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[TrinityDivine]

I think Shale said it best.



(Random conversation between Shale and Morrigan)



Shale: The swamp witch has a great deal in common with my former master.

Morrigan: "The swamp witch"? How original.

S: The swamp witch has the same arrogance, the same air of cruelty. I would hate for it to have possession of my control rod... if it still worked of course.

M: Let me tell you what to do with your control rod, golem.

S: Is it telling me that if the rod did work that it wouldn't want control over me?

M: I wouldn't go as far as that. I could for instance, command you to go and jump in a lake. A very deep lake.

S: It fools no one. The swamp witch would control everything if it could. It would have us all dancing on its strings.

M: Oh, you know me too well, golem. Your revealing gaze has laid me bare.

S: I will be watching the swamp witch. It must not be trusted.

M: (sigh) Now you're beginning to sound just like Alistair.

[cutieyum]

Morrigan was a delightful NPC. Great mage, funny banter, great conversation trees. As a Dalish elf, my PC liked her and her views, except for the one about love and needing others. We disagreed a lot, but never lost our common ground or became pouted about it. We became BFF and she came clean about her reason for joining me. She is going to be the mother of Alistair child, a child I might not be able to give him. He might be conflicted about it, but I know that deep down he wanted her and that she will be a great mother lion. I hope to see Morrigan again, my good friend. I still have lots of gifts for her in my pack.

Addition:

On the Circle of Magi. Morrigan states that she has no respect for those who allow themselves to be slaven or those who can become out-of-control abominations. Sure, her mother is one, but not a murderous out-of-control one. To her the Circle deserved death, better death than being weak, slaved and possessed. Same thing goes for Connor.

She doesn't like being caged, see Jowan or Sten. Or the persuasion check on Carridin's Anvil.

I wish that dumb Alistair stopped baiting her with his blindly biased banter, makes my PC embarrassed to be sleeping with him. Damn you Zev, why did you show up sooo late.

Modifié par cutieyum, 09 décembre 2009 - 01:04 .

[Hardin4188]

The only reason why I keep Morrigan around is because she's voiced by Claudia Black and she is useful in a fight. She disapproves of everything I do, but I can still win her over with jewelry. How shallow is that? Someone said that Leliana is a sheep because she follows the Chantry's beliefs, but Morrigan is the real sheep that has been taught by her abomination of a mother. She is more close minded than you think. Killing the mages because they live in the circle? There is no need for that. I would fear a world that had more women like Morrigan.

Modifié par Hardin4188, 08 décembre 2009 - 06:25 .

[Laurelinde]

May I ask why this is aimed only at women? Why is it that if a woman ever doesn't love another woman to death, she's automatically jealous? I get so tired of that. I am actually capable of realising when I am jealous of someone/something, and armchair psychology is lame.



FWIW: I liked Morrigan as a character, and she's very pretty, but I don't think I'd really want to be like her. I think she is ultimately quite lonely and not very happy, to tell the truth.

[supersweetjay]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

She is honest, always says what she means about people.

She gives jaded opinions and uses her smile to manipulate your reaction.

She has strong integrity.

She will kill you without hesitation if you stand in the way of her goals.

She uses sarcasm, considered intelligent and witty humor by most.

"Sarcasm is not the rapier of wit its wielders seem to believe it to be,
but merely a club: it may, by dint of brute force, occasionally raise
bruises, but it never cuts or pierces."

She know what she wants and how to enjoy life.

She will tell you what you need to hear in her sultry voice while flashing her side-boob and licking her lips to get it, too.

She spits in the face of religion and people living in its lies,  she hates the weakminded feeble sheep that follows such stupidity. Meaning she is strongwilled and sees the world for what it is.

The absolute faith that religion is useless is, ironically, religious.

She is surprisingly sane and lively for growing up in the middle of a swamp with a maleficar shapeshifter as a mother. Consider you going through the same.

Sane? Or as good at hiding her rage and malice as she is at hiding her form while she "innocently" ran from templars?

She has one of the greatest traits of wisdom a person can possess, critical thinking.

I'll give you that.

Allthough she seeks immortality (wont spoil how here) who wouldnt? Its self preservation and anyone would do the same. Unless they are some self rightious idiot (Yes you would have to be an idiot to turn down immortality, and royally so)

Why would turning down immortality make you an idiot? You cannot know the end of time, perhaps it's not so peachy?

