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[Mr_Martlet]

You can make some of the people happy some of the time. BUT, You can not make All the People happy all the time! I think this makes the game feel that way. I think that stuff like this happens when folks have failed expectations with the other gender. Maybe they can Not find someone of the other gender to be with. they only thing they can find is some one of the same gender to relate to without fear or whatever.I feel sorry for those people. People seduce themselves into and out of sexual relationships. For example, 89% of all Divorces are done by women. My question is why is sexual stuff even in the game? Because it sells more games? If so why does it happen only once?

[Inarai]

stethnorun wrote...

Torias wrote...

There is no Bestiality in the game.

All sexual content, be it homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, straight, financial, casual or serious, is all completely optional and only occurs at the players direction.

Actually this is a bit of an untruth. Zevran hits on you constantly (if you are male) unless you thoroughly shoot him down. I didn't at first (all the options sounded like I was a bible-thumper) and for the next 5 hours of gameplay, everytime I click on him, his greeting was hitting on me. Thankfully another dialogue came up eventually that said something like "Let's just be friends".

But no, you DO get a healthy dose of ****** without "seeking it out".

Mind you, that's quite like if you met someone who behaves like Zevran in reality.

But that's not technically the content in question.

[enderandrew]

These are choices in a RPG.



If you don't like these choices, then don't choose them.



I find it odd that people have no qualms that the game allows you to murder people and play an evil character, but people take offense at the notion the game gives the option of homosexual encounters.



Which is worse, gay sex or murder?



I'm a straight Christian, and I have no qualms with Bioware allowing such options in a game. Different players can play the game however they choose to do so.

[MerinTB]

Another sex thread.



I cast Summon Woo.



Now, because it'll happen anyway and why wait 10+ pages of a thread for the lock to come?

[Kuldiin]

You dont like it being ingame because it tempts you, correct?



I couldnt care if its ingame or not, I dont go down that route.

[Inarai]

krullstar wrote...

Depends on whether you see that change as positive or not. Movies for a long time have engaged on social issues that have divided people but games not as much. Bioware in DAO is 'playing' on current real life themes that involve racism, sexuality, religion, disparity between poor and rich etc.

I think such an approach is commendable but with it comes the risk that such issues will thrust the developers into the political/social arena. Sometimes its better to be more subtle and thereby make no waves.

Not from an artistic standpoint.  Not in the slightest.

[Mr_Martlet]

To Kuldin, nope. But I wonder whats going on between your ears lol

[Darpaek]

And Leli does hit on a female PC in most playthrus before the PC has an option to hit on her. Whereas a male PC has to initiate the relationship - and it requires a lot more work on the male PC's part.

[StrangeCat Productions]

krullstar wrote...

Depends on whether you see that change as positive or not. Movies for a long time have engaged on social issues that have divided people but games not as much. Bioware in DAO is 'playing' on current real life themes that involve racism, sexuality, religion, disparity between poor and rich etc.

I think such an approach is commendable but with it comes the risk that such issues will thrust the developers into the political/social arena. Sometimes its better to be more subtle and thereby make no waves.

Whatever the case, my biggest disappointed with the game is that my request for a surprise at the Brothel did not end up being multiple women with just me! I mean, I spent so much money there, used every girl they hand - you would think they would one time offer me a group deal - you know? lol

I think it's pathetic that it is a risk or anyone thinks it is, I think it's pathetic that people even think bad on someones religion or sexuality,

and forget about politics, that's just one big world joke.  Oh wait religions have been the mastermind behind politics since the beginning hmm, wait religions have been the ones to persecute people for the sexual orientation since the begginning,

or is that the Catholic Medivel church? oh there views never changed.  so then you have 100 different religions with on religion...

Bioware is creating a dark and gritty world, and in this world there is sex, politics, and religious views...
like I said reality is far far worse:devil:

[Rainen89]

God forbid a game incorporate elements that are and would be present in a real universe. Also to the mention of Zevran, yeah he is aggressive to you but you can immedaitely turn him down if it's so very offensive. He will then stop and call you friend. Honestly this is his personality. Leliana is not this way at all in fact she's rather non chalant about sexuality in general.

[Mr_Martlet]

Hey I got some intelligent replys

[Inarai]

krullstar wrote...

Artistic standpoint - create a comic of Muhammad wearing a turban which is a bomb.
Result? Riots all over the world.

