteries and cliffhangers.

9) I did like it better than DAO crafting.

10) I like the direction they seem to be going in for customizing even "iconic" NPC outfits.

Modifié par Who is that Masked Man, 22 avril 2012 - 03:51 .

[Jpherb]

I agree, Who is that Masked Man. I realize I am in the minority here, and many disagree. I just thought this would be a fun topic, and mostly just discussing the positives of each game. I was also interested to see how many had the same views.

Those that pick apart every little flaw of this game are like those that go to a movie and point out every flaw rather than just enjoying the movie.

[Emzamination]

Better Mage robes with hoods that cover your eyes!

[David Gaider]

Dakota Strider wrote...
If Bioware were to do something like that, I would probably finish playing the current game.  Then I would uninstall it..  I would not go back and replay killing Morrigan.  I would just consider DA3 as trash, and not consistant with the story that I played through in DAO.  And I would never pay more than bargain bin price for a game from Bioware again, until they replaced each and every writer and developer that made that decision to treat their once loyal customer base that way.

Now you're just tempting me.

[Brockololly]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...
Just out of curiousity: to do what exactly ?

Pull a complete GOTCHA! moment for all Wardens that went into the Eluvian with Morrigan as Maria insinuated here:

Maria Caliban wrote...
I'd like Morrigan to show up. When  you question her about a romanced Wardern, she say something like, "I  dumped him AGAIN. After he showed up at the Eluvian, I knew he was the  clingy type, so now he's stuck on the other side."

Modifié par Brockololly, 23 avril 2012 - 04:06 .

[nightcobra]

then people would ask for a mission to rescue the warden

[Jpherb]

Who is that Masked Man wrote...

4) I'm currently replaying DAO. Seeing the "shuffle" again makes me appreciate DA2 combat animations more, though I don't miss the massive hordes of mooks with tiny life bars dropping out of the sky. I'm hoping there's a nicer balance between the two... maybe like DAO combat sped up just a little and with better animations.

10) I like the direction they seem to be going in for customizing even "iconic" NPC outfits

I really like the idea of something in between. I just enjoyed the really neat moves they got to do in DA2. For wardrobe, I liked that we didn't have to lug around all the armor that you did in DAO.

* Morrigan can always do a "Flemeth" ...

Modifié par Jpherb, 23 avril 2012 - 06:09 .