I cant understand how people can NOT like morrigan. She is a great person and though she has her faults she possess strength and spirit like few real world girls has these days. The "Badgirl" image isnt that major imo.

She's not your classic hotty bad girl. She's a manipulative murderer who feigns innocence and chastity when she's helped her mother torture and kill, and even got a man slain by a mob so that she could live.

Seeing the either "Hate or like" view on her id say the devs did a tremendous job making her. But i cant help to see her good traits overshadowing her bad traits by a huuuuuge margin. I think girls that dont like her personality is jealous of her intelligence, sharpness of mind and strength to stand up for herself.

Morrigan's an evil succubus! Her only soft moment is when you bring her that golden mirror. In every way, she's exactly like the desire demon in the CoM, except she can't control your mind. E-VILLE!!

[screwoffreg]

When the Templars lead the Exalted March against Morrigan and her child my character will be at the front of the army. In a sense, she is a face that will launch a thousand ships, except in this case to end her.

[adembroski11]

Laurelinde wrote...

May I ask why this is aimed only at women? Why is it that if a woman ever doesn't love another woman to death, she's automatically jealous? I get so tired of that. I am actually capable of realising when I am jealous of someone/something, and armchair psychology is lame.

Because we're all evil conservative bigots, of course. Or maybe because the conversation is about Morrigan and Morrigan is, so far as I know, a woman?

The only reason why I keep Morrigan
around is because she's voiced by Claudia Black and she is useful in a
fight. She disapproves of everything I do, but I can still win her over
with jewelry. How shallow is that? Someone said that Leliana is a sheep
because she follows the Chantry's beliefs, but Morrigan is the real
sheep that has been taught by her abomination of a mother. She is more
close minded than you think. Killing the mages because they live in the
circle? There is no need for that. I would fear a world that had more
women like Morrigan.

Very good post. Morrigan reminds me of a modern "Punk"... a whole bunch of people who pride themselves on non-conformity, but all dress, act, and think the same.

Ultimately, all Morrigan is is a Raistlin-esque dark hero. Not really an anti-hero in the strictest sense of the word because an anti-hero is usually motivated by some twisted sense of justice, where as Morrigan's aims appear to be purely selfish. She has a sex appeal that goes beyond her looks because she's not just attractive, but also somewhat exciting.

I do know someone a lot like Morrigan. When I first met her, she intrigued me because she was extremely sexy yet somehow untouchable. She played with me a bit. I finally got to kiss her... doing 80 on an interstate... and we had sex for the first time about 15 feet from her sick, sleeping husband. Of course, I thought I loved her, and she said she loved me... then she disappeared for 6 months (I found out later she was stripping in Las Vegas in that time). Truth was I was infatuated with the way she made me feel... the sexual excitement. It turned out she was a huge racist in the long run and that's what woke me up (I had always suspected, but when the SS bolts were tattooed on the back of her neck, the denial was over). My best friend is Sioux, so I really can't abide that. 

[Statulos]

Talking about the mirror (and other deep-touching gifts); it would be cool if the sequel features character continuity that those gifts were remembered. I mean, Morrigan accepting that you "destroyed her" by giving her a symbol of what her life could have been or Alistair having the shield of Duncan to propperly give him a funeral (perhaps just a cenotaph but...) or him still holding his mother´s pendand and still thanking you for it.

For Adembroski; sir, how many punks have you met that do not get their stuff in Hot Topic? Because most of my pals are punks and well, the variety in their styles, walks of life, interests, and attitudes is huge. But well, those are Spanish and not US punks, so maybe there´s a sort of cultural difference.

In that sense, yeah, apostates in general look to me like all my punk pals and guys I know: some of them are cool, compasionate people I love and some others are just douches.

Modifié par Statulos, 08 décembre 2009 - 06:57 .

[Chragen]

I really like Morrigan, but what annoys me is she disapproves on a lot of things because there isn't an option to reason why you do a lot of things. Like helping out Redcliffe. I did that just for profit(and experience) and to to use Redcliffe against the Blight. Since at this point you do not know if the Arl is even alive.

But the only option you get is either. You're saving Redcliffe because it's the right thing to do or nothing.

[adembroski11]

Statulos wrote...

