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#101
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Ooooh let me count the ways...

I'm big on girls that are demure, submissive and a bit passive, but still intelligent and very passionate about the few specific things they are passionate about, rather typical bookish nerd girls.

Add to that a vulnerability, a woman who may not actively require you to hold her damn hand to get anywhere, but really appreciates it when you do support her - and when you just take her hand in yours to show you're there. She doesn't need me to make her stronger, but she's happier with me there for her.

She's very awkward and vulnerable in ME1 and, if you romance her there and continue it into ME2 LotSB and ME3, it becomes very apparent how her overt strength in those games is mostly necessity and her sweet heart is still inside there, you just need to stay close to allow her to let you back inside. It's a romance I find both realistic and idealistically heartwarming where it's all about the idea of true love where the only reason you need your partner is because you've chosen to depend on them.

Add to all that, she has a beautiful voice, nice personality and she's blue, that's 9 reasons why I think Liara is great and ahead of every other LI including Kaidan, Garrus and Tali by astronomical amounts.

Wait, no, 10;

Singularity.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

The problem with Liara is that she is forced Shepard as a friend...


No more than Garrus or Joker.

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I like her just to spite the OP.

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Seboist wrote...

Pedo bait and lesbian romance are the key "appeals" of Liara's multiple characters.


Fixed that for you ;). I'll never understand people attracted to that "hey, I'm barely legal!" crap.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The problem with Liara is that she is forced Shepard as a friend...


No more than Garrus or Joker.


Those are problematic as well, but neither Garrus and Joker are as important as ****ing Liara.

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Cadence of the Planes wrote...

The Milky Waver wrote...

I just don't get why some people like Liara so much. In my opinion, she feels too forced onto the players and the game makes her seem so important, and that you should like her because of all of the bonding moments you have with her. But that's just my opinion. 

So Liara fans, why DO you like Liara so damn much?


She is blue


..da-ba-dee-da-ba-di.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The problem with Liara is that she is forced Shepard as a friend...


No more than Garrus or Joker.


Those are problematic as well, but neither Garrus and Joker are as important as ****ing Liara.


Yes, having Liara help Shepard with what she knows is incredibly insulting to you, isn't it?

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

The problem with Liara is that she is forced Shepard as a friend...


Ya, I totoally agree. I hate it how Kaiden is forced to not be my friend and distrust me, and how Harbinger is trying to kill me. It's so forced. Why couldn't he just be my friend. It has nothing to do with their character and personality. Every relationship should be exactly like Liara.

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Theodoro wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The problem with Liara is that she is forced Shepard as a friend...


No more than Garrus or Joker.


Those are problematic as well, but neither Garrus and Joker are as important as ****ing Liara.


Yes, having Liara help Shepard with what she knows is incredibly insulting to you, isn't it?


Yes but can she please stop coming into my room when Shepard is sleeping. I get the feeling she wants to do more than talk when I am there.

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Neria Rose wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Pedo bait and lesbian romance are the key "appeals" of Liara's multiple characters.


Fixed that for you ;). I'll never understand people attracted to that "hey, I'm barely legal!" crap.


Liara's youth is another aspect of her character that gets greatly exaggerated by her detractors on the BSN. She is 106 years old in Mass Effect 1, and Samara indicates that Morinth reached adulthood in her 40s. But even if we didn't know when Asari reach adulthood, Liara had a doctorate and was working as an archaeologist. How many children are university educated and employed as scientists?

It is hard to say exactly what the human equivalent of 106 Asari years is, but it is obviously a young adult.

In fact out of all the romance options Tali was arguably the youngest. Obviously Liara was older in terms of years, but I also think she was older in terms of life stage. Tali had just left home in ME1 (making her the equivalent of a human at 18 or 19), whereas Liara had been independent for a number of years.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 22 avril 2012 - 11:46 .


