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[Sbri]

I had no issue with EDI. Her looks were teasingly pointed out in game and then we moved on. She doesn't seem hyper-sexualized, just sexy.
Jack didn't bother me as she never struck me a "sexy". She seemed more "punk" or "hard". I just kept thinking about how much that leather strap must chafe. Otherwise, no problem.
Now Miranda, THAT was annoying. I swear if I have to hear her talk about how pretty/perfect she is while being forced to stare at her butt one more time, I'm modding my game.
As to heels in combat, while they are far from my first choice of footwear, I been active enough in high heels to know that if you're used to them, running, jumping and making agile turns are a piece of cake. I'd rather have flats, but I'll say it can be done.
Oh and before I forget to mention, I'm female.

[humes spork]

elegolas1 wrote...

the high heels ****** me off on any charcter in battle! ridiculous! also i am confused how some characters go out into space with bare skin. like on the reaper iff mission in me2 where they have to jump over to the normandy. space is cold, it can be up to 0K, absolute zero. and yet jack and miranda have bare skin.

I agree with almost everything you said, yet I feel the need to comment on this.

The list of things that can (and would) go wrong with vacuum exposure is so long and so emergent that if you were in a position to die of hypothermia in the first place, and did, that alone would be an act of god.

Modifié par humes spork, 24 avril 2012 - 03:26 .

[selphiegirl]

As a woman, and I hate to say it, I'm kinda jaded by the treatment of women in video games. I've been playing games long enough to laugh it off and say "Whatever, I wouldn't run around Arkham City like that, but I'm not badass like Talia Al'Ghul "
EDI's body (and I loved this) was supposed to be inspired by Maria from "Metropolis". I didn't really get that, just that she was a metal woman. I understand that you can't make her look like C-3PO, that just doesn't work in a game like ME. I think I would've been fine with EDI, but the ****** kinda disturbed me, haha.
EDI is treated the same as Miranda, just with less ass shots.
But the high heel thing I don't get. Yes, with practice you can run and jump in heels, I've done it (just for the love of god don't do it on cobble stone!) It's just not practical, Fem Shep, Jack, Liara and Ashley don't do it!

[TheLostGenius]

Shes supposed to be pretty so she can INFILTRATE AND DESTROY!

[philippe willaume]

selphiegirl wrote...

As a woman, and I hate to say it, I'm kinda jaded by the treatment of women in video games. I've been playing games long enough to laugh it off and say "Whatever, I wouldn't run around Arkham City like that, but I'm not badass like Talia Al'Ghul "
EDI's body (and I loved this) was supposed to be inspired by Maria from "Metropolis". I didn't really get that, just that she was a metal woman. I understand that you can't make her look like C-3PO, that just doesn't work in a game like ME. I think I would've been fine with EDI, but the ****** kinda disturbed me, haha.
EDI is treated the same as Miranda, just with less ass shots.
But the high heel thing I don't get. Yes, with practice you can run and jump in heels, I've done it (just for the love of god don't do it on cobble stone!) It's just not practical, Fem Shep, Jack, Liara and Ashley don't do it!

As a man, I can only agree with you there. (Even with the high heels on cobble stone bit. )

On the plus side we don't have the wonder bra and miniskirt in plate with a visible white knickers.



For EDI, I would have through that she was more like number 6 in BSG but she voiced by the actress in question so.. 

****** or 30-minutes-to-get-off-skin-tight-outfit  aside, EDI and Miranda were well developed  characters with a good story. I would have said well rounded char but...........
I am not saying it is perfect, but  I would not lay too much blame on bio ware's door.

phil

Modifié par philippe willaume, 18 septembre 2012 - 08:25 .

[Bolt-Action]

Guy here.
I liked EDI.
I never noticed the camel-toe and never looked that hard, I mean seriously? I don't see it as that big of a deal, I've seen the real deal, so I guess I really don't see the problem. I would think Miri's arse shots would be more bothersome (though, I'm not complaining)

My bigger issue is why so many female characters have to have daddy issues? Even in Levi they added Ann WITH daddy issues. (although, it does seem warranted given her fathers death)

[Gruntburner]

The reason I never got all the complaints about EDI being overly sexualized is the fact that everyone in the game is well aware that she looks like a sexbot, with Jack specifically referring to her as such, Legion mentioning her "top heavy" design, and the many comments made by Joker regarding her appearance. They never really tried to play it straight. This is more an outside perspective though, so my opinion doesn't count for much.

[Bill Casey]

Bolt-Action wrote...

My bigger issue is why so many female
characters have to have daddy issues? Even in Levi they added Ann WITH
daddy issues. (although, it does seem warranted given her fathers death)

Not just female Characters...

- Jacob had a 'falling out' with his father
- Garrus had problems with his dad over Garrus quitting C-Sec; they didn't reconcile until the third game
- Wrex had to kill his dad
- Grunt was born in a Tank
- Thane had issues as a father
- James Vega's dad made him bring him drugs and tried to blackmail him into staying with him
- Legion has issues with the Quarians


The sheer volume of daddy issues is starting to make me think that Dad's must not like it when their sons go through medical school and then make video games for a living...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:21 .

