redplague wrote...
Umm...you realise that the indoctrination theory has already been disproven by Bioware and their summer DLC release right, as the indoctrination theory was based on the fact that it was all planned by Bioware, which obviously we realise now that it wasn't.
They will eventually have to do that once the EC gets released, anyway - the longer they wait, the bigger reaction will the inevitable disaffirmation have - assuming IT is wrong.CavScout wrote...
Hammer6767 wrote...
When Gamble and others have been asked if IT is possible and will be addressed, they have been coy. No flat out denials. While this may not mean anything, they are still giving fans the option of believing it. They could have easily said the IT was just fans overthinking things and said the existing ending will just be expanded.
What do they gain by crushing a segment of their fan base?
redplague wrote...
Umm...you realise that the indoctrination theory has already been disproven by Bioware and their summer DLC release right, as the indoctrination theory was based on the fact that it was all planned by Bioware, which obviously we realise now that it wasn't.
One where people, maybe not you, try to shout IT down by saying it was just bad writing.CavScout wrote...
Master Che wrote...
I think people who just try to ****** on the theory just think its fashionable to bad mouth bioware and are resentful that they got head faked. They never levy legitimate attacks on the theory the just attack the subscribers.CavScout wrote...
I think people who clutch to Indoctrination Theory are like those folks who see Jesus in their toast. They so want to believe that they start making connections where there aren't any.Navasha wrote...
I think that people who adamantly refuse to believe in even the possibility of the indoctrination theory, just don't want to admit that they might have made the "wrong" choice at the end.
The Indoc. theory is the certainly the best fit to explain everything left so unanswered in the current endings. That doesn't mean there are not other possibilities, but there is just so much foreshadowing in the game as to what is expected at the end.
What world are you living in where thinking the Indoctrination Theory is bunk is an attack on BioWare?
DOCTOR CHA0TICA wrote...
I didn't make this to have an argument.... I just wanted to say I believe in the IT... its the most logical explination (to me anyway) plus, I really wanna believe its true, and not that BW pi55ed on all the loyal ME fans!!
Sauruz wrote...
Welcome in our club. May I hand you your standard-issue tinfoil hat?They will eventually have to do that once the EC gets released, anyway - the longer they wait, the bigger reaction will the inevitable disaffirmation have - assuming IT is wrong.CavScout wrote...
Hammer6767 wrote...
When Gamble and others have been asked if IT is possible and will be addressed, they have been coy. No flat out denials. While this may not mean anything, they are still giving fans the option of believing it. They could have easily said the IT was just fans overthinking things and said the existing ending will just be expanded.
What do they gain by crushing a segment of their fan base?
Master Che wrote...
DOCTOR CHA0TICA wrote...
I didn't make this to have an argument.... I just wanted to say I believe in the IT... its the most logical explination (to me anyway) plus, I really wanna believe its true, and not that BW pi55ed on all the loyal ME fans!!
Any time you bring up IT you'll set up an argument lol
If EC doesn't prove IT I'll use an alternative fanfiction ending as my headcanonCavScout wrote...
Sauruz wrote...
Welcome in our club. May I hand you your standard-issue tinfoil hat?They will eventually have to do that once the EC gets released, anyway - the longer they wait, the bigger reaction will the inevitable disaffirmation have - assuming IT is wrong.CavScout wrote...
Hammer6767 wrote...
When Gamble and others have been asked if IT is possible and will be addressed, they have been coy. No flat out denials. While this may not mean anything, they are still giving fans the option of believing it. They could have easily said the IT was just fans overthinking things and said the existing ending will just be expanded.
What do they gain by crushing a segment of their fan base?
The EC, explaning on the ending as is, won't deter the true believers in Indoctrination Theory. If they don't like the EC they'll just claim it's all a dream. That's the out in Indoctrination Theory.
CavScout wrote...
The EC, explaning on the ending as is, won't deter the true believers in Indoctrination Theory. If they don't like the EC they'll just claim it's all a dream. That's the out in Indoctrination Theory.Sauruz wrote...
Welcome in our club. May I hand you your standard-issue tinfoil hat?They will eventually have to do that once the EC gets released, anyway - the longer they wait, the bigger reaction will the inevitable disaffirmation have - assuming IT is wrong.CavScout wrote...
What do they gain by crushing a segment of their fan base?Hammer6767 wrote...
When Gamble and others have been asked if IT is possible and will be addressed, they have been coy. No flat out denials. While this may not mean anything, they are still giving fans the option of believing it. They could have easily said the IT was just fans overthinking things and said the existing ending will just be expanded.
Modifié par Master Che, 22 avril 2012 - 02:16 .
Master Che wrote...
CavScout wrote...
