So... I finished ME3 again.
And came to that DREADED ending sequence. Shepard went into the elevator (with no gun :v) and I met Casper again.
While talking to Casper, Shepard says that the defining characteristic of Organic life is free will and the ability to make choices. He thinks forcing a life onto Organics would be bad, then.
DURRR OKAY LETS IGNORE WHAT I SAID AND TURN ALL ORGANICS INTO CYBORGS
What? How is this the best option?
-Citadel gets destroyed
-Shepard is turned into spacegoo
-Shepard gives the reapers exactly what they want
-Shepard turns on his own logic
-SHEPARD FORCES ALL ORGANIC LIFE INTO ONE PATH
Really? It's obvious BW intended this to be the "Best" golden ending, as it requires a ****ton of Assets to get, and it's the middle option, and the one the Catalyst advertises best. It's also the only ending where Earth can't get destroyed.
But... look at Control, for a minute, why don't we?
-Shepard dies
+Citadel Surivives
+Reapers go home
+Nothing is forced on anyone, except the Reapers... and well, they're dicks.
So, WHY is Synthesis considered a good ending?
Can someone explain WHY Synthesis is the "Best" ending? Also, Shepards a hypocrite
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:09
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Think about who said it was the best ending. The little bastard was facing either R) being destroyed, 
being controlled by some puny human, or G) getting off scott-free.
being controlled by some puny human, or G) getting off scott-free.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:10
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Because the all mighty space child says so and whatever he says we must agree with!
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:12
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Synthesis goes against nature itself. Organic species must evolve based upon their own path as they have been for millions upon millions of years. One person should not have that amount of power over nature. It's absolutely repulsive.
Control is what the Illusive Man wanted and who is to say that someone along the line won't use them to cause havoc?
Destroy kills quite a lot but will prevent any sort of tampering with nature and psychotic lunatics from unleashing the reapers.
Control is what the Illusive Man wanted and who is to say that someone along the line won't use them to cause havoc?
Destroy kills quite a lot but will prevent any sort of tampering with nature and psychotic lunatics from unleashing the reapers.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:14
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Its not.
Its the very thing Legion and Shepard talk about in ME2, about being offered evolution - or finding it yourself.
Of the three endings, Synthesis is the one most against my moral compass. Obvious issues with space magic aside, the genetic / cultural rewrite of every synthetic and organic thing in the galaxy does not sit well on my conscious.
Its the very thing Legion and Shepard talk about in ME2, about being offered evolution - or finding it yourself.
Of the three endings, Synthesis is the one most against my moral compass. Obvious issues with space magic aside, the genetic / cultural rewrite of every synthetic and organic thing in the galaxy does not sit well on my conscious.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:15
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It isn't.
My Shep will always live.
Destroy, first, last and always.
*Shep* "The illusive man seems to think controlling the reapers is the way we win this."
*Anderson* "He's wrong. Dead reapers is the way we win this."
My Shep will always live.
Destroy, first, last and always.
*Shep* "The illusive man seems to think controlling the reapers is the way we win this."
*Anderson* "He's wrong. Dead reapers is the way we win this."
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:15
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By choosing synthesis, you do what Saren failed to do under Sovereign's control and what you were fighting to stop in the first ME.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:16
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It's the best ending because it's the most "difficult" to achieve..
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:16
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Synthesis is worse than control. The implications of synthesis are just horrifying.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:17
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CavScout wrote...
Who thinks it is the best ending?
Bioware.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:18
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Because everyone thinks the main character in Mass Effect is Shepard. That's is wrong It's Joker. Synthesis provides him with the happiest ending imaginable... a galaxy set up for him to engage in his deviant robot sex practices.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:18
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CavScout wrote...
Who thinks it is the best ending?
Bioware.
It's the ending that requires the most assets from me.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:18
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legion999 wrote...
CavScout wrote...
Who thinks it is the best ending?
Bioware.
What makes you think this?
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:18
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Shep's a hypocrite in Control, too. Or did you forget the part 10 minutes earlier where he told the Illusive Man that even if he could control the Reapers, it's too much power for TIM to wield.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:22
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CavScout wrote...
legion999 wrote...
CavScout wrote...
Who thinks it is the best ending?
Bioware.
What makes you think this?
