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[aternak]

This is always hilarious and happens in every multiplayer game where some statistics are available.

"I cannot gain a score this high, or imagine that someone could, therefore it is cheating."

Just try to remember that generally in life, whatever you are doing (and however well you think you are doing it), somebody else in the world is doing it better.

Modifié par aternak, 23 avril 2012 - 05:16 .

[Variasaber]

I checked the PC global leaderboards the other day out of curiosity. The top ~1000 players have an N7 rank of 1000 or higher; at the time, it was slightly less than the top 1000, about 995 or so. The #1 guy had a rank of over 15000, which was almost definitely gained by hacking because the #2 guy was in the 8000s, as well as the next several.

Honestly though, I don't see why anyone cares about leaderboards if they themselves aren't in the top 20 or so. When you're number thirty-thousand-and-whatever, the leaderboards honestly don't seem to matter very much, at least to me.

AeonFrog wrote...

The N7 rating isn't an indicator of skill in the slightest, it just shows who's played longer/paid more money.

Though not a perfect indicator, it can help somewhat; if someone has an N7 rank of less than 10, it's pretty clear that they've only played a couple of matches at most (unless their rank was somehow reset), and someone with 1000+ rank probably has more experience than someone with 100-200 rank. But your point is valid nonetheless; someone in the 300s is not necessarily a better player than someone in the 200s.
What's really wrong, but still common, is judging ability based on the level of the class they've chosen. I've played with level 20s that failed Bronze (I had just promoted so at least I had something of an excuse), and I've encountered someone on the forums here that claims to be able to hold their own on Gold while at level 10 (fairly impressive if it was truthful; I've got a few level 20 characters but almost always play Silver with them).

Freakiq wrote...

jahaa wrote...

I don't
know if he's cheating or not and i don't care, but everytime i see a
rank +1000 i laugh because it looks nerdy and ridiculous.

Ah yes, if someone's worse than you they're a noob and if they're better than you they have no life. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie]

This, heh. People need to get over themselves.

aternak wrote...

Just try to remember that generally in
life, whatever you are doing (and however well you think you are doing
it), somebody else in the world is doing it better.

Words of wisdom indeed, especially if you also keep in mind that just because someone else is better doesn't mean that you cannot also be good enough for yourself.

Modifié par Variasaber, 23 avril 2012 - 05:35 .

[FROST4584]

Honestly, why does this game have a leaderboard? I mean, N7 ranking means nothing. It would have been better to have a personal stat sheet.

Modifié par FROST4584, 23 avril 2012 - 06:04 .

[AldarionnEB]

A better set of metrics for a leaderboard to determine player skill would be medals, or just a straight counter of what those medals track:

--How many headshot medals does he have?
--How many revive medals does he have?
--How many melee kill medals does he have?
--How many grab medals does he have?
--How many 75+ Kill medals does he have?
--What percentage of his games were on Bronze/Silver/Gold?
--What is his favored map? Favored Enemy? Favored class? Favored Weapon?
--Number of successful matches against each enemy on each map?

All of those numbers are easily tracked, and those statistics would give a far better picture of how good a player someone is rather than their N7 rank.

If I see two players in a lobby and one has N7 rank 120 with a favored class of Infiltrator, multiple 75+ kill medals and a bunch of headshot medals, revive medals, etc...and another with N7 1000 and a favored class of Vanguard and no kill medals over 25, and no other medals, I'm gonna know which of the two is the better player and which of the two just goes through the motions and promotes.

Modifié par AldarionnEB, 23 avril 2012 - 08:42 .

[Axialbloom]

He is a hacker. They are all hacking enemies now to die instantly, and credits to give millions. They then promote everything over and over.

[Sephorai]

DangerKnerd wrote...

I wanted to add a little math.

It takes me about 11 games to get from level 1 to level 20.
That will give me 30 N7 rating if i promote.
1 game takes about 20 minuts.
11 games then takes about 3.7 hrs.
At N7 7652 he must have promoted roughly 255 times.
Thats 255*3.7=944 hrs = 39 days or 58 days if you need 8 hrs sleep.

Considering that the game have been online for 49 days, and that you still need time between games to find groups, its possible but highly unlikely...

you didnt include xp from characters u get from packs 

Modifié par Sephorai, 23 avril 2012 - 08:44 .

[AldarionnEB]

Axialbloom wrote...

He is a hacker. They are all hacking enemies now to die instantly, and credits to give millions. They then promote everything over and over.

