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[zazally]

First of all English is my third language so sorry for the messy grammar/puncuation or whatever lol.

I want to start a female adept character since I think it will match quite well like Male Shepard matches Soldier/Vanguard but I was wondering can I choose whatever in this game or does this game have the same paragon/renegade system as Mass Effect 2 cause I remember the only way to get Geth and Tali on number 2 to stop fighting was to have a really high paragon/renegade bar on my first play through I couldn't do it so I had to import over and do it again just to get to get Geth and Tali to stop fighting and have that option for instance can I say half the game do paragon on number 3 and half do renegade or do I have to stick with one?

[Chewin]

Using dots and commas in your sentences usually helps a lot.

As for the morality system, it's improved in ME3, and you don't have pay attention to it as closely as in the previous installments, since the game features a single Reputation meter, to which both Paragon and Renegade points contribute.

[CroGamer002]

^And Renegade scars.

[zazally]

Chewin3 wrote...

Using dots and commas in your sentences usually helps a lot.

As for the morality system, it's improved in ME3, and you don't have pay attention to it as closely as in the previous installments, since the game features a single Reputation meter, to which both Paragon and Renegade points contribute.

Sorry I don't quite understand what you are saying are you saying that I can do whatever for instance if I feel like doing a renegade option in the game and some paragon options based on what I feel as a player at the time it wont punish me at all so paragon/renegade choices don't matter at all it is based on your reputation?

Modifié par zazally, 22 avril 2012 - 09:29 .

[Chewin]

zazally wrote...
Sorry I don't quite understand what you are saying are you saying that I can do whatever for instance if I feel like doing a renegade option in the game and some paragon options based on what I feel as a player at the time it wont punish me at all so paragon/renegade choices don't matter at all it is based on your reputation?

Pretty much.

I.e. I had some what over 90% of my Reputation bar consisting off Paragon, and I could easily pick every Renegade option the game 'offered'.

[Arsenic Touch]

Chewin3 wrote...

Using dots and commas in your sentences usually helps a lot.

As for the morality system, it's improved in ME3, and you don't have pay attention to it as closely as in the previous installments, since the game features a single Reputation meter, to which both Paragon and Renegade points contribute.

Improved? try got worse.
Now there is really no difference between the paragon and renegade choices. At least in the prior games they actually meant something.

[Chewin]

Arsenic Touch wrote...
Improved? try got worse.
Now there is really no difference between the paragon and renegade choices. At least in the prior games they actually meant something.

By restricting me to choices just b/c I didn't choose a specific one previously? The morality system is flawed, and was from the very beginning. In ME3 I can choose what I think is the right thing, and not having to worry about me not doing enough I.e. Paragon choices in the game.

Plus, me resolving conflicts depending on how much per-cent my morality bar is stupid, imo. ME3 improved on that part as well.

[zazally]

Chewin3 wrote...

zazally wrote...
Sorry I don't quite understand what you are saying are you saying that I can do whatever for instance if I feel like doing a renegade option in the game and some paragon options based on what I feel as a player at the time it wont punish me at all so paragon/renegade choices don't matter at all it is based on your reputation?

Pretty much.

I.e. I had some what over 90% of my Reputation bar consisting off Paragon, and I could easily pick every Renegade option the game 'offered'.

Thank you so much! should you do every renegade/paragon option you possibly can in dialogue/cutscenes for example right mouse click for paragon and left mouse click to renegade to give you a boost in reputation since now you are not penalized for choosing either whenever you like? Just sounds like you would want to get as much renegade/paragon points as possible to increase reputation.

Modifié par zazally, 22 avril 2012 - 09:55 .

[Chewin]

zazally wrote...
Thank you so much! So are you saying you should do every renegade/paragon option you possibly can in dialogue/cutscenes for example right mouse click for paragon and left mouse click to renegade to give you a boost in reputation?

That's not necessary. Paragon or Renegade choices still boost your bar, but it's not as important as before.
Simply doing and completing missions in the game boost your Reputation well enough.

[Dormiglione]

The difference between paragon/renegade choices doesnt matter for your rep. There are a few scene's in the campaign where you can change the outcome of a mission, like "chose to cure the genophage or not".
But in general it matters only for the sentence/response you give and some variation of the scene. Not more.
The endings remain all the same.

