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[David Gaider]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I know a lot of people killed Loghain ( either Landsmeet or Ultimate Sacrifice ), but some of us didn't and I have to ask if Loghain will show in any sort of capacity for those that did not kill him, if the choice with him will have any relevance.

I wouldn't expect it to really play a huge role, but I think a cameo would be quite nice, perhaps a side quest where he plays a major role ( Kinda like Jack in Grissom, Grunt in the Rachni Mission etc. ). I know Loghain is mentioned if he is alive and Alistair is alive and there but still is there a possibility for him to be there in DA3?

I ask this because Loghain is by far my favorite Bioware character. I really enjoyed talking with him, fighting against him, fighting alongside him and his entire character is just very well crafted.

If Loghain showed up, I'd really rather have it be more than a quick "Hi! I'm Loghain and I'm still alive!" moment, you know? If we can't do more than that, I'd rather let it lie.

[BioFan (Official)]

He is with the ORLESIAN wardens...

[gonzalez.melissa53]

Maybe we could see him go off to his Calling? Wouldn't it be about time? Could be wrong though XD

Modifié par gonzalez.melissa53, 23 avril 2012 - 04:59 .

[TEWR]

David Gaider wrote...

When Loghain shows up, I'd really rather have it be more than a quick "Hi! I'm Loghain and I'm still alive!" moment, you know?

You heard it here first people: David Gaider confirms that the douchey section of Orlais will invade Ferelden again and we'll get our epic moment of Loghain overturning tables, punching Orlesians, and riding a horse in the midnight rain to defend Ferelden again.

HE IS BOUND BY THE BLOOD OATH HE HAS NOW SIGNED.

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All joking aside, there is actually great cause for Orlais to try and conquer Ferelden again besides the fact that some of them want to do so. I imagine that were Ferelden to shield the Divine like I believe they'll do -- as well as the Mages -- then a good portion or even half of Orlais would not be happy that the Divine is operating out of Ferelden and they would want her back.

Possibly even because they're supporting the New Inquisition. Or maybe because they fear that Ferelden will have influence over Thedas and not Orlais.

Which would give Loghain a rather prominent role -- dependent on if he's alive. Otherwise just assign the role to someone else or have the moments be entirely Loghain-centric -- in the conflict if Ferelden was to be the base of operations of DAIII.

So I can easily see Loghain having a great deal of importance in the Mage-Templar/Orlais-Ferelden conflict. Hell, perhaps his life could influence how much of Ferelden is conquered in the early stages, should Orlais invade again.

If he's alive: barely any land if at all is conquered. If he's dead: Ferelden loses a fair chunk of land at first. But I doubt that Orlais would actually succeed in reconquering Ferelden, because Ferelden is the land of awesomesauce.

Also, Messere Gaider, if I might ask: Though I don't know how you'll end The Silent Grove, could you give us some insight on the Alistair-Loghain relationship now if Alistair is king and Loghain is still alive, especially in regards to a certain bearded fellow?

I realize there's still some animosity held because of what Alistair said in DAII's King Alistair quest, but I wonder: Suppose in my personal canon King Alistair + Queen Anora world that Loghain is still alive. Would Alistair have sent a secret, possibly ciphered, missive to Loghain informing him of what he was about to do?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 23 avril 2012 - 08:36 .

[DiegoProgMetal]

He's dead, I cut off his head.

[Emzamination]

David Gaider wrote...

If Loghain showed up, I'd really rather have it be more than a quick "Hi! I'm Loghain and I'm still alive!" moment, you know? If we can't do more than that, I'd rather let it lie.

I understand,Thanks David gaider.

[Kail Ashton]

Hey remember that time Loghain showed up in awakening just to say a quick hi? wasn't that fun?

*laughs evily*

[Massakkolia]

David Gaider wrote...

If Loghain showed up, I'd really rather have it be more than a quick "Hi! I'm Loghain and I'm still alive!" moment, you know? If we can't do more than that, I'd rather let it lie.

That's good to hear. I hope this philosophy aplies to all important characters. Loghain is one of my favorite characters and he lives in most of my playthroughs. Still, having him to just pop up to please fans cheapens him.

Actually I'd rather just do away with all cameo appearances. If a character has to be forcefully written to fit into the plot, please, don't bother. Thedas itself, its culture, politics and history, adds enough continuity between different Dragon Age titles. I'm not against natural additions of certain characters. I expect to see Cassandra in the next game and I definitely hope we'll continue to encounter complex adversaries like Loghain.

[thats1evildude]

I wouldn't mind seeing his severed head on a pike in DA3. That would be a suitable cameo.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 23 avril 2012 - 07:32 .

[nightcobra]

David Gaider wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I know a lot of people killed Loghain ( either Landsmeet or Ultimate Sacrifice ), but some of us didn't and I have to ask if Loghain will show in any sort of capacity for those that did not kill him, if the choice with him will have any relevance.

