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[Costin_Razvan]

I know a lot of people killed Loghain ( either Landsmeet or Ultimate Sacrifice ), but some of us didn't and I have to ask if Loghain will show in any sort of capacity for those that did not kill him, if the choice with him will have any relevance.

I wouldn't expect it to really play a huge role, but I think a cameo would be quite nice, perhaps a side quest where he plays a major role ( Kinda like Jack in Grissom, Grunt in the Rachni Mission etc. ). I know Loghain is mentioned if he is alive and Alistair is alive and there but still is there a possibility for him to be there in DA3?

I ask this because Loghain is by far my favorite Bioware character. I really enjoyed talking with him, fighting against him, fighting alongside him and his entire character is just very well crafted.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 21 avril 2012 - 10:23 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Honestly, I'd rather he not show up because the risks of them ****ing him up utterly are so great considering their recent track record.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 21 avril 2012 - 10:27 .

[Dakota Strider]

Even if he survived not being killed in a dual with the Warden, or sacrificed against the Arch Demon...for his traitorous action that killed the king, as well as a substantial part of the army, I would think he should still be put to trial and executed.

I would be interested if there were accurated statistics that showed how many people chose to kill Loghain. The first several times I played, I killed him in a dual. When I finally decided I would try to have him join my party, to see a different part of the game....I still could not bring myself to let him survive past the Landsmeet. He really got on my nerves that bad.

[Costin_Razvan]

I would think he should still be put to trial and executed.

He is a Grey Warden in that situation, who are already sentenced to death in their own way. If you want to ****ing kill him, then kill him, nothing stops you, but he can survive.

A choice should never be spat on and the one regarding Loghain was one of the biggest in the entirity of DA:O.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 21 avril 2012 - 10:35 .

[Costin_Razvan]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

Nope.

At least not in my game. I killed him in DAO.

If there is an import for the people who let him live then I hope for them that he will show up in one way or the other. I for one would frow my eyebrows if I saw him in mine.

Of course. for those that killed him he should never show up.

But look at ME3, regardless of whether or not Jack died you still get Grissom Academy and it does play out differently if you have her alive or not. That's something I would like to see for Loghain.

[PsychoBlonde]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

If there is an import for the people who let him live then I hope for them that he will show up in one way or the other. I for one would frow my eyebrows if I saw him in mine.

What about Zombie Loghain?

[alschemid]

If he appears in a cameo like in Awakening I would love it... but after DA2 I am afraid they will just ***ing him up too, so better not.

[Dave of Canada]

Loghain with Stroud's stache, it's his pragmatic stache. He'd embarrass Anora while walking around flaunting it.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 21 avril 2012 - 11:14 .

[Dave of Canada]

Serious reply: I'd enjoy seeing some sort-of vindication for Loghain, he'd hear about the Orlesians possibly invading Ferelden, he'd shout out "I WAS RIGHT!" while he's flipping a table to punch some Orlesian Chevaliers in the mouth and then ride away on his horse to Ferelden (preferably in the rain, for drama) to aid his daughter or Alistair in Ferelden's defense.

Maybe having it play some part whether or not Orlais is successful in such an invasion, taking into consideration other factors like who's on the throne and the state of Ferelden in general.

[TEWR]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Loghain with Stroud's stache, it's his pragmatic stache. He'd embarrass Anora while walking around flaunting it.

And assuming Orlais invades Ferelden again, Loghain must overturn a table in a fit of rage, punch a Chevalier or two, and steal a horse where he rides to defend Ferelden once again from the Orlesians.

I can see it now... the mustachioed Loghain's glorious scene.

EDIT: 'd with our similar thoughts

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 21 avril 2012 - 11:21 .

[MagmaSaiyan]

actually if i remember right, he ends up going to the deep roads for his Calling...i swore it said something like that, but i think thats when the Warden dies though

[Dave of Canada]

He goes to Orlais.

[Wulfram]

Well, he's supposed to have a limited time left before the calling because he joined when he was old. So if the next game starts after DA2, it would be a bit of a surprise if he's still around.

edit: though I wouldn't have expected Wynne to last as long as she did, from what was said in Origins.

Modifié par Wulfram, 21 avril 2012 - 11:51 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Actually the epilogue of DA:O is irrelevant considering Alistair mentions Loghain still yet lives in Act 3 of DA2 ( If you have Alistair as King and Loghain alive ).

[KnightofPhoenix]

By that age, Wardens generally start to go insane and get overcome by the Song.
I really, really don't want to see what they would do with a Loghain slipping into madness [waits for someone to say he was already mad].

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 21 avril 2012 - 11:55 .

[Tommyspa]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

By that age, Wardens generally start to go insane and get overcome by the Song.
I really, really don't want to see what they would do with a Loghain slipping into madness [waits for someone to say he was already mad].

They do not simply go mad with age, but with years of taint. And we have no measuring stick for a warden the age of Loghain or someone with his overall strength and constitution. No reason to assume that he will be slipping.

[Emzamination]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Actually the epilogue of DA:O is irrelevant considering Alistair mentions Loghain still yet lives in Act 3 of DA2 ( If you have Alistair as King and Loghain alive ).

No, Act 3 take place during the exact year the epilogue mentions.

[Dakota Strider]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

By that age, Wardens generally start to go insane and get overcome by the Song.
I really, really don't want to see what they would do with a Loghain slipping into madness [waits for someone to say he was already mad].

Your wait is over.

[HanErlik]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Honestly, I'd rather he not show up because the risks of them ****ing him up utterly are so great considering their recent track record.

Loghain suddenly realizes he's gay. Even imagining it, is horrible.

[Who is that Masked Man]

Even after DA2, it'll be around 20 more years until Loghain's Calling. And since Orlais seems to be the setting for DA3, and we've been told that the mystery of what had the Wardens so agitated in DA2 will be addressed in the next game, the prospects of a Loghain cameo seem pretty good.

That said, I imagine it would be a small cameo at most, along the lines of Teagan's appearance in DA2. Loghain is likely dead in far too many people's save files for him to play a major role in any future plot. Heck, I myself have killed him 4 times out of 5, and counting.

Alternatively, I can imagine us simply hearing rumors about a still-active Loghain in passing.

[Worrywort]

The most you can hope for is a cameo from him, but most likely you'll get one throw-away line of dialog talking about him. This is what I hate about having the choices impact games further in the series instead of having impact right away; the consequences feel incredibly trifling.