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[animadpig]

FBI-Azzurri wrote...

Again, it's not all BioWare's fault that the ending to ME3 was so badly done. EA is the company we should be targeting and thankfully we did just that by voting them the Worst Company in America. EA forced this whole situation upon BioWare to make the ending as open as possible to either make more money off the Mass Effect franchise and its characters with more games like ME4 or to charge people for future ME3 expansions.

EA knows they hit gold with BioWare's Mass Effect series and why would they end the Shepard Story, when they can make more money? The Extended Cut must succeed in order to win back the fans. It has the whole team working on it and it will only show us our war assets actually fighting in the battle and probably will include a lot more of everyone's love interest and squadmates because they know people love the characters the most and by making more scenes with them and having more romance moments with Shepard and the LI, it's a win-win situation to win back fans. There will be a few more Dialogue scenes/Cinematic scenes and maybe more dialogue options for Shepard when he comes face to face with the StarChild. Also, the Extended Cut is free because EA is in damage control mode and they know they need to have the fans and the media back on their side. There will be nothing added after Shepard takes a breath in the rubble because that is the window they created to coninue to make more games and expansions, so sadly this big cliffhanger will remain. Just my honest assumption of what is going on right now and what will go down in this Extended Cut DLC.

Base on what Bioware announced in the PAX 2012, it is difficult to believe that Bioware will give more dialogue options. Obviously, any dialogue option will violate their "artistic integrity."  Same as mention the above, delete of Starchild scence will also against the same issue. Unless, Bioware admit theie mistake otherwise I can not see any possible way to make the current ending more logical from my personal perpestive.  I do hope Bioware/EA take this event seriously because this is about the reputation of Bioware. The possible consequent of failure of the Extended Cut DLC might be fatal to Bioware.

I whish EA can shift the more resoruce to Bioware from the multiple players to achieve the original ME3 endings. If Bioware/EA can not make the fans satistified with the DLC. They might will lose the fans forever. Althought, Bioware/EA can put their focus on those new customers. However, it will be a stupid move because the new customers might buy game from Bioware/EA once and never buy game from Bioware/EA anymore.

[clarkusdarkus]

iVitriol wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

were not being lied too, they have blatantly said there adding to the crap ending so best thing to do is expect crap and hopefully be more at ease with it

Source?

well there adding to the scenes arent they with the EC? 

[kw0lf]

I don't have my hopes up for the Extended Cut. I think they announced it just to buy themselves some time to let this blow over.

[Reptilian Rob]

Probably.

[Nayt Navare]

Well, we shall see; I think they realize they have a large contingent of angry fans at the moment, so hopefully, they will address these concerns satisfactorily.

[liggy002]

Rip504 wrote...

It doesn't matter. A remake,extended cut etc are all fails. ME3 fail. EA fail. Biofail etc.

In all Honesty,the Take Earth Back CG cinematic kills the ending.(CG Take Earth Back is better) It May even be better then the entire game. It is hard to live up to that type of hype/advertisement.

  Yes, it is hard to live up to the hype and advertisement but it can be done.  If you are not going to bother putting forth the effort and living up to the hype, then don't make games at all.  Mass Effect 3 should have had the roll playing elements of ME1:  Mako, choose which main world to go to, deeper dialogue tree but it did not.  It should have been the best game of the series but it wasn't.  ME1 reigns supreme and ME2 was a damn great game.

[clarkusdarkus]

liggy002 wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

It doesn't matter. A remake,extended cut etc are all fails. ME3 fail. EA fail. Biofail etc.

In all Honesty,the Take Earth Back CG cinematic kills the ending.(CG Take Earth Back is better) It May even be better then the entire game. It is hard to live up to that type of hype/advertisement.

  Yes, it is hard to live up to the hype and advertisement but it can be done.  If you are not going to bother putting forth the effort and living up to the hype, then don't make games at all.  Mass Effect 3 should have had the roll playing elements of ME1:  Mako, choose which main world to go to, deeper dialogue tree but it did not.  It should have been the best game of the series but it wasn't.  ME1 reigns supreme and ME2 was a damn great game.

amazing really how ME1 from 5 years ago is more of an RPG than ME3, ME3 should have been epic but it ended up being an epic failure

[clarkusdarkus]

iVitriol wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

iVitriol wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

were not being lied too, they have blatantly said there adding to the crap ending so best thing to do is expect crap and hopefully be more at ease with it

Source?

well there adding to the scenes arent they with the EC? 

We don't know what they are doing.

How many time must I repeat myself?

There has been no official word on what the EC will hold, and taking PR statments at face value will come back to bite you in the ass.

i believe in there q&a's they state there clarifying it so fans who were upset get more closure, as for repeating yourself, how about u get over yourself instead

[RocketManSR2]

It doesn't matter what's in the EC, it will have served it's purpose. EA/BioWare can use it as a defense, "Look what we did for the fans. We even made it free." After it's released, anybody who complains will just appear to be an ungrateful whiner. Hell, to some, we already are.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 22 avril 2012 - 11:40 .