Talking about the mirror (and other deep-touching gifts); it would be cool if the sequel features character continuity that those gifts were remembered. I mean, Morrigan accepting that you "destroyed her" by giving her a symbol of what her life could have been or Alistair having the shield of Duncan to propperly give him a funeral (perhaps just a cenotaph but...) or him still holding his mother´s pendand and still thanking you for it.

For Adembroski; sir, how many punks have you met that do not get their stuff in Hot Topic? Because most of my pals are punks and well, the variety in their styles, walks of life, interests, and attitudes is huge. But well, those are Spanish and not US punks, so maybe there´s a sort of cultural difference.

I should have explained myself better. If I fall into any specific subculture, I'd say punk would be the one, which is why I feel comfortable criticizing the subculture in general terms. You're right, there is plenty of diversity within punk culture, but every subculture has it's outlying "dabblers", so to speak, and I've found that a greater percentage of punks are of that strain than most punks. A lot of people I know are sort of Boston-style skinheads (not the neo-**** kind), which they themselves consider a strain of punk, though they don't look much like the accepted norm. Where as the typical punk is typified by chains and peircings, the occassional mohawk (The London Punk), most of my friends are of the Pint-O'-Guinness, Newsboy cap types who tend toward Libertarian political views rather than being pseudo Socialist-Anarchists.

I'm not trying to call out punks... again, I am one... just saying that conforming to a non-conformist subculture is still conformity.

Modifié par adembroski11, 08 décembre 2009 - 07:13 .

[adembroski11]

Oh, btw, my own "politics of Fereden" views is that the Chantry violates the rights of Apostates, but that the regulation of Blood Magic is necessary. Thus, the Circle should be a voluntary order, an arm of the Chantry, that specializes in seeking out and bringing Malifacars to justice.

[Vidar81]

adembroski11 wrote...

Oh, btw, my own "politics of Fereden" views is that the Chantry violates the rights of Apostates, but that the regulation of Blood Magic is necessary. Thus, the Circle should be a voluntary order, an arm of the Chantry, that specializes in seeking out and bringing Malifacars to justice.

I don't think blood magic should be regulated. abominations obviously need put down, but the only reason the templars fear blood magic is because they want to control everything and it's much harder to control blood magic users. I sometimes wonder when i'm running through the tower if the situation would have happened at all if the templars weren't such intolerant d*cks.
After seeing how the templars treat mages, reading codex and talking to Dalish about the loss of the Dales, and reading an ending were the Chantry was considering a march on the dwarves for having their own mage tower outside chantry control it is obvious what the real goals of this organization are and I have a hard time not destroying the ashes when i get to that part of the game. I really hope Dragon Age 2 gives the option to help destroy the chantry and bring back worship of the old gods that would be awesome

[Laurelinde]

adembroski11 wrote...

Laurelinde wrote...

May I ask why this is aimed only at women? Why is it that if a woman ever doesn't love another woman to death, she's automatically jealous? I get so tired of that. I am actually capable of realising when I am jealous of someone/something, and armchair psychology is lame.

Because we're all evil conservative bigots, of course. Or maybe because the conversation is about Morrigan and Morrigan is, so far as I know, a woman?

And women can only envy other women, and men can only envy other men?  And why is the OP not taking men who don't like Morrigan to task int he same way?  That's what I'm objecting to here, because 'jealousy' of other women is something that is thrown around willy-nilly, and not just on this forum.

[Layn]

Vidar81 wrote...
I have a hard time not destroying the ashes when i get to that part of the game. I really hope Dragon Age 2 gives the option to help destroy the chantry and bring back worship of the old gods that would be awesome

i hope too that there is such a choice, but i wouldn't take it. destroying the ashes is wrong, because a) vandalism it's got friggin healing powers!!!. and while the chantry isn't really a beacon of good (christianity wasn't/isn't much better) it did give shelter to those who needed it, and thats a good thing. Exalted marches and controlling other people however? BAD

Modifié par Crrash, 08 décembre 2009 - 07:58 .