See, do you have ANY evidence to support this at all, or are you just saying that because they have what appears to be an absurd N7 rank? Just because what it would take to get that N7 rank appears to require a major time investment does NOT mean someone didn't do it legtimiately. Hell, 3-4 people working in shifts could easily break it up into a manageable amount of time.

I used to paly WoW, religiously, and when an expansion released that raised the level cap I would wonder how someone would get to max level within 24 hours. It ALWAYS happened on every server, because people wanted the Server First achievement for their race/class/etc...It didn't seem possible so everyone accused them of hacking. How they actually did it was to have multiple characters go into a zone and one guy would engage all of the enemies, then everyone would help him kill them. He would get all the XP and it would take a tenth of the time for him to level up as it took everyone else. It's the same principle here, just using a different mechanic. A group of people working together are splitting the time investment in order to have a bigger combined E-Peen than anyone else.

[a ViciousFerret]

If you credit glitched for hours each day, and bought packs and then promoted characters after getting x amount of packs, you can level your N7 up pretty fast.

That is probably all you are seeing.

[bclagge]

AldarionnEB wrote...
See, do you have ANY evidence to support this at all, or are you just saying that because they have what appears to be an absurd N7 rank? Just because what it would take to get that N7 rank appears to require a major time investment does NOT mean someone didn't do it legtimiately. Hell, 3-4 people working in shifts could easily break it up into a manageable amount of time.

His post is so off the wall I have to assume he's joking, despite the lack of a smiley.

[atum]

Like 20 years ago I once entered my initials for getting in the top ten at the local candy shop that had a streetfighter machine.

You know you're jelly.

[AldarionnEB]

atum wrote...

Like 20 years ago I once entered my initials for getting in the top ten at the local candy shop that had a streetfighter machine.

You know you're jelly.

I once filled all 10 of the top 10 spots on the Point Blank machine at the Pizza Parlor near my house. It also had an AVP machine, and a friend and I used to 1 up eachother on high scores every time we were there. He eventually bought the AVP machine from them. Still has it in his garage. Good times. Gooooood times.

[CenturyCrow]

Could be that instead of visiting forums and discussing stats, she or he just plays games.

Encountered someone at 2600+ and 2 days later was almost 2800 and an exceptional player. He plays gold with a select group and silver on pub. He mentioned he knew someone with over 4600+    So it's entirely possible to have a legit high N7 rating because you like the game and play it a lot.

[Scorpgul]

7652 is very possible if the guy is a complete nolifer, spent hundreds of dollars on packs and has nothing else to do. He might have hacked his way up but I doubt it

[Highlord Heian]

brodie440 wrote...

 LOL Bioware do you check the Leader boards of the mass effect 3 multiplayer for PC....... It's honestly funny that this individual at number one with 7652 N7 rank is not banned yet as that is virtually impossible to achieve at this time.
If you compare this to the leader boards of ps3/sexbox 360 then it is obvious that he is hacking....
honestly Bioware i love you but this is getting out of hand with the PC game and cheaters.
Also i would like to suggest to you a new cheat detecting system...... Now i know it might sound stupid but its worth a shot and by the way i have never coded in my life.
ok so my idea for stopping cheaters that modify the coalesced.bin file is that you make a system that detects if the players coalesced.bin file is modified...... If it is modified and the player is online on origin then make the game crash on startup or cancel launch or give them an error saying cannot launch due to modified coalesced.bin or something.
Well that was just my idea.

Stay in school, kids.

[Nissun]

Maybe the highest ranking player is actually a group of 20 guys that live on a house, and they have one computer, and they all play in that computer on the same account taking turns all day.

[atum]

AldarionnEB wrote...

atum wrote...

Like 20 years ago I once entered my initials for getting in the top ten at the local candy shop that had a streetfighter machine.

You know you're jelly.

I once filled all 10 of the top 10 spots on the Point Blank machine at the Pizza Parlor near my house. It also had an AVP machine, and a friend and I used to 1 up eachother on high scores every time we were there. He eventually bought the AVP machine from them. Still has it in his garage. Good times. Gooooood times.

OK, now I'm jelly.

[ittarter]

DangerKnerd wrote...

I wanted to add a little math.

It takes me about 11 games to get from level 1 to level 20.
That will give me 30 N7 rating if i promote.
1 game takes about 20 minuts.
11 games then takes about 3.7 hrs.
At N7 7652 he must have promoted roughly 255 times.
Thats 255*3.7=944 hrs = 39 days or 58 days if you need 8 hrs sleep.