[Taboo]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I think they're trying to "change the ending without changing the ending". Meaning, the Catalyst scene will stay and so will the three options for the final choice, but everything else is up for grabs. The consequences of the choices will be adjusted, there will be more dialogue and exposition, and different kinds of aftermath cutscenes depending on your decisions and EMS, including something reasonably happy in specific circumstances.

The vagueness of the endings might actually work to everyone's advantage. For instance, "the relays aren't destroyed in Control" would be perfectly within the realm of "clarification".

[Velocithon]

All I know is that if Bioware doesn't absolutely blow people's socks off with this DLC, they may as well have never done it. The expectations are stratosphere high. Anything less will be considered a failure by many and will just cause them more harm than good.

[Malanek]

I guess things change as they are developed. Adding multiplayer wasn't a bad thing, it enhanced the game for me. I don't have a problem with things changing in the development process. I am wondering if they have said things that are not true about the extended cut.

[Velocithon]

iVitriol wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

All I know is that if Bioware doesn't absolutely blow people's socks off with this DLC, they may as well have never done it. The expectations are stratosphere high. Anything less will be considered a failure by many and will just cause them more harm than good.

Like many have said before, this will kill BioWare.

Kill may be on overstatment, but may not...

Interest in future DLC will plummet and they just may not make it. Which would be a shame.

And any other trilogy they make, people may not buy knowing that in the end, they'll risk being disappointed.

[Taboo]

iVitriol wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

iVitriol wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

were not being lied too, they have blatantly said there adding to the crap ending so best thing to do is expect crap and hopefully be more at ease with it

Source?

well there adding to the scenes arent they with the EC? 

We don't know what they are doing.

How many time must I repeat myself?

There has been no official word on what the EC will hold, and taking PR statments at face value will come back to bite you in the ass.

I am still literally in awe that people take what the PR statement says at face value and then discard every other statement as illogical. You have NO idea what they are doing.

[shepskisaac]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I think they're trying to "change the ending without changing the ending". Meaning, the Catalyst scene will stay and so will the three options for the final choice, but everything else is up for grabs. The consequences of the choices will be adjusted, there will be more dialogue and exposition, and different kinds of aftermath cutscenes depending on your decisions and EMS, including something reasonably happy in specific circumstances.

The vagueness of the endings might actually work to everyone's advantage. For instance, "the relays aren't destroyed in Control" would be perfectly within the realm of "clarification".

Exactly what I think they're gonna do.

[Taboo]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I think they're trying to "change the ending without changing the ending". Meaning, the Catalyst scene will stay and so will the three options for the final choice, but everything else is up for grabs. The consequences of the choices will be adjusted, there will be more dialogue and exposition, and different kinds of aftermath cutscenes depending on your decisions and EMS, including something reasonably happy in specific circumstances.

The vagueness of the endings might actually work to everyone's advantage. For instance, "the relays aren't destroyed in Control" would be perfectly within the realm of "clarification".

Exactly what I think they're gonna do.

They are going to recoup as many losses as they can by satiating people's emotional complaints. I really truly honestly do not care what happens now so as long as I see Miranda again. It's all about filling the logic gaps with emotional satiation. A reunion would do that for a lot of people.

Mr. Gamble has been responding to tweets not as PR but as a person and it's to the point that it unnerves me a bit. He really seems hurt by what has happened here. All people ever do is throw **** in his face too. He knows he messed up and it shows. He's really stepped up to plate here, moreso than Hudson and Walters.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 22 avril 2012 - 11:59 .

[RocketManSR2]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Mr. Gamble has been responding to tweets not as PR but as a person and it's to the point that it unnerves me a bit. He really seems hurt by what has happened here. All people ever do is throw **** in his face too. He knows he messed up and it shows. He's really stepped up to plate here, moreso than Hudson and Walters.

Who are nowhere to be found. Casey and Mac are apparently quite content to let others take the heat for decisions they possibly made without the team's input. That sure as hell better not be the case. That's not fair to Mike and the others.

[Taboo]

The only marketable decision I would make would be an ending that is perceived as more pleasant. In that regard I mean that Shepard needs to survive and reunite with his friends an LI for the simple reason that people won't care about logic in four or five months. It's a safe investment and something that usually works in films. Producers are wise to take note of this.

Yeah certain things won't be fixed, but the overwhelming sense of dread the game gives me now is unpalatable. I cannot play it in it's current state. It's like an unfinished film.

[Taboo]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Mr. Gamble has been responding to tweets not as PR but as a person and it's to the point that it unnerves me a bit. He really seems hurt by what has happened here. All people ever do is throw **** in his face too. He knows he messed up and it shows. He's really stepped up to plate here, moreso than Hudson and Walters.

Who are nowhere to be found. Casey and Mac are apparently quite content to let others take the heat for decisions they possibly made without the team's input. That sure as hell better not be the case. That's not fair to Mike and the others.

To be honest from what I have inferred from Mr. Gamble's tweets Casey was driving force behind making this DLC free. That's a big freaking deal guys. No it doesn't make everything better but it makes me less suspicious of him. Remember that his credibility as a project director has been hurt here and it will relect on every project he does afterword.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 23 avril 2012 - 12:11 .