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Neria Rose wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Pedo bait and lesbian romance are the key "appeals" of Liara's multiple characters.


Fixed that for you ;). I'll never understand people attracted to that "hey, I'm barely legal!" crap.


Yup,her childlike persona and obsessiveness were unsettling in ME1, not as bad as Merril but still.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Neria Rose wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Pedo bait and lesbian romance are the key "appeals" of Liara's multiple characters.


Fixed that for you ;). I'll never understand people attracted to that "hey, I'm barely legal!" crap.


Liara's youth is another aspect of her character that gets greatly exaggerated by her detractors on the BSN. She is 106 years old in Mass Effect 1, and Samara indicates that Morinth reached adulthood in her 40s. But even if we didn't know when Asari reach adulthood, Liara had a doctorate and was working as an archaeologist. How many children are university educated and employed as scientists?

It is hard to say exactly what the human equivalent of 106 Asari years is, but it is obviously a young adult.


Her not even grasping the concept of humor (just lol) in ME1 is a perfect example of how she's an overgrown child and how she's the kind of character that a basement dweller with little to no interaction with women would write.

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Question: What is so great about Liara?

Answer: she wasn't space-racist Ashley!

my choice on virmire was very easy. :)

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Seboist wrote...

Neria Rose wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Pedo bait and lesbian romance are the key "appeals" of Liara's multiple characters.


Fixed that for you ;). I'll never understand people attracted to that "hey, I'm barely legal!" crap.


Yup,her childlike persona and obsessiveness were unsettling in ME1, not as bad as Merril but still.


Yeah, Merrill was pretty damn bad. She was cute as a friend (believe it or not, I could handle her on that level) but the idea of romancing her just makes me want to vomit.

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The absolute best thing about Liara is that she is able to post character-related threads in the character and romance forum where they belong.

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Tali is the Merrill of Mass Effect, IMO.

Though to be fair Liara had some of that same shy and awkward vibe in ME1. When Tali became the shy and awkward geek romance in ME2, Liara was made a bit more mature. The intent was probably just so they wouldn't be the same character with different skins, but I think it worked out in Liara's favor. I like her a lot better after she is an information broker.

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Neria Rose wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Neria Rose wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Pedo bait and lesbian romance are the key "appeals" of Liara's multiple characters.


Fixed that for you ;). I'll never understand people attracted to that "hey, I'm barely legal!" crap.


Yup,her childlike persona and obsessiveness were unsettling in ME1, not as bad as Merril but still.


Yeah, Merrill was pretty damn bad. She was cute as a friend (believe it or not, I could handle her on that level) but the idea of romancing her just makes me want to vomit.


Not like there was any good romance in DA2. They are all ****.



Han Shot First wrote...

Tali is the Merrill of Mass Effect, IMO.

Though to be fair Liara had some of that same shy and awkward vibe in ME1. When Tali became the shy and awkward geek romance in ME2, Liara was made a bit more mature. The intent was probably just so they wouldn't be the same character with different skins, but I think it worked out in Liara's favor. I like her a lot better after she is an information broker.



Yep same.

Modifié par Imperium Alpha, 22 avril 2012 - 11:56 .


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Han Shot First wrote...

Liara's youth is another aspect of her character that gets greatly exaggerated by her detractors on the BSN. She is 106 years old in Mass Effect 1, and Samara indicates that Morinth reached adulthood in her 40s. But even if we didn't know when Asari reach adulthood, Liara had a doctorate and was working as an archaeologist. How many children are university educated and employed as scientists?

It is hard to say exactly what the human equivalent of 106 Asari years is, but it is obviously a young adult.

In fact out of all the romance options Tali was arguably the youngest. Obviously Liara was older in terms of years, but I also think she was older in terms of life stage. Tali had just left home in ME1 (making her the equivalent of a human at 18 or 19), whereas Liara had been independent for a number of years.