[Hardin4188]

I think the Chantry's regulation is a good thing. The trouble in the tower shows that the templars were getting slack. Maybe apostates shouldn't be hunted down, but they definitely should eliminate blood mages. They are too dangerous to keep around.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Vidar81 wrote...
I don't think blood magic should be regulated. abominations obviously need put down, but the only reason the templars fear blood magic is because they want to control everything and it's much harder to control blood magic users. I sometimes wonder when i'm running through the tower if the situation would have happened at all if the templars weren't such intolerant d*cks.
After seeing how the templars treat mages, reading codex and talking to Dalish about the loss of the Dales, and reading an ending were the Chantry was considering a march on the dwarves for having their own mage tower outside chantry control it is obvious what the real goals of this organization are and I have a hard time not destroying the ashes when i get to that part of the game. I really hope Dragon Age 2 gives the option to help destroy the chantry and bring back worship of the old gods that would be awesome

Pffft.
C'mon. Blood magic has to be controled. No sane government would let people with mind-control abiltiy run around freely. NOT ONE. That's just basic common sense.
Heck, no sane government would let mages stroll around freely anymore than it would let epople with bazookas stroll around the streets.
And the templars portrayed in game really don't come off as dicks. Quite the contrary.

[Jwade86]

Statulos wrote...

Ayn Rand´s bs is just that, bs. If every human followed a purely nihilist approach to life we´d still be living in caves.

Oh come now, Ayn Rand is an amazing intellectual. Have you even read Atlas Shrugged? Its 1000 pages of perfection. lol

[Alex Savchovsky]

Hardin4188 wrote...

I think the Chantry's regulation is a good thing. The trouble in the tower shows that the templars were getting slack. Maybe apostates shouldn't be hunted down, but they definitely should eliminate blood mages. They are too dangerous to keep around.

I think it's not. That's why I had the Circle freed from the templar's supervision.

[adembroski11]

Jwade86 wrote...

Statulos wrote...

Ayn Rand´s bs is just that, bs. If every human followed a purely nihilist approach to life we´d still be living in caves.

Oh come now, Ayn Rand is an amazing intellectual. Have you even read Atlas Shrugged? Its 1000 pages of perfection. lol

Ayn Rand was a genius, though I don't agree with Objectivism in it's entirety. Ayn Rand was not a nihilist, she's an Objectivist... very big difference. A nihilist believes in, when you get down to the brass tacks of it, nothing. Ayn Rand believed in the sovereignty of the individual. There's a very strict morality to Objectivism... the fact that it's not a theologic morality does not make it nihilistic.

While I'm not an Objectivist myself, Objectivism has one of the most demonstrably consistant moral codes you can find.

I think the Ayn Rand comparisons are coming from A.) Morrigan's firm belief in personal freedom and B.) her Atheism. While these are valid comparisons, there's a difference between Ayn Rand's very positive, optimistic view of responsible self-interest and Adam Smith's somewhat defeatest view that freedom is the only way to allow man's selfishness to benefit society at large. Morrigan's views are closer to Adam Smith's.

That said, I don't see Morrigan as strictly Libertarian. She reminds me of people who look at oppressed people in, say, Iran, China, or North Korea and make the claim that their culture does not allow for freedom or that they don't want freedom. She seems to look down on the oppressed as somehow deserving of their bondage simply for being in bondage, and this is typically a view you get out of isolationist leftists, not Civil Libertarians and Social Capitalists like Rand and Smith.

Modifié par adembroski11, 08 décembre 2009 - 09:00 .

[noretus]

A lot of fine points made against Morrigan already, but I'm gonna tangle one in specific:



The claim that she is intelligent. Uh, no, I don't think so. If indeed her ultimate goal was to create some demon spawn of a fetus, she sure does a poor job at getting my character to do the dirty with her. If she was truely intelligent and half as skilled manipulator as she likes to think she is, she would have done her best to get my character to like her and even fall in love with her.

Most certainly, she shouldn't have started to act like a complete evil **** the moment we meet.

If I was her, I would've done my best to accommodate my behaviour to the hero's. If the hero is a goody two shoes, I'd pretend to be one as well and at least feign giving intelligent advice. If the hero spares the lives of those bandits in Lothering and gets the merchant to lower his prices, I'd compliment him. I would NOT keep making fun of Alistair, I'd be kind to him as well. In general, I'd try my best to be kind and supportive and throw in a few flirty lines every now and then. I'd try to be well liked in the party so that the hero would have as little doubt as possible about my ultimate goals.