I wouldn't expect it to really play a huge role, but I think a cameo would be quite nice, perhaps a side quest where he plays a major role ( Kinda like Jack in Grissom, Grunt in the Rachni Mission etc. ). I know Loghain is mentioned if he is alive and Alistair is alive and there but still is there a possibility for him to be there in DA3?

I ask this because Loghain is by far my favorite Bioware character. I really enjoyed talking with him, fighting against him, fighting alongside him and his entire character is just very well crafted.

If Loghain showed up, I'd really rather have it be more than a quick "Hi! I'm Loghain and I'm still alive!" moment, you know? If we can't do more than that, I'd rather let it lie.

hmm ... if he's dead there's always the spirit/ghost of loghain 

kinda like:

if he's alive you encounter him as a warden with his own little quest in orlais

if he's dead you encounter him as a resentful ghost with his own little quest in denerim

if he's dead due to archdemon sacrifife, maybe a quest involving his memorial at denerim?

just putting a few thoughts out there. 

[nightcobra]

Kail Ashton wrote...

Hey remember that time Loghain showed up in awakening just to say a quick hi? wasn't that fun?

*laughs evily*

it was short but i found it fun, if nothing else because i ruined his life and he treats me like his best friend, a friend who married his daughter over to the king's brother who happens to be a warden, made him join the wardens and then go to orlais as well as taking his lands as my boon.

[Dakota Strider]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

hmm ... if he's dead there's always the spirit/ghost of loghain 

kinda like:

if he's alive you encounter him as a warden with his own little quest in orlais

if he's dead you encounter him as a resentful ghost with his own little quest in denerim

if he's dead due to archdemon sacrifife, maybe a quest involving his memorial at denerim?

just putting a few thoughts out there. 

How about, if he is dead (since most likely the player did not like Loghain in DAO), there is a celebration, commemorating the Warden defeating the traitor of the Battle of Ostagar, in a dual at the Landsmeet?  As long as we are giving quests, based on outcomes of DAO. 

Not sure there are spirits that exist in the way suggested, as in ghosts.  If there are, then it may be worthwhile to for one like myself to see the spirit of Loghain again, to get a chance to ...(use your imagination, in DAO, my Warden was just as driven to defeat Loghain, as he was the Blight.).

Modifié par Dakota Strider, 24 avril 2012 - 12:40 .

[nightcobra]

we've seen and fought dwarf ghosts in the deep roads so i don't see why not... Unless becoming a ghost is a thing only a dwarf can do due to them being cut off from the fade.

[Anvos]

I think I've got it.

If you leave him alive you learn he died of a massive heart attack while attempting to storm the stage of the opening night of Orlais newest hit comedy musical play "An Ode to Turnips: The True Story of Ferelden" featuring the song "I am a little Turnip Boy".

Modifié par Anvos, 24 avril 2012 - 07:15 .

[Achkas]

David Gaider wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I know a lot of people killed Loghain ( either Landsmeet or Ultimate Sacrifice ), but some of us didn't and I have to ask if Loghain will show in any sort of capacity for those that did not kill him, if the choice with him will have any relevance.

I wouldn't expect it to really play a huge role, but I think a cameo would be quite nice, perhaps a side quest where he plays a major role ( Kinda like Jack in Grissom, Grunt in the Rachni Mission etc. ). I know Loghain is mentioned if he is alive and Alistair is alive and there but still is there a possibility for him to be there in DA3?

I ask this because Loghain is by far my favorite Bioware character. I really enjoyed talking with him, fighting against him, fighting alongside him and his entire character is just very well crafted.

If Loghain showed up, I'd really rather have it be more than a quick "Hi! I'm Loghain and I'm still alive!" moment, you know? If we can't do more than that, I'd rather let it lie.

You could handle it as in this suggestion -- http://social.biowar.../index/11023929

[AkiKishi]

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

He's dead, I cut off his head.

Leliana got better.....

[LobselVith8]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I don't think they realize how great a character he was. And I am starting to believe that his greatness was essentially an accident and that they didn't expect a number would like him that much.

Hey man, monsters and insane people with no characterization are what the fans really want. Not actual people with real motivations and whatnot.

Has it ever been addressed why they went from a complex character like Loghain as an antagonist (and even an enigmatic character like the Architect in Awakening), to the one-dimensional antagonists in Dragon Age II?

coles4971 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Hey man, monsters and insane people with no characterization are what the fans really want. Not actual people with real motivations and whatnot.

lol.

I'm kinda worried what Loghain would look like in the DA2 art style. *shudders*

It could go either way, given how different the style has become since Origins. Loghain might end up turning out as badly as Zevran did in Dragon Age II.

[Zkyire]

Loghain's popularity is pretty split 50/50.

Half of the fanbase wants him dead for being a traitor.

The other half wants him alive and returning for being a patriot.

I can see why Bioware might be hesitant with bringing him back as a full-time or near full-time character in future Dragon Age games. That being: it'd be a hefty investment that only half of us would enjoy (that half of us would enjoy it very much as Loghain is an incredible character) but still, only half nonetheless.