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[Cadence of the Planes]

I saw Kai Leng as nothing more than a tool for a REAL villain in the game: The Illusive Man. Kai Leng doesn't matter, his backstory, motives, etc. He is just the 'bite' of the Illusive Man.

[Skeloton]

To me Kai leng is like a Chinese cross of MGS4 Raiden, DX:HR Jensen and Resident Evil 5's Albert Wesker.

[Rrezz]

I don't hate Kei Leng as a character. I hate him as a person. yeah he was a bad ass character, but he was always ****ing **** up and getting in Cmdr. Shepard's way. plus you know, he killed Thane. he was one of those character where killing him was very satisfying, almost as satisfying as when I killed Saren, almost.

[Tup3x]

Sipau Fade wrote...

 I'm surprised by the hate Kai Leng received. Im curious, would you kindly answer this post with if you hated him and did you read the ME books or not. No clarification needed as this is a non spoiler post. 

Why exactly should people love a villain like that? In my opinion it's a poorly written character if you love the villain. I wanted to take him down and hated him.

[Apple_NdiB]

Skeloton wrote...

To me Kai leng is like a Chinese cross of MGS4 Raiden, DX:HR Jensen and Resident Evil 5's Albert Wesker.

if someone told me last year that a character baring any resemblance to Wesker in Resi 5 was going to be in ME3 I would have killed them so hard they would have died to death.

Modifié par Apple_NdiB, 22 avril 2012 - 02:35 .

[Elvis_Mazur]

He seems so out of place.

[Skeloton]

Apple_NdiB wrote...

Skeloton wrote...

To me Kai leng is like a Chinese cross of MGS4 Raiden, DX:HR Jensen and Resident Evil 5's Albert Wesker.

if someone told me last year that a character baring any resemblance to Wesker in Resi 5 was going to be in ME3 I would have killed them so hard they would have died to death.

Lol, he only reminds me of wesker because of the matrix jacket, invinciblity and the damn acrobatics.

[Gamer790]

I read Retribution. I'm still wondering where the badass they introduced in that novel was supposed to be in Mass Effect 3.  Also he looks like a rejected, final fantasy, character design.

Modifié par Gamer790, 22 avril 2012 - 03:05 .

[Naughty Bear]

I have not read the books but from playing ME3, he is a really obvious Asian stereotype. A god damn space ninja with a blood sword! In space!

He even does martial arts for crying out loud. Bioware might as well gave him a calculator and allow him to perform maths while muttering equations and fighting Shepard at the same time.

I was really surprised he did not do those sounds like Liu Kang from Mortal Kombat every time he attacks.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 22 avril 2012 - 02:51 .

[Orkfaeller]

Dont hate him, just think he / his role was incredible boring, I didnt feel a bit intimitated by him.


Edith: Guess one of my problems with him also was that BW tried so desperatly to make him look "cool".

Space Ninja, with Katana black coat and cyber shades doing Backflips.. in space. Really?

Modifié par Orkfaeller, 22 avril 2012 - 03:01 .

[Dion Knightwood]

I just found him forgettable, aside from the annoying invulnerable last point of shielding he has on him once in a while.

[Awookie]

I didnt read the books. 

But I must say, the scenes with him were terrible.  He only won due to plot armor and Shepard's cutscene incompetence.  

Quite contrasting to how badass Shepard is in ME2.  Especially in the Suicide Mission and LoTSB.

Modifié par Awookie, 22 avril 2012 - 03:12 .

[Teddie Sage]

Didn't belong in this franchise as a whole, in my opinion.

[Amberion]

In Chrono Trigger you could kill Lavos back in the dark ages, if you were sufficiently powerful(from a new game+). This triggered a special ending. It's a pity that Bioware made no effort to do the same. Being able to overwhelm Kai Leng on Thessia, for example, could have bypassed sanctuary, chronos station, and london, and gone right to the citadel, docked the crucible and fired it off before the reapers could take it.

It's great games like Chrono Trigger that make me sad for the missed opportunities in Mass Effect 3.