She specifically states "barely more than a child" (or maybe 'hardly', don't remember, not willing to subject myself to her voice to find out). So barely/hardly an adult. Seriously, disgusts me to a degree that I cannot accurately describe.

My husband's grandfather was taking care of his siblings at 14 years of age (working full time, though he had to lie about his age) following his parents' deaths, extreme case but it happened. He was independent, but it doesn't mean he was suddenly catapulted to being an adult mentally and physically.

Modifié par Neria Rose, 22 avril 2012 - 11:59 .


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Seboist wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Neria Rose wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Pedo bait and lesbian romance are the key "appeals" of Liara's multiple characters.


Fixed that for you ;). I'll never understand people attracted to that "hey, I'm barely legal!" crap.


Liara's youth is another aspect of her character that gets greatly exaggerated by her detractors on the BSN. She is 106 years old in Mass Effect 1, and Samara indicates that Morinth reached adulthood in her 40s. But even if we didn't know when Asari reach adulthood, Liara had a doctorate and was working as an archaeologist. How many children are university educated and employed as scientists?

It is hard to say exactly what the human equivalent of 106 Asari years is, but it is obviously a young adult.


Her not even grasping the concept of humor (just lol) in ME1 is a perfect example of how she's an overgrown child and how she's the kind of character that a basement dweller with little to no interaction with women would write.


Still, she's a hundred times better than this vindictive little girl that hopes the reapers kill you. The mission would likely fail in the process. www.youtube.com/watch

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Neria Rose wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Neria Rose wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Pedo bait and lesbian romance are the key "appeals" of Liara's multiple characters.


Fixed that for you ;). I'll never understand people attracted to that "hey, I'm barely legal!" crap.


Yup,her childlike persona and obsessiveness were unsettling in ME1, not as bad as Merril but still.


Yeah, Merrill was pretty damn bad. She was cute as a friend (believe it or not, I could handle her on that level) but the idea of romancing her just makes me want to vomit.


What makes Merrill so horrid is that she has the Liara childlike persona AND a childlike physique to go with it. That she's portrayed as a sex object to boot is just .... ugh.

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Wow. Some people really have a problem with Liara. I think this thread has actually made me like her more.

<3:lol::alien::wub:

Modifié par Kaelef, 22 avril 2012 - 12:03 .


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Neria Rose wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Liara's youth is another aspect of her character that gets greatly exaggerated by her detractors on the BSN. She is 106 years old in Mass Effect 1, and Samara indicates that Morinth reached adulthood in her 40s. But even if we didn't know when Asari reach adulthood, Liara had a doctorate and was working as an archaeologist. How many children are university educated and employed as scientists?

It is hard to say exactly what the human equivalent of 106 Asari years is, but it is obviously a young adult.

In fact out of all the romance options Tali was arguably the youngest. Obviously Liara was older in terms of years, but I also think she was older in terms of life stage. Tali had just left home in ME1 (making her the equivalent of a human at 18 or 19), whereas Liara had been independent for a number of years.


She specifically states "barely more than a child" (or maybe 'hardly', don't remember, not willing to subject myself to her voice to find out). So barely/hardly an adult. Seriously, disgusts me to a degree that I cannot accurately describe.




It means that she is a young adult.  There is nothing disgusting about Liara's age, unless you find people in their early 20s to be too young.

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Well, almost everyone hated Ashley and Kaidan, so...

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Kaelef wrote...

Wow. Some people really have a problem with Liara. I think this thread has actually made me like her more.

<3:lol::alien::wub:


They dislike my favorite person, so I like him/her more ...

:huh: :unsure:

This is why I don't give a damn to emotional statements.

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Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

Wow. Some people really have a problem with Liara. I think this thread has actually made me like her more.

<3:lol::alien::wub:


They dislike my favorite person, so I like him/her more ...

:huh: :unsure:

This is why I don't give a damn to emotional statements.




What an emotional response!









I'm only teasing -- geeze.....