[zazally]

Chewin3 wrote...

zazally wrote...
Thank you so much! So are you saying you should do every renegade/paragon option you possibly can in dialogue/cutscenes for example right mouse click for paragon and left mouse click to renegade to give you a boost in reputation?

That's not necessary. Paragon or Renegade choices still boost your bar, but it's not as important as before.
Simply doing and completing missions in the game boost your Reputation well enough.

Oh okay so you saying I can have access to any dialogue option in the game no matter what depending what my reputation bar is at? Thank you I understand now so I can be full renegade the whole game and still get access and choose the paragon option if wanted that is AWESOME


So importing a full paragon shepard or renegade sheperd does nothing in the third one.

Modifié par zazally, 22 avril 2012 - 10:07 .

[Tup3x]

zazally wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

zazally wrote...
Thank you so much! So are you saying you should do every renegade/paragon option you possibly can in dialogue/cutscenes for example right mouse click for paragon and left mouse click to renegade to give you a boost in reputation?

That's not necessary. Paragon or Renegade choices still boost your bar, but it's not as important as before.
Simply doing and completing missions in the game boost your Reputation well enough.

Oh okay so you saying I can have access to any dialogue option in the game no matter what depending what my reputation bar is at? Thank you I understand now so I can be full renegade the whole game and still get access and choose the paragon option if wanted that is AWESOME


So importing a full paragon shepard or renegade sheperd does nothing in the third one.

It does help to get reputation bar higher more easily.

[HeadshotHatTrick]

Arsenic Touch wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

Using dots and commas in your sentences usually helps a lot.

As for the morality system, it's improved in ME3, and you don't have pay attention to it as closely as in the previous installments, since the game features a single Reputation meter, to which both Paragon and Renegade points contribute.

Improved? try got worse.
Now there is really no difference between the paragon and renegade choices. At least in the prior games they actually meant something.

Tell me about it, after finding out that I can choose almost any renegade option by having a full paragon rep really made me disappointed, I worked so hard in ME 1 & 2 doing no renegade actions at all. All for naught. Even more frustrated when I learned about this "paragade" path.

Modifié par HeadshotHatTrick, 22 avril 2012 - 10:41 .

[tbb033]

The only renegade/paragon options in the entire game that I had greyed out were the very last ones that you may very well not even see depending on how that conversation goes, I replayed that segment 4-5 times and only had the greyed out ones pop up once.

It's worth noting, they were BOTH greyed out. I played ~90% renegade, but had some paragon points from my ME2 import too. Both renegade and paragon choices were grey. But as I said, this was the only time at all in the game anything came up grey.

Modifié par tbb033, 22 avril 2012 - 10:38 .

[BarnabyTheWarrior]

No.

[Gallimatia]

The way it matters is that it affects some of Shepard's auto dialogue and some of the other characters perception/description of Shepard. It's similar to how Hawke's dialogue is set by his or her dominant trait in DA2 but much less frequent. There's even some middle of the road specific dialogue thrown in there for good measure.

[shepskisaac]

ME3's reputation system is simply one of the best improvements in the game. In ME1 and ME2, pople weren't RPing, they were constantly meta-gaming. We can finally pick options we REALLY want without thinking "but if I pick this option then I won't have enough blue points to do something important".

tbb033 wrote...

The only renegade/paragon options in the entire game that I had greyed out were the very last ones that you may very well not even see depending on how that conversation goes, I replayed that segment 4-5 times and only had the greyed out ones pop up once.

It's worth noting, they were BOTH greyed out. I played ~90% renegade, but had some paragon points from my ME2 import too. Both renegade and paragon choices were grey. But as I said, this was the only time at all in the game anything came up grey.

To unlock the final Charm/Indimidate option with that certain person, you need to use ALL six Charm or Intimidate options on that characters when available previously. You didn't, hence you have the last one greyed out.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 23 avril 2012 - 12:05 .

[InvincibleHero]

Another thing they neutered to make fans happy. I preferred to old way where you could justfiy it as force of personaility and experience. Yes anyone could yell and scream and be a jerk but renegades would get better results out of it than a nun would. Conversely I doubt anyone would accept words of peace and wisdom from Jack in a paragon style to talk them out of something. Appearance body laguage and actual reputaion will influence any outcome.

If people always know Shepard does good things and is nice then a threat is to be viewed as puffery from a paragon. While a renegade rep of dirty Harry where few suspects are brought in alive will get no one to surrender peacefully.