[D24O]

Bill Casey wrote...
Not just female Characters...

- Jacob had a 'falling out' with his father
- Garrus had problems with his dad over Garrus quitting C-Sec; they didn't reconcile until the third game
- Wrex had to kill his dad
- Grunt was born in a Tank
- Thane had issues as a father
- James Vega's dad made him bring him drugs and tried to blackmail him into staying with him
- Legion has issues with the Quarians


The sheer volume of daddy issues is starting to make me think that Dad's must not like it when their sons go through medical school and then make video games for a living...

Hell, Shepard doesn't even talk to their father in any scenario.

[GreyLycanTrope]

He's polly dead

[D24O]

Greylycantrope wrote...

He's polly dead

Or Shepard just hates his/her parents.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Not true my Shep was very concerned about her mum, sort off.

[Massa FX]

I felt sorry for her. She deserved better than skin tight clothes. Maybe a uniform(alliance)? or just something decent.

[D24O]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Not true my Shep was very concerned about her mum, sort off.

Exactly, no thought about your father. Lots of speculations daddy issues for everyone.

[Argetfalcon]

and all the men look like they are on steroids

[Mentxi]

Male gamer.

I do like her body, but I would have liked it even if she got Legion's body (I love it). Being """naked""" and having ****** makes more sense when you are an infiltration unit and a robot.Let's be honest, any female outfit and appearance is hypersexualized since Me2 (Samara was absurd....), with the exception of Tali...and she is quarian. And then Liara's BOOBS or Ashley's face and hair. So, yeah, be mad at it, but not only for EDI.

And the character itself... I don't find her really overly sexualized (not a lot of ******/butt screentime compared to Miranda's ass). Ok, Joker's behaviour is of a really bad taste,he cares for he, I get thatr, but sometimes it seems like he only wants to get laid.

And then another things that pisses me off: killer abs and shaved bodies in every human male. Talk about hypersexualization. I'm sure femshep and manshep shave their legs together while the rest of the crew cleans their high heels or buys steroids... lovely.

[corkey sweet]

Edi would have been better off not being a squad member. She should have remained that blue orb on the normandy. would have made room for a more useful squad member from ME2

[katcrave]

selphiegirl wrote...

As a woman, and I hate to say it, I'm kinda jaded by the treatment of women in video games. I've been playing games long enough to laugh it off and say "Whatever, I wouldn't run around Arkham City like that, but I'm not badass like Talia Al'Ghul "
EDI's body (and I loved this) was supposed to be inspired by Maria from "Metropolis". I didn't really get that, just that she was a metal woman. I understand that you can't make her look like C-3PO, that just doesn't work in a game like ME. I think I would've been fine with EDI, but the ****** kinda disturbed me, haha.
EDI is treated the same as Miranda, just with less ass shots.
But the high heel thing I don't get. Yes, with practice you can run and jump in heels, I've done it (just for the love of god don't do it on cobble stone!) It's just not practical, Fem Shep, Jack, Liara and Ashley don't do it!

Couldn't have said it better myself. And I feel the same about the high heels. Yeah you can run and jump in them...but who would want to?

[SeptimusMagistos]

I always assumed the sexualized robot body was a deliberate nod to 80s sci-fi. Just like the asari.

[Xaijin]

Her body is ridiculous and completely borne of fetish.

[Hudathan]

I like the fact that EDI became a physical crew member and ended up adding a nice additional layer to an already interesting sci-fi concept. I didn't have a problem with how she looked since the body was more or less designed with a purpose in mind. I mean, Tricia Helfer is arguably even more attractive in person. The Asari on the other hand is a lot harder to explain away. A race of females who all have perfect bodies? o_O

[N7 Lisbeth]

In some ways, EDI's hyper-sexualisation makes more sense.

1. Dr. Eva's body was meant to be, to allow for infiltration and deception.
2. In another vein, the idea was to make you think of her as a person.
3. On a instinctive level, they wanted you to understand Joker's interest. (I like EDI for who she is, not her body. But it's an easy way into the animal brain.)

You want to know where hypersexualisation annoyed me? Ashley.

They hussy'd her up something fierce. Pounds of extra makeup, massive collagen lips, the miniskirt armour, and on and on. Just yuck! Add to that her constant insecurities about, well, everything. Then they compare her directly to you by making her a Spectre. Just ... wow.

On a side note, I do wish they'd "fill out" models more realistically. Especially the one that Shepard uses. Broaden the shoulders a bit, add a little more mass to the arms.

[AllegedVixEo]

I'm a female gamer. I wasn't offended by EDIs body. It makes sense too, because like we learn with Miranda, Cerberus is no stranger to trying to exploit the human ideal. They wanted EVA to pass as human, and be like superhuman - of course, as we know, she was actually AI but still...