Most certainly, when the time comes to do the ritual, I would definitely not tell the hero that this was the true reason I was sent along. I'd cry and beg the hero to do this because he means so much to me and I don't want to see him die. I would feed him lies about how I can force a miscarriage or something and get rid of the demonspawn without anyone having to give their life for it. I sure as heck would NOT tell the hero that I plan on making off with the baby to raise it to be some ultimate spawn of evil. Even if the hero refuses, I could try to fall back on Alistair ( to whom I would have been kind as well like I said ). After the ritual is done, I could play along as long as needed and then make off with my mission accomplished and the hero feeling quite the fool.



Everything else aside, if she had actually gone about her mission in this way, I would like the character. I would have been impressed. Now I see her as nothing more then an emotionally confused simpleton full of empty boasts and tired behaviour patterns that aren't helpful to anyone, least of all herself.



Shortly put, if she was truely intelligent, she would not hestitate to do what is needed to reach her goals. She would be able to have at least vague idea on how things may play out in the long run depending on how she plays her hand. If she's a mean and annoying **** who constantly whines and second guesses everything the heroe does; surprise, hero won't let her have her demonfetus.

This is actually what I find most irritating about her, since the very first playtime. I got immidiately put off by her moronic comment to Alistair "I can be friendly if I desire to, alas wanting to be more intelligent does not make it so".



That said, oh these kind of people are common in real life. Maybe not exactly same given the cultural differences and such, but crazy women who think they're smarter, more attractive and better manipulators then they really are? Oh, there are plenty.

[noretus]

Damn doublepost.

Modifié par noretus, 08 décembre 2009 - 08:59 .

[Steel Majere343]

Original182 wrote...

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

She is honest, always says what she means about people.

Um she lied to the grey warden about the real purpose of Flemeth saving them. She even did an academy award performance in acting shocked that Flemeth sent her away. So she's about as honest as everyone else, and that doesn't particularly make her unique.

She uses sarcasm, considered intelligent and witty humor by most.

Using sarcasm is actually a sign of weakness, and shows you lack social skills. It's not a good thing.

She spits in the face of religion and people living in its lies,  she hates the weakminded feeble sheep that follows such stupidity. Meaning she is strongwilled and sees the world for what it is.

Spitting in the face of religion isn't a good thing. It shows that you disrespect people who are different from you, or who have different beliefs. Even if you don't believe other people's beliefs, you should respect their right to live the way they want to. Why should Morrigan be respected if she doesn't show respect herself?

More like she is intolerant. Another proof of this is when she thinks all the mages in the Circle Tower should be killed simply for being sheep and because they do not live like her.

She has one of the greatest traits of wisdom a person can possess, critical thinking.

She hates the Chantry, yet has no problem joining forces with the Andraste Cult. More like Morrigan has some case of insanity going on, and if she reveals critical thinking, it is just the case of monkeys and typewriters. Eventually, she WILL say  something that can be considered intelligent. People have even joked with the "Morrigan disapproves" because it is so random and seems to have no logic.

But at best, I don't find her particularly any more intelligent than other people.

Allthough she seeks immortality (wont spoil how here) who wouldnt? Its self preservation and anyone would do the same. Unless they are some self rightious idiot (Yes you would have to be an idiot to turn down immortality, and royally so)

That's more like a case of an intolerant petulant teenager going on. Immortality is cool, and if people disagree, they are idiots and self-righteous. Therefore I'm right. Me me me me me me me.

I cant understand how people can NOT like morrigan. She is a great person and though she has her faults she possess strength and spirit like few real world girls has these days. The "Badgirl" image isnt that major imo.

Seeing the either "Hate or like" view on her id say the devs did a tremendous job making her. But i cant help to see her good traits overshadowing her bad traits by a huuuuuge margin. I think girls that dont like her personality is jealous of her intelligence, sharpness of mind and strength to stand up for herself.

People seem to confuse being rebellious, rude and obnoxious as strong. It's more like people haven't outgrown their teenager angst. It's not a good thing.

I consider Morrigan damaged goods due to being abused by her mother, to the point where she even thinks love is a weakness. It's not her fault that she thinks that way due to her upbringing, but it's not right all the same.

