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[HolyAvenger]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

[CapnCruuunch]

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

All I want to know is, is it possible to get 4000 EMS in SP alone?

[Czw]

If you were a 360 player I'd gladly carry you through a few games to get 100 readiness. I can easily do bronze without dying and I'm not even a gold player. I'm a silver player who can occasionally do gold with a decent team but I cannot carry a team through gold.

[KiraTsukasa]

CapnCruuunch wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

All I want to know is, is it possible to get 4000 EMS in SP alone?

I had some where between 7800 and 7900 at the end of my play through. I had made poor choices with random citadel choosing sides events and left the rachni queen to die (for fear of losing Grunt) and also recruited Ashley back to the ship (if you station her or Kaidan on the citadel you get war assets from that). There are plenty of war assets to get from single player if you've made the right choices in ME1 and 2.

On PS3 you may not be able to since a few events in ME1 are defaulted automatically and lose you a bunch of war assets in 3.

Modifié par KiraTsukasa, 23 avril 2012 - 05:44 .

[HolyAvenger]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

I had some where between 7800 and 7900 at the end of my play through. I had made poor choices with random citadel choosing sides events and left the rachni queen to die (for fear of losing Grunt) and also recruited Ashley back to the ship (if you station her or Kaidan on the citadel you get war assets from that). There are plenty of war assets to get from single player if you've made the right choices in ME1 and 2.

On PS3 you may not be able to since a few events in ME1 are defaulted automatically and lose you a bunch of war assets in 3.

Screenshot please. 7800 is possible...just

Also, the rachni decision is an either or...if you choose to save her, you lose the points from Aralakh company.

Relevant thread is relevant: http://social.biowar.../index/10481662

If I have been trolled...well played.

Modifié par HolyAvenger, 23 avril 2012 - 05:50 .

[KiraTsukasa]

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

I had some where between 7800 and 7900 at the end of my play through. I had made poor choices with random citadel choosing sides events and left the rachni queen to die (for fear of losing Grunt) and also recruited Ashley back to the ship (if you station her or Kaidan on the citadel you get war assets from that). There are plenty of war assets to get from single player if you've made the right choices in ME1 and 2.

On PS3 you may not be able to since a few events in ME1 are defaulted automatically and lose you a bunch of war assets in 3.

Screenshot please. 7800 is possible...just

Also, the rachni decision is an either or...if you choose to save her, you lose the points from Aralakh company.

Relevant thread is relevant: http://social.biowar.../index/10481662

If I have been trolled...well played.

That's true. But (as I found out later) saving her grants you more war assets than you lost, so long as it was the real rachni queen.

[Incendax]

The singleplayer number you need to shoot for is 8,000 to get the most confusing ending, because 50% readiness brings that down to 4,000. This ending is far from the best ending (I personally favor blue) and requires you to 'save' Anderson. I have never met someone who has attained a single-player only 8,000 EMS, and it is not possible even with a FLAWLESS ME1, ME2, ME3 play through.

Modifié par Incendax, 23 avril 2012 - 06:26 .

[Bioras]

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

And confirmed...you keep forgeting

[Major Durza]

Never played Engineer in SP
"Sentinel" never crossed my mind in SP.

In MP, FAVORITE classes.
I have to admit, the lack of real weapons in the first two games were my main deterrents.
But yea, Infiltrator, Soldier, and Vanguard are fun classes in SP (mostly for role-playing reasons)

I have ranked up all my classes to 20 in MP, some more than once, and found that I liked a lot more of them than I thought I would.

I have a rather good knowledge of all classes, if you want me to teach you you can add me on Origin (if you are on PC)
Really, I love teaching and discussing class and weapon strengths/weaknesses. I think it is getting on my dorm roomate's nerves a bit, so I am trying to find someone to teach.

Add me of you want help. I can eat bronze alive, so if you want to just grind for war assets I can help you there, too.

SMichelle wrote...

Bioras wrote...

I apologize for what I am about to do to anyone that gets stuck with me. I have never played MP before and have NO desire to. However..BW lied and you can NOT get the "best" ending without mp. Thus forcing many of us that don't want to and should NOT be into..MP.
Again...I'm really sorry.

This is my first MP as well (and I played it for the same reasons -to get the "best" ending). However, I found it to be a lot of fun (with the right team) and most people seem to be very nice (although that could be because most don't seem to have a mic on the PC )

Feel free to PM me if you're on the PC and want to join a match. I only play on Bronze, and I'm not great - but I enjoy playing.

Assuming you have comms, I can help. I might be able to help you advance to Silver (roughly double the credits and experience for a full extraction). Plus, more funny moments.
Need to figure out why ME3 does not like my mic, though.
I'm setting up a Teamspeak 3 server from my comp, in case other I play with are as annoyed by the glitchy VOIP.

[planeswalker85]

Bioras wrote...

KTheAlchemist wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

People are still trying to get the best ending? lol

Well, presumably the new ending DLC will take "best possible ending" into account.