Considering that the game have been online for 49 days, and that you still need time between games to find groups, its possible but highly unlikely...

This. I would have done this but thankfully someone already has. Rock on, DangerKnerd.

[datako12]

ittarter wrote...

DangerKnerd wrote...

I wanted to add a little math.

It takes me about 11 games to get from level 1 to level 20.
That will give me 30 N7 rating if i promote.
1 game takes about 20 minuts.
11 games then takes about 3.7 hrs.
At N7 7652 he must have promoted roughly 255 times.
Thats 255*3.7=944 hrs = 39 days or 58 days if you need 8 hrs sleep.

Considering that the game have been online for 49 days, and that you still need time between games to find groups, its possible but highly unlikely...

This. I would have done this but thankfully someone already has. Rock on, DangerKnerd.

he is forgetting 2 major things though, the character cards that have already been mentioned, and the fact that there have been several bonus xp weekends so far, 2 of them at 25% and another 2 at 10% i believe, those right there significantly cut down on the amount of time.

and if you're doing straight gold games its only about 3 hours per 30 n7.
and i know for a fact that the top guy on xbox is a pair of brothers, i would assume that the top guys on all of the platforms function in a similar manner using multiple people on one account

[Drummernate]

Totally possible.

Hack the gamefiles to have infinite objective waves where the timer is stopped.... play until you get enough to get to level 20..... die.

Repeat.

Or better yet, as most of you pro-glitchers like to say...

"If it doesn't directly affect you, why do you care?"

Maybe he found a glitch that lets you re-level instantly?

Would you be all for  that glitch too?....

Some people... -.-

Modifié par Drummernate, 24 avril 2012 - 04:12 .

[Blest HR]

people really have no logic in what there saying about the cards. If you purchase a spectre pack you will only get 100,000 exp pair card it would take 5 cards at the high levels to level up which would be 60000 credits x5 = 300,000 credits and that if you get the card 5 times in a row for that character type. Yea cards help with the ranking up but not as much as every 1 is working it out to be. Infact it's only a small portion towards the ranking up. So trying to rank up that way would take twice as long as just ranking up normal. I will normally promote a character about 4-5 times before it would promote 1 character up to level 20

Modifié par Blest HR, 24 avril 2012 - 05:35 .

[Blest HR]

as for the pc users it would be easy for them to get a n7 rank over 8000 because the likely have about 6 people who take shifts playing the account by signing into it from different places. So the account would never stop playing at any time.

[ittarter]

he is forgetting 2 major things though, the character cards that have already been mentioned, and the fact that there have been several bonus xp weekends so far, 2 of them at 25% and another 2 at 10% i believe, those right there significantly cut down on the amount of time.

Insignificant.

and if you're doing straight gold games its only about 3 hours per 30 n7.
and i know for a fact that the top guy on xbox is a pair of brothers, i would assume that the top guys on all of the platforms function in a similar manner using multiple people on one account

Significant. Never thought of that. Still, an account being used about 16 hours a day? That is some dedicated college dorm...

Modifié par ittarter, 25 avril 2012 - 02:50 .

[Variasaber]

Is anyone else bothered by the sort of people that, upon seeing/hearing about a highly accomplished player (or really anyone who has done something particularly impressive that must have taken a lot of practice and work and effort) will either accuse them of cheating, or mock them for "having no life"? Can no one get over themselves? I don't expect you to give them huge congratulations or anything, but at least have some common courtesy/respect and quit being such a downer.

atum wrote...

AldarionnEB wrote...

atum wrote...

Like 20 years ago I once entered my initials for getting in the top ten at the local candy shop that had a streetfighter machine.

You know you're jelly.

I once filled all 10 of the top 10 spots on the Point Blank machine at the Pizza Parlor near my house. It also had an AVP machine, and a friend and I used to 1 up eachother on high scores every time we were there. He eventually bought the AVP machine from them. Still has it in his garage. Good times. Gooooood times.

OK, now I'm jelly.

This brightened my day a bit :] You don't hear about high score lists on arcade machines very much these days; by modern standards those are relics of the past. Good stuff.

[mekabar77]

I'm sittting at ~1500 and I'm only playing occasionally besides having a regular day job. Thats with random/random silver/gold matches trying differnt builds, so no FB:W grinding. 7000 k should thus be entirely achieveable by dedicated playing and optimized credit /money spending.

Modifié par mekabar77, 26 avril 2012 - 10:54 .

[Kronner]

How does that affect you in any way? If that guy hacks or not is irrelevant.