[coolbeans]

He could have been better integrated if he'd appear, flip around like a hamster having a seizure, wave his sword and be all bad ass, then have Shepherd pull out his gun,shoot him in the face, walk past his twitching corpse and say to a party member "Who the F(£k was that?"

[Ericus]

Remus A wrote...

He was a generic baddie. I didn't think much of him, but I don't hate him either.

Agree with this.  I haven't read the books, so he just came across as a generic assassin.

[aeonlifestream]

In Retribution the character was fine to be honest. You didn't really have an overbearing of 'oh this guy is a badass, he has a sword' and which was fine. (I haven't read Deception yet, waiting for the reprint)

In the game the character model actually looked decent, except the execution was lame. With the Cerberus upgrades he honestly shouldn't have been able to talk, and not having god like powers. If they kept him silent and actually had him appear stealthy like the actually phantoms in the game, it would have been better. Plus the whole scene on Thessia with him is eh.

Modifié par aeonlifestream, 22 avril 2012 - 03:26 .

[I.leary]

I didn't hate him as a character. Actually, I thought he was interesting. Thing is, his 10 inch thick plot armor is really annoying. And the scenes he appears in are heavily rail roaded.

Oh, and I didn't read the novels, nor have the intention to

[IliaLo]

Haven't read the books, so to me KL was, just some male Phantom, with few lines of dialogue.

[Kelwing]

Read the books(except Deception, refuse to) but he was rather stupid in game. Found him to be lackluster and acts like he is someone to be feared when he was anything but,

Modifié par Kelwing, 22 avril 2012 - 03:40 .

[Juha81FIN]

Although I am familiar with Kai Leng, I don't like it that I had go through second hand information to get to know him better, as I haven't read any ME related books or comics. In ME 3 he doesn't speak very much and I had the feeling that he recieved too little screentime in general, as a character he was disappointment for me.

Modifié par Juha81FIN, 22 avril 2012 - 03:46 .

[The Spamming Troll]

i never read the books so kai leng to me is a complete douche bag in ME3.

that email he sends shep.......i mean seriously, what a douche bag.

hes no saren, thats for sure.

[fchopin]

Did not like him and did not read the books.

[TheRealJayDee]

HellbirdIV wrote...

I don't like Kai Leng because;

1. He runs around with a katana and cyber-tech sunglasses in a setting that up until ME3 was fairly realistic in terms of combat gear. (Kinetic barriers are supposed to give you a few extra seconds of protection if you get shot, not make you invulnerable so you can charge people with a ****ing sword that, apparently, is more powerful than bullets)

2. He appeared right the **** out of nowhere two-thirds into the game and his very presence made Shepard act like a blithering idiot (He's on top of the flying car. FLIP IT OVER, IT'S A FLYING CAR) while serving no real purpose other than to introduce a "dragon" to the story (a powerful henchman to the big bad, even though there wasn't one in either ME1 or 2) that didn't need one.

3. He's protected by plot shields and his boss fight on Thessia is very poorly designed. It doesn't feel like he "defeats" you, it feels like you get cheated out of winning by bad writing.

4. He doesn't work as a nemesis to Shepard because he's inept (Thane kicks his ass while half-dead from a terminal disease 6 months overdue to kill him), whiny (he goes "Shut uuuup!" if you talk smack to him) and really, really bad at appearing threatening or clever with his dialogue, unlike Shepard who's actually a functional "Cool badass" (regardless of wether you're Paragon or Renegade) because the voice acting and writing is top notch on Shep. Not anywhere close for Kai Leng.

Spot on. Also cereals.

[BigEvil]

I hate him in ME3. I've not read the books yet, but like others mentioned, from time on the forum I expected a seriously competent badass. Instead, as I said in another topic, Kai Leng is like the Team Rocket of Mass Effect.

Cutscene victories (cheap ones at that) after the player has demolished the enemy in regular combat are an awful curse that I wish would disappear from games. Is it wrong to want a villian that can be a legitimate threat or nemesis without resorting to just pulling a cutscene out of the air to win? They did this well with ME1 and Saren, I never felt I crushed him on Virmire only for the cutscene to turn it on it's head.