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Dream sequences - did anyone else feel nothing?


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I agree, that kid looks too damn smug. Unless you're Thich Quang Duc, being utterly serene while burning to death is not what your reaction would be.

And why is pseudo-Shepard so happy as well? Our Shepard looks completely freaked out at this!

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OldSwede wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Doesn't anyone else notice the mocking look on the boys face in the last dream sequence, if you dream that someone is burning then your brain tells you they are in pain and portrays it as such.


I actually missed that part. Oh noes! Don't tell me I have to play this awful game once again! LOL
(it's the second time someone has got me curious now. I also "have to" check out the stalking doctor/nurse)



I'll save you some time http://www.youtube.c...p5BBym1M0#t=63s

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Well, mixed feelings. Some voices of the dead were touching - Mordin, Wrex, Padok Wiks, Kelly (she sounded so innocent it was really sad), Legion.
Kid and Kaidan, not at all. I did feel sorry about kid when Reaper shot him down. But not when he began to chase me in nightmares. Also felt forced when Liara asked about dead friends and Kaidan was the only choice. I don't give a damn about Alenka. Why not to choose Pressley or someone else.

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The nightmares should have been done with things that Shepard have done/experienced in the past games and have real reasons to haunt him, like choosing one of his/her crewmates to die in Virmire (I'm aware that we heard some whispers about this on the dreams). The hole "kid that I just saw die now haunts my dreams" makes no sense for a person with so much more traumatic events in life like Shepard, specially if you are a colonist/lone survivor who have endure much worse things.

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DJBare wrote...

Doesn't anyone else notice the mocking look on the boys face in the last dream sequence, if you dream that someone is burning then your brain tells you they are in pain and portrays it as such.


That's a very good point. Spontaneous Combustion Boy does look completely unconcerned about the situation. Like it's just a thing that happens to him from time to time.

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Sifr1449 wrote...

I agree, that kid looks too damn smug. Unless you're Thich Quang Duc, being utterly serene while burning to death is not what your reaction would be.

And why is pseudo-Shepard so happy as well? Our Shepard looks completely freaked out at this!


I took it as Shepard's own subconscious screaming "Beware, something is off. This will cause your destruction."

Anyway, I didn't care for the kid either. I didn't enjoy watching him die, of course. But I didn't feel attached. Shepard has seen so many people die - people that were his friends, that he actually knew - that I don't see him havig a strong emotional reaction over a random kid's death.

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The dreams were set up in such a way as to reinforce that the Reapers were evil (which we should have got by this point, 2 games in and all), and to feel bad that the kid died. But I didn't know the kid, and he refused to be helped, so why should I feel bad?

Not to mention how the end basically invalidates the dreams by saying that Reapers are actually a force for good (completely contradicting EVERYTHING up to that point).

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It's like when you hear on the news that a child has been killed in a car crash. It's not a nice thing to happen but I feel no emotional connection to the situation besides a basic level of empathy. It makes no sense that, out of everything that Shepard has been through, this would be the event that starts to haunt him/her.

Modifié par FridgeRaider88, 22 avril 2012 - 11:36 .


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I felt rage and disappointment. Dreams? Shepard being traumatized thanks to a f****ing child I don't care about? Bioware really screwed up.

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Dream sequences I interpreted as indoctrination. I don't care if that's not what Bioware intended, it's an artistic piece without explanation, so I can give it whatever interpretation I want :P

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I too felt the dream sequences had nothing. I felt nothing toward the child other than annoyance that he was interrupting my game play. Imagine how annoyed I was when I found out he was a space wizard. Really felt out of place. Whilst I don't believe in the indoctrination theory I can see how the weirdness of the moments can hint at that.

I wish I could skip the scenes but I am sure that too would be a breach of artistic integrity.

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I thought the kid was an idiot and felt nothing when he died. I had ZERO attachment for that character so my Shep should have had zero as well. It would have fit with my choices in the previous games as well.

The kid was a poor attempt to create emotion but it failed because it was trying too hard. The dreams are overkill.

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I'd be lying if I said I felt nothing during the dream sequences. I can honestly say they moved me.

They moved me with irritation at being forced into another random cutscene instead of being out there doing things, and it moved me with frustration at how slow Shepard was running.

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I liked the dream sequences. The death of the child had no impact on me, but they did on Shepard, which is why I found it so interesting. It thought it revealed more about Shepard's state of mind, than if he had dreamed about Kaidan/Ashley. He SHOULD have been mourning over the loss of his friends, but instead he was irrationally affected by the death of a complete stranger. It was a glimpse at the fragility of Shepard and a reminder that as an icon of humanity, he has both the strength and weaknesses of being human.

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I liked them actually. They felt eerie and haunting, and reminded me of that Normandy scene right at the start of ME2. They also humanized Shepard a little bit. He/She is not such an unfeeling, robotic character after all, who goes from mission to mission, killing people left and right, and feeling nothing. He remembers what happens, and is even, to an extent, traumatized. Of course, they would have been a lot better if they focused on memorable characters such as Mordin instead of Star child.

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The dreams aren't that emotional for most people who had saved nearly everyone they ever met.

Try a playthrough of all the games where almost everyone has been killed. THEN experience those dreams.

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The dream sequences were boring and felt like they had zero impact on Shepard. I didn't even understand why they would.

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Navasha wrote...

The dreams aren't that emotional for most people who had saved nearly everyone they ever met.

Try a playthrough of all the games where almost everyone has been killed. THEN experience those dreams.


I'd quite like to see some. Are there any videos online?

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The whispers in the background of lost crew members were pretty cool. Some of those got to me.




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The dreams attempted to make me care for the kid, rather than the friends that have sacrificed their lives for a cause and you know allot more about.

Could have been better if there was more emphasis on characters you know well i.e. Pressly, Ash/Kaiden, the ME2 squad mates in more than just a faint voice.

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the people burning should have been the friends that died during the game. would have had a better impact then the kid that we only had maybe 2 or 3 lines of dialog.

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If they would have given me a flamethrower, I would have burned him myself.

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PoisonMushroom wrote...

Navasha wrote...

The dreams aren't that emotional for most people who had saved nearly everyone they ever met.

Try a playthrough of all the games where almost everyone has been killed. THEN experience those dreams.


I'd quite like to see some. Are there any videos online?



 

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--- ack ninjad --

Modifié par Navasha, 22 avril 2012 - 02:18 .


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PoisonMushroom

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PencilManners wrote...

The dreams attempted to make me care for the kid, rather than the friends that have sacrificed their lives for a cause and you know allot more about.

Could have been better if there was more emphasis on characters you know well i.e. Pressly, Ash/Kaiden, the ME2 squad mates in more than just a faint voice.


I interpreted this completely differently. We knew too little about the kid to ever really care for him. This was all about Shepard, and how we were supposed to care about him/her. The kid is just a face for the faceless innocents back on Earth.