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[Shinobu]

Benny8484 wrote...

I'll be there with you all.  Just signed up on twitter specifically for this.  Even if we aren't successful, we made a stand & thats what is important.  Glad to see so many other people who believe shepard deserves better.

Thank you so much! You didn't need to sign up for twitter, but I appreciate the extra effort you're going to! Tweet for me, too!

[MintyCool]

ZombieJohn84 wrote...

MintyCool wrote...
This will fizzle out like all the other stunts pulled by Retake....

Because $80,000 for Child's Play was clearly a dud idea, huh?

The mendacious use of a charity drive, in which the charity involved has since said they were quite embarrassed about the entire situation, was never consulted on whether they wanted to be involved. This stunt has probably done more harm than good, and pulls the charity directly into the political fray....

I personally find the entire ordeal despicable.

I will never understand why people thought this was a good thing, when it was never about the charity....

www.penny-arcade.com/2012/03/22/childs-play-and-retake-mass-effect

www.joystiq.com/2012/04/12/retake-mass-effect-3-donations-remained-largely-with-childs-p/

www.joystiq.com/2012/03/24/childs-play-shuts-down-fundraiser-to-change-mass-effect-3s-end/

Modifié par MintyCool, 25 avril 2012 - 06:20 .

[Shinobu]

Please stay on topic, everyone!

[xsdob]

Mintycool does have a point here. But theres already a new charity that has gone through all the actually necessary channels, such as getting permission form the charity operators before hand.

I don't have the link but it was paragon...paragon something, and it was a pretty good and overall positive charity, donated 20 dollars myself, and I'm a pro-neutral ender.

To get back on topic, how many people are doing this so far?

Modifié par xsdob, 25 avril 2012 - 06:18 .

[OMEGAlomaniac]

Get on this you lovely people, lets show them how much we care about Mass Effect!

[Shinobu]

xsdob wrote...

Mintycool does have a point here. But theres already a new charity that has gone through all the actually necessary channels, such as getting permission form the charity operators before hand.

I don't have the link but it was paragon...paragon something, and it was a pretty good and overall positive charity, donated 20 dollars myself, and I'm a pro-neutral ender.

To get back on topic, how many people are doing this so far?

861 so far on FB, but that doesn't count the ones like me who aren't on FB.

[xsdob]

^Awesome, keep it up.

[SP2219]

I'm definitely in. A brilliant idea

[Velocithon]

I don't use Twitter, so I'll just play ME3 on Saturday, but not Sunday.


FYI I don't think this will do much, since only people who come here will know...but still it's a good thing.

[jds1bio]

Boy, is this a much better idea than cupcakes. But it really needs a lot more gaming press coverage to reach more people.

And by showing how many people care about the single-player story, is there a message to be read in between the lines here? And is that message "Fans no longer trust EA to give BioWare the necessary time/resources to make and complete their games to fans' satisfaction."? Just curious.

[Kunari801]

jds1bio wrote...

Boy, is this a much better idea than cupcakes. But it really needs a lot more gaming press coverage to reach more people.

And by showing how many people care about the single-player story, is there a message to be read in between the lines here? And is that message "Fans no longer trust EA to give BioWare the necessary time/resources to make and complete their games to fans' satisfaction."? Just curious.

Hopefully it'll be enough to show that people still care about Mass Effect and want it to stay true to it's roots as a Single Player Action RPG.   

[UnstableMongoose]

Shinobu wrote...

Please stay on topic, everyone!

I may think that Shinobu's analysis of the situation is numerically flawed, but seriously, listen to that. You can't draw parallels between Child's Play and this. The problems with the Child Play incident grew out of the involvement of a third party in a struggle they didn't have a stake in. 

This particular effort lacks such a third-party involvement, making the dynamics different.

The level of involvement by numbers means this is extraordinarily unlikely to succeed, but it can't really have a negative consequence either, as Shinobu has pointed out.

If a bunch of people try to log on and then log off and no one really notices, it doesn't have the potential to hurt the reputation of Retake. Bringing that up as a comparison is not really germane.

Modifié par UnstableMongoose, 25 avril 2012 - 07:27 .

[Fox544]

Nice idea. I will take part. I would rather have a proper ending DLC than some unimpressive multiplayer. I played Mass Effect for the story and in that regards ME3 is a complete disaster.

Besides I just remembered I own a VIP copy of Tribes Ascend with 5k free gold. Why play a half baked MP when I can play a fully loaded MP bonanza?

[Benny8484]

Bump for justice.

[EagleScoutDJB]

It makes feel like we're doing something right to come home and find we've gotten MintyCool's attention.

[SCK barman]

Edit: never mind

Modifié par SCK barman, 25 avril 2012 - 09:13 .

[Shinobu]

Nachtdämmerung wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

861 so far on FB, but that doesn't count the ones like me who aren't on FB.

I don't use FB too, so make it a +1

Actually, there are probably more than we know, because this has been spread to France, Russia, Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan, and those players are not on Twitter or FB.

Modifié par Shinobu, 25 avril 2012 - 09:44 .