I could be wrong, of course.

Hmm, so I am not the only dreamer.

Well, the ending is still bad anyway in my opinion.....

If you need someone to help you through Bronze, just PM me and we can arrange some play throughs, i usually need to lvl up a newly promoted character anyway. EMS isn't that hard to max out, about 10-15 bronze all randoms. Silver is doable but you need other decent players beside me. I would not recommend gold....

[Ravennus]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

CapnCruuunch wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

All I want to know is, is it possible to get 4000 EMS in SP alone?

I had some where between 7800 and 7900 at the end of my play through. I had made poor choices with random citadel choosing sides events and left the rachni queen to die (for fear of losing Grunt) and also recruited Ashley back to the ship (if you station her or Kaidan on the citadel you get war assets from that). There are plenty of war assets to get from single player if you've made the right choices in ME1 and 2.

On PS3 you may not be able to since a few events in ME1 are defaulted automatically and lose you a bunch of war assets in 3.

I'll fall for this....

.... and just assume you are remembering wrong.  You say 'between 7800 and 7900'... that reveals that you are not absolutely certain of your score.  If you are going to stand by this number, please load up the game and check again.
If it's less than that, no harm done, I don't have the best memory either.

But we have datamined the actual game files.  I can send you a spreadsheet that contains every possible asset available with the game we were shipped.
Once we had that info, we found out the absolute max number of assets you could get from a ME1 -> ME2 -> ME3 playthrough.  This meant playing either Paragon or Renegade to get the best number of war assets in the end of ME3.
We also considered that some are mutually exclusive, and factored that in.

With our most ideal playthrough we could not get 7800 or 7900, let alone a playthrough where poor choices were made.


This is a serious issue for many people, and one that EA/Bioware PROMISED us would NOT happen.
There was even a sticky in the General Discussion forum from Jarret Lee saying there were more than enough War Assets in Single Player, until it was recently removed (supposedly due to a 'server hiccup', but that's another story).

One of the very few responses we've recieved from Bioware, other than them flat out telling us we are wrong and to scan more planets (really? really??), is that players like you told them it's possible.
This is a problem, because many people are confused about EMS and TMS, or just misremembering their score and assuming there is enough as long as you just play 'perfectly'.

This is not the case, and it's just confusing an issue that.... frankly.... is almost as cut and dry as it can be.
Check the game files yourself, if you don't believe us.

[Ravennus]

Bioras wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

And confirmed...you keep forgeting

Hey Bioras.... first, welcome to Multiplayer!
I actually find it very fun and have actually found refuge here after the ending turned me off SP so badly.

However, I'm definitely one of those that do not appreciate MP's required impact on SP and it's actually one of my biggest concerns right now.

That said,  I've seen you say a couple times that the issue has been confirmed by the developers and they apologized.... however, I'm not able to find that post.  Could you direct me to it please?

I looked around myself, but I couldn't find anything new.  The mega-thread in General Discussion still seems to think things are quiet as well.

[Major Durza]

Things are not all that bad, MP is an excellent way to learn new classes! I never realized that the Sentinel was so much fun until ME3 MP. I made a sentinel playthrough after playing MP, and loved it. I stopped playing about London, didn't want another dose of plot hole BS, get too much of that from English 102.

Its not that bad, build up a nice friends list and you may find MP enjoyable. Its a good social game. Though if you are on PC you nead Teamspeak, Ventrilo, or some other voice client. The in-game chat system is pretty bad. Not too much of a problem/

[Pekkan]

If you have PC version, you can use Gibbed save game editor if you don't feel like playing multi player. On my first play through I increased the Alliance Engineering Corps power level to over 9000, which gave me enough effective war assets even with just the readiness of 50%.

Raw -> 3. Squad -> Player -> Appearance -> GAW Assets . When you select the GAW assets row, button with three dots ... appears on the right side of (Collection), click on it and you can edit the raw assets.

Now you can edit the unit strenghts, I chose randomly the unit named ID 0 on the editor, that had Strength of 290, and changed that to 9290, it was apparently Alliance Engineering Corps, and that brought my effective war assets high enough.

To have any effect, the editing must be done before the Cerberus space station.

Modifié par Pekkan, 23 avril 2012 - 06:40 .

[Horacio Zhao]

Lynx7725 wrote...

Eh I not sure. I went into my SP final mission with > 7000 EMS, at about 98%, so without MP it would be about 3500.. would that have been sufficient for a good ending?

You really have to run about a lot more, gathering up the Search and Rescue, talking to Civvies, running N7 missions and side quests in order to hit that high. But even with all that done, it's a 40hr run.

No, you'll need 5000 if you destroyed the collector base, or 4000 if you kept it. and yeah, the highst war asset I can get is about 7500.

[KiraTsukasa]

Ravennus wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

CapnCruuunch wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

All I want to know is, is it possible to get 4000 EMS in SP alone?