They said that you could achieve the best ending without multiplayer. THEY MEANT SYNTHESIS.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:22
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Because synthetics and organics will always be at war, and synthesis puts a permanent end to that otherwise inevitable conflict, and does so with no extra bloodshed.
Oh, wait, the Geth always wanted to live peacefully with the Quarians, and EDI has the hots for Joker...so war between synthetics and organics ISN'T inevitable...
Yeah, synthesis is the worst ending.
Oh, wait, the Geth always wanted to live peacefully with the Quarians, and EDI has the hots for Joker...so war between synthetics and organics ISN'T inevitable...
Yeah, synthesis is the worst ending.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:25
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Not disagreeing, just a slight correction: Shep says it's too much power for ANYONE (not just TIM) to wield, which is important because the Catalyst tries to make a distiction between Shep and TIM when it comes to who is capable of controlling the Reapers.NoUserNameHere wrote...
Shep's a hypocrite in Control, too. Or did you forget the part 10 minutes earlier where he told the Illusive Man that even if he could control the Reapers, it's too much power for TIM to wield.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:26
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Gamble has said that they are looking into the EMS thing simply because people HATE Synthesis.
The general consensus on the forum is that Destroy is the best ending, simply because it removes all possibilities of the Reapers influence in any capacity.
The general consensus on the forum is that Destroy is the best ending, simply because it removes all possibilities of the Reapers influence in any capacity.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:28
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He did? Where did he say that?Taboo-XX wrote...
Gamble has said that they are looking into the EMS thing simply because people HATE Synthesis.
The general consensus on the forum is that Destroy is the best ending, simply because it removes all possibilities of the Reapers influence in any capacity.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:30
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sth88 wrote...
He did? Where did he say that?Taboo-XX wrote...
Gamble has said that they are looking into the EMS thing simply because people HATE Synthesis.
The general consensus on the forum is that Destroy is the best ending, simply because it removes all possibilities of the Reapers influence in any capacity.
Someone said something about the EMS and muliplayer and he said they were definetly looking into it which tells me in at least some capacity that they are aware that people want to have 4000 to 5000 EMS to see Shepard alive in some capacity without multiplayer.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:30
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Who said that Synthesis was the best option?
Everyone who's tried to control (or even work with) the Reapers ended up indoctrinated. Destory was the only option.
NoUserNameHere wrote...
Shep's a hypocrite in Control, too. Or did you forget the part 10 minutes earlier where he told the Illusive Man that even if he could control the Reapers, it's too much power for TIM to wield.
Everyone who's tried to control (or even work with) the Reapers ended up indoctrinated. Destory was the only option.
Modifié par Kunari801, 22 avril 2012 - 12:32 .
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:30
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Taboo-XX wrote...
Gamble has said that they are looking into the EMS thing simply because people HATE Synthesis.
The general consensus on the forum is that Destroy is the best ending, simply because it removes all possibilities of the Reapers influence in any capacity.
I think the biggest issue they've got with Control and Synthesis is not so much that they're options, but the fact that they were options that were totally leant towards throughout ME1 and ME3 as being BAD options while destroying the Reapers for all 3 games was your ultimate goal.
Had any of the three games started a more deliberate approach earlier on with leanings towards those being more realistic options and better options, it wouldn't have been so bad. But, like so much else with the ending of ME3, it all just came out of left field.
I know that at the end of my first ME3 run when the ending came up, as soon as Catalyst said Control and Synthesis it was straight out - no fracking way am I choosing those two.
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Posté 22 avril 2012 - 12:31
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ALERT: BOOK SPOILERS!
Synthesis is pretty much the ending of Isamov 's book Foundation and Earth. I thought of this some days ago. So it's an homage to that ending, but the original was way better described.
END SPOILERS
Not saying that I like it, way too many moral implications. Actually it could be a decent ending with a massive workaround in the upcoming dlc, but my Shep will never run in that beam again.
Synthesis is pretty much the ending of Isamov 's book Foundation and Earth. I thought of this some days ago. So it's an homage to that ending, but the original was way better described.
END SPOILERS
Not saying that I like it, way too many moral implications. Actually it could be a decent ending with a massive workaround in the upcoming dlc, but my Shep will never run in that beam again.