[Shinobu]

Velocithon wrote...

I don't use Twitter, so I'll just play ME3 on Saturday, but not Sunday.


FYI I don't think this will do much, since only people who come here will know...but still it's a good thing.

You can post an after action report here so we know you took part. Please avoid the BSN on Sunday during your "OFF" time.

This is actually on international BSN forums, HoldTheLine, and has been picked up by Forbes and the Daily Gaming Network.

We unfortunately can'y keep track of the people who aren't here or on FB, but we are not alone. And we're also at *900* on FB right now.

[Shinobu]

jds1bio wrote...

Boy, is this a much better idea than cupcakes. But it really needs a lot more gaming press coverage to reach more people.

And by showing how many people care about the single-player story, is there a message to be read in between the lines here? And is that message "Fans no longer trust EA to give BioWare the necessary time/resources to make and complete their games to fans' satisfaction."? Just curious.

This came to me because I was unable to play SP and took refuge in MP for a while, though I still didn't buy anything. I suddenly realized by playing MP but not SP, I was dooming the thing that I loved most, because EA was seeing me playing MP instead of SP and would then conclude that MP is a better investment.

 Then I thought about all of the people who aren't playing SP but who won't play MP, and realized they're not being counted at all. Bioware doesn't know about all of the peple who are waiting and hoping that the EC will let them enjoy playing their Shepards again, because they're not logging in. This is to give them a voice.

I think the message I personally want to get across is that I miss loving SP, I want the EC to make me want to play again and that if the EC is poorly made I won't be able to play any more. And if I'm not playing, I won't be buying DLC.

I do have a suspicion that the reason this whole ending thing came about is that Bioware ran out of time/money to do what they originally intended. I don't want that to happen again.

[Shinobu]

UnstableMongoose wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Please stay on topic, everyone!

I may think that Shinobu's analysis of the situation is numerically flawed, but seriously, listen to that. You can't draw parallels between Child's Play and this. The problems with the Child Play incident grew out of the involvement of a third party in a struggle they didn't have a stake in. 

This particular effort lacks such a third-party involvement, making the dynamics different.

The level of involvement by numbers means this is extraordinarily unlikely to succeed, but it can't really have a negative consequence either, as Shinobu has pointed out.

If a bunch of people try to log on and then log off and no one really notices, it doesn't have the potential to hurt the reputation of Retake. Bringing that up as a comparison is not really germane.

Thank you, friend! It's nice to have a civilized conversation even if we disagree.

Please understand that I don't claim to represent the entirety or even the majority of the RetakeME3 or HoldTheLine communities. We're not some monolithic organization, and I'm sure many of our members may not know or care about this initiative. I had an idea and some of the wonderful people at HTL were very supportive of me bringing it forward, so here I am. If this initiative works, great. If it fizzles, then the fault lies with me and not with Retake or HTL. Just like I was not involved in the cupcake campaign (though I wish I had been in time to donate money and take part), not everyone from HTL or Retake is involved in this initiative.

I tried to keep money out of this campaign because money leads to strife and expressing our feelings should be free.

[richard_rider]

No Twitter, but I'm in, playing on Saturday as much as I can, and staying off BSN/Origin/out of the game on Sunday.

/salute

[circe]

Shinobu wrote...


This came to me because I was unable to play SP and took refuge in MP for a while, though I still didn't buy anything. I suddenly realized by playing MP but not SP, I was dooming the thing that I loved most, because EA was seeing me playing MP instead of SP and would then conclude that MP is a better investment.

 Then I thought about all of the people who aren't playing SP but who won't play MP, and realized they're not being counted at all. Bioware doesn't know about all of the peple who are waiting and hoping that the EC will let them enjoy playing their Shepards again, because they're not logging in. This is to give them a voice.

I think the message I personally want to get across is that I miss loving SP, I want the EC to make me want to play again and that if the EC is poorly made I won't be able to play any more. And if I'm not playing, I won't be buying DLC.

I do have a suspicion that the reason this whole ending thing came about is that Bioware ran out of time/money to do what they originally intended. I don't want that to happen again.

This is exactly how I feel.  And while a lot of people are upset about this whole ending situation (myself included), I don't want Bioware/EA to think this is a lost cause.  So thanks for suggesting this idea and I hope we can get as many people as possible involved! 

[Omega Torsk]

I've been avoiding twitter for years, now... still debating on whether or not I should make an account just for this movement. But I'll definitely throw my support on the forums and facebook! Just to let them know that Ashley/Broshep deserves a better ending...

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 25 avril 2012 - 10:34 .

[NOD-INFORMER37]

I personally think the timing couldnt be more perfect, since theres an Op going on. That said, there will probably be alot more ppl playing ME3 and Bioware/EA will be keeping a closer eye on how many. If we spread the word and encourage everyone to complete Operation: Exorcist on Friday + Saterday, and not on sunday, that'll show a clear message this isnt a loss cause or anything.

The trick is getting enough ppl though, so SPREAD THE WORD!

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 25 avril 2012 - 10:39 .