The EC, explaning on the ending as is, won't deter the true believers in Indoctrination Theory. If they don't like the EC they'll just claim it's all a dream. That's the out in Indoctrination Theory.Sauruz wrote...
Welcome in our club. May I hand you your standard-issue tinfoil hat?They will eventually have to do that once the EC gets released, anyway - the longer they wait, the bigger reaction will the inevitable disaffirmation have - assuming IT is wrong.CavScout wrote...
What do they gain by crushing a segment of their fan base?Hammer6767 wrote...
When Gamble and others have been asked if IT is possible and will be addressed, they have been coy. No flat out denials. While this may not mean anything, they are still giving fans the option of believing it. They could have easily said the IT was just fans overthinking things and said the existing ending will just be expanded.
No. We'll just shrug our shoulders and say oh well while the trolls smile smugly
Navasha wrote...
People would have to blatantly turn a blind eye to all of the foreshadowing. Ever ask WHY so much foreshadowing is written in to the game?
For instance... remember viewing logs on Horizon that talk about how perfect the dragon spikes were for quickly allowing CONTROL of the organism? That adrenaline sped up the process significantly? Why write those into bits for the player to hear along the way? Its called foreshadowing..
Do you think Shepard had a little bit of adrenaline keeping him alive after being blasted by harbys beam?
Master Che wrote...
Because anytime anyone says IT the thread is invaded with villagers with torches and pitch forks.
CavScout wrote...
Master Che wrote...
Because anytime anyone says IT the thread is invaded with villagers with torches and pitch forks.
Oh no, people talking about the game's campaign in the campaign discussion forum. The horror!
But it is understandable why they are against IT, it would mean they never got the full game they paid for.Navasha wrote...
People would have to blatantly turn a blind eye to all of the foreshadowing. Ever ask WHY so much foreshadowing is written in to the game?
yep. I think IT would work if we were given it in game... Even after the credits.DJBare wrote...
But it is understandable why they are against IT, it would mean they never got the full game they paid for.Navasha wrote...
People would have to blatantly turn a blind eye to all of the foreshadowing. Ever ask WHY so much foreshadowing is written in to the game?
CavScout wrote...
Navasha wrote...
You're making connections between things when there is none.
Modifié par Navasha, 22 avril 2012 - 02:33 .
I think harby only wanted to inflict enough damage to break your will... YOUR will. When Shep got up and was all burnt I couldnt help but feel forlorn.Navasha wrote...
People would have to blatantly turn a blind eye to all of the foreshadowing. Ever ask WHY so much foreshadowing is written in to the game?
For instance... remember viewing logs on Horizon that talk about how perfect the dragon spikes were for quickly allowing CONTROL of the organism? That adrenaline sped up the process significantly? Why write those into bits for the player to hear along the way? Its called foreshadowing..
Do you think Shepard had a little bit of adrenaline keeping him alive after being blasted by harbys beam?
Modifié par Master Che, 22 avril 2012 - 02:38 .
Navasha wrote...
That works in the REAL world... but this is a written story. Authors don't just throw out random bits. Stories with "surprise" endings rely on adding in foreshadowing and hints so that they can tie it all up together at the end.CavScout wrote...
You're making connections between things when there is none.Navasha wrote...
Watch the movies, Sixth Sense or Usual Suspects. Those movies absolutely rely on foreshadowing and dropped hints along the way to make the ending the "shocking realization" that the author intends. Those "random" connections were never random when added to a narrative.
Modifié par Master Che, 22 avril 2012 - 02:38 .
Master Che wrote...
Navasha wrote...
That works in the REAL world... but this is a written story. Authors don't just throw out random bits. Stories with "surprise" endings rely on adding in foreshadowing and hints so that they can tie it all up together at the end.CavScout wrote...
You're making connections between things when there is none.Navasha wrote...
Watch the movies, Sixth Sense or Usual Suspects. Those movies absolutely rely on foreshadowing and dropped hints along the way to make the ending the "shocking realization" that the author intends. Those "random" connections were never random when added to a narrative.
But this is a game, not a movie /sarcasm
C'mon, he learned a new word. Let him have his moment. Lol
Navasha wrote...
CavScout wrote...
Navasha wrote...
You're making connections between things when there is none.
That works in the REAL world... but this is a written story. Authors don't just throw out random bits. Stories with "surprise" endings rely on adding in foreshadowing and hints so that they can tie it all up together at the end.
Watch the movies, Sixth Sense or Usual Suspects. Those movies absolutely rely on foreshadowing and dropped hints along the way to make the ending the "shocking realization" that the author intends. Those "random" connections were never random when added to a narrative.
CavScout wrote...
Indoctrination is an element of the Reaper invasion...
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