When artistic freedom targets hotly debated social issues etc then very likely some kind of fallout can be expected.

Think of the Civil Rights movement and pretend that back then there were computer games and in one such game a black character had a love scene with a white female - such as we see in DAO. Think there would be any kind of reaction?

So all I am stating is that when a game plays on racism, sexuality, disparity between poor and rich then the higher the probability that the game will get some kind of reaction from one group or another.

So, what, you're saying we should pander to knuckle-dragging bigots with their heads stuck firmly...  In the past, and of whom there is literally nothing kind to say?

I will say this once:  Hell.  No.

And frankly, reaction is good.  Reaction means discussion.  Progress cannot occur in silence.

[Mr_Martlet]

Hey I got some intelligent replys

[Wolfva2]

Darpaek wrote...

And Leli does hit on a female PC in most playthrus before the PC has an option to hit on her. Whereas a male PC has to initiate the relationship - and it requires a lot more work on the male PC's part.

Just like in real life, eh?

[Kaosgirl]

Inarai wrote...

stethnorun wrote...

Torias wrote...

There is no Bestiality in the game.

All sexual content, be it homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, straight, financial, casual or serious, is all completely optional and only occurs at the players direction.

Actually this is a bit of an untruth. Zevran hits on you constantly (if you are male) unless you thoroughly shoot him down. I didn't at first (all the options sounded like I was a bible-thumper) and for the next 5 hours of gameplay, everytime I click on him, his greeting was hitting on me. Thankfully another dialogue came up eventually that said something like "Let's just be friends".

But no, you DO get a healthy dose of ****** without "seeking it out".

Mind you, that's quite like if you met someone who behaves like Zevran in reality.

As I recall, Zev is bi.  Does he show the same persistance in hitting on female characters?

If so, I call "double standard" on anyone who complains about it the one way while turning a blind eye towards the other.

[Pinkleaf]

Torias wrote...

There is no Bestiality in the game.

All sexual content, be it homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, straight, financial, casual or serious, is all completely optional and only occurs at the players direction.

To sum up, "it can all be quite delicious, sweet thing" 

[Rainen89]

He would act the same way, hell he flirts with EVERYONE freaking flirts with Shale. That's zevran, you turn him down, he stops but thinking it's weird for a guy to hit on you, when you're enabling him is just silly.

[Darpaek]

Nope, can't say I've ever had to tell off/kill some chick's ex-girlfriend before she'd be interested in me...

[Shannara13]

stethnorun wrote...

Torias wrote...

There is no Bestiality in the game.

All sexual content, be it homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, straight, financial, casual or serious, is all completely optional and only occurs at the players direction.

Actually this is a bit of an untruth. Zevran hits on you constantly (if you are male) unless you thoroughly shoot him down. I didn't at first (all the options sounded like I was a bible-thumper) and for the next 5 hours of gameplay, everytime I click on him, his greeting was hitting on me. Thankfully another dialogue came up eventually that said something like "Let's just be friends".

But no, you DO get a healthy dose of ****** without "seeking it out".

Well if you are a bible thumper you can shoot him down after the first time he tries it. However if he didn't at least try to flirt with you then he would be acting in character .

[Shannara13]

Kaosgirl wrote...

As I recall, Zev is bi.  Does he show the same persistance in hitting on female characters?

If so, I call "double standard" on anyone who complains about it the one way while turning a blind eye towards the other.

Yes he does show the same persitence with a female character. There is always a huge double standard when it comes to homosexuality for alot of people.

Modifié par Shannara13, 07 décembre 2009 - 07:01 .

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

In roman times the words gay, lesbian and bi didnt exist. Sex was sex. Didnt matter how or with who you got pleasure from. Shouldve stayed that way really. Gay, bi, lesbian... all these terms was created in later times with religion and its morals.

DA:O has sexual elements thats it, why should gay, lesbian and bi relationship mean anything more or less than "normal" ones??

Edit: Actually i fail to understand why sex is an issue at all in an 18+ game. Considering that age limit Leliana being into SM and morrigan taking a dump on your face while being humped by a goat MIGHT be extreme enough to trigger a debate. Normal sex shouldnt.

Modifié par SomeoneStoleMyName, 07 décembre 2009 - 07:06 .

[Darpaek]

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