In the end, it's all a matter of opinion.

i dont believe she expected her mother to send her off actually. correct me if im wrong but i did her side quest and all and i never once heard her say that she knew about that. she always said "perhaps" that was mothers wish and so on.

she didnt actually want to leave the forest i dont believe, and i havnt even heard about any immortality thing..and i beat the game..and gave her a child, so im unsure as to where that springs up. As far as i know the OP is pretty much right (although she does have some flaws she is pretty self confident and i didnt get any feel that she was insecure with herself other then when she spoke about love maybe twice in the entire game. and she wanted to side with andrastes cult because they would be usefull, which they were, and NOT because she was insane and thought their views were somehow right).

in general id say as long as your not religious and you like sarcasm shed probly be a good friend in RL. shes pretty honest from what i can tell she speaks her mind.

but i AM religious, and i am christian no less  (not the kind that will beat your @## with a bible mind you but i believe no less). So in RL shed probly be a bit of a %#*@ to me but other then that, she seems cool.

[Steel Majere343]

noretus wrote...

A lot of fine points made against Morrigan already, but I'm gonna tangle one in specific:

The claim that she is intelligent. Uh, no, I don't think so. If indeed her ultimate goal was to create some demon spawn of a fetus, she sure does a poor job at getting my character to do the dirty with her. If she was truely intelligent and half as skilled manipulator as she likes to think she is, she would have done her best to get my character to like her and even fall in love with her.
Most certainly, she shouldn't have started to act like a complete evil **** the moment we meet.
If I was her, I would've done my best to accommodate my behaviour to the hero's. If the hero is a goody two shoes, I'd pretend to be one as well and at least feign giving intelligent advice. If the hero spares the lives of those bandits in Lothering and gets the merchant to lower his prices, I'd compliment him. I would NOT keep making fun of Alistair, I'd be kind to him as well. In general, I'd try my best to be kind and supportive and throw in a few flirty lines every now and then. I'd try to be well liked in the party so that the hero would have as little doubt as possible about my ultimate goals.
Most certainly, when the time comes to do the ritual, I would definitely not tell the hero that this was the true reason I was sent along. I'd cry and beg the hero to do this because he means so much to me and I don't want to see him die. I would feed him lies about how I can force a miscarriage or something and get rid of the demonspawn without anyone having to give their life for it. I sure as heck would NOT tell the hero that I plan on making off with the baby to raise it to be some ultimate spawn of evil. Even if the hero refuses, I could try to fall back on Alistair ( to whom I would have been kind as well like I said ). After the ritual is done, I could play along as long as needed and then make off with my mission accomplished and the hero feeling quite the fool.

Everything else aside, if she had actually gone about her mission in this way, I would like the character. I would have been impressed. Now I see her as nothing more then an emotionally confused simpleton full of empty boasts and tired behaviour patterns that aren't helpful to anyone, least of all herself.

Shortly put, if she was truely intelligent, she would not hestitate to do what is needed to reach her goals. She would be able to have at least vague idea on how things may play out in the long run depending on how she plays her hand. If she's a mean and annoying **** who constantly whines and second guesses everything the heroe does; surprise, hero won't let her have her demonfetus.
This is actually what I find most irritating about her, since the very first playtime. I got immidiately put off by her moronic comment to Alistair "I can be friendly if I desire to, alas wanting to be more intelligent does not make it so".

That said, oh these kind of people are common in real life. Maybe not exactly same given the cultural differences and such, but crazy women who think they're smarter, more attractive and better manipulators then they really are? Oh, there are plenty.

in response to this i think you should think it through a tad bit more, youv got it quit confused. Morrigan actually (at least if your in a romance with her) does say that she wants to protect you from death, and she also states (if you ask her) that the baby will not be a demonspawn but it will be otherwise normal other then having a gods soul. It is not a demons soul mind you it is the original old gods soul. It is pure, like she says she only wants the soul BEFORE it was tainted. so, in essence, she has a fairly holy baby, not a demonspawn.

again she states multiple times that she wants to do this for the heros sake, not to mention she never says anything about wanting to do that all along, she says maybe thats what her mother planned but otherwise there is no evidence to support that this plan was thought up in advance.

on top of all this dont you think she told the hero the truth maybe..because theres a part of her that cares? she could have not told him as you say, she is intelligent, but instead she tells him what will happen and is completely willing to answer any questions about the baby and the ritual.

so i think your pretty misguided

[Red Viking]

I wonder how many people here would actually associate with Morrigan if she were a real person. She's great as a character in a video game, but, in real life, what she does translates into a very selfish and toxic personality.