I had some where between 7800 and 7900 at the end of my play through. I had made poor choices with random citadel choosing sides events and left the rachni queen to die (for fear of losing Grunt) and also recruited Ashley back to the ship (if you station her or Kaidan on the citadel you get war assets from that). There are plenty of war assets to get from single player if you've made the right choices in ME1 and 2.

On PS3 you may not be able to since a few events in ME1 are defaulted automatically and lose you a bunch of war assets in 3.

I'll fall for this....

.... and just assume you are remembering wrong.  You say 'between 7800 and 7900'... that reveals that you are not absolutely certain of your score.  If you are going to stand by this number, please load up the game and check again.
If it's less than that, no harm done, I don't have the best memory either.

But we have datamined the actual game files.  I can send you a spreadsheet that contains every possible asset available with the game we were shipped.
Once we had that info, we found out the absolute max number of assets you could get from a ME1 -> ME2 -> ME3 playthrough.  This meant playing either Paragon or Renegade to get the best number of war assets in the end of ME3.
We also considered that some are mutually exclusive, and factored that in.

With our most ideal playthrough we could not get 7800 or 7900, let alone a playthrough where poor choices were made.


This is a serious issue for many people, and one that EA/Bioware PROMISED us would NOT happen.
There was even a sticky in the General Discussion forum from Jarret Lee saying there were more than enough War Assets in Single Player, until it was recently removed (supposedly due to a 'server hiccup', but that's another story).

One of the very few responses we've recieved from Bioware, other than them flat out telling us we are wrong and to scan more planets (really? really??), is that players like you told them it's possible.
This is a problem, because many people are confused about EMS and TMS, or just misremembering their score and assuming there is enough as long as you just play 'perfectly'.

This is not the case, and it's just confusing an issue that.... frankly.... is almost as cut and dry as it can be.
Check the game files yourself, if you don't believe us.

Currently, it is sitting at 7933. I've promoted twice since I've completed that game and did none before, so that puts my score at 7783. So my memory was off by 17 points, which I'm sure someone will make a huge deal about.

[Artst3in]

.Check the orange-green link in my signature. We can help you with this game and maybe you'll even decide to stay

[Bioras]

Again...a DEV said so.
4k to breath. Yes I know and I have seen it.

[HolyAvenger]

Horacio Zhao wrote...

Lynx7725 wrote...

Eh I not sure. I went into my SP final mission with > 7000 EMS, at about 98%, so without MP it would be about 3500.. would that have been sufficient for a good ending?

You really have to run about a lot more, gathering up the Search and Rescue, talking to Civvies, running N7 missions and side quests in order to hit that high. But even with all that done, it's a 40hr run.

No, you'll need 5000 if you destroyed the collector base, or 4000 if you kept it. and yeah, the highst war asset I can get is about 7500.

 Naw you can get by 4000 if you destroyed, you just need to have had a high rep and picked the paragon/renegade options at right times;)

[Bioras]

However I have to say...the number of players willing to step up to get a girl her ending is...well the players yet again go beyond BW.
Not into MP games, but if any of you want to try Ultima Online...I'll set you up.

[Bioras]

Rave is correct. Tho even I am not sure how the timeline went. I think BW always claimed MP wasn't needed from the start. Then the game came out and a few players did the math. Then a dev admited the math...
This would be a major issue, if people were not so upset over the ending.

[KiraTsukasa]

Bioras wrote...

However I have to say...the number of players willing to step up to get a girl her ending is...well the players yet again go beyond BW.
Not into MP games, but if any of you want to try Ultima Online...I'll set you up.

I highlighted the key reason for that. I'd bet anything that if I had made the same post, there'd be a lot more "L2P" posts.

[Wentletrap]

I'd recommend starting with a class with a long-range spammable power that doesn't require much aiming, and another defensive power (like an Engineer with Overload and Turret). Pick a light weapon like a pistol, so you can cast often, to help you kill things.

(I started with a sniping infiltrator, my favorite class in SP, and found it difficult to get going in MP with it).

Also, rather than selecting "random" enemy / maps, you can choose to fight a particular enemy, on a particular map, until you get the hang of things. (though I think you get less credits / exp? this way, afaik it doesn't affect your galactic readiness).

I'm not great at MP but I got addicted to it, and I am getting better. It's not so bad.

[Darkslayer557]

Bioras wrote...

I apologize for what I am about to do to anyone that gets stuck with me. I have never played MP before and have NO desire to. However..BW lied and you can NOT get the "best" ending without mp. Thus forcing many of us that don't want to and should NOT be into..MP.
Again...I'm really sorry.

What? I got 6400+ before invading illusive man's nest without playing MP for the first playthrough...

[blacksheepD]

Welcome! My advice is to stick with it. I never really played multiplayer in games but did so due to it being 'encouraged' in ME3. Now I love it! The adrenaline you get when you are a newbie is something isn't it? Remember you probably don't have the best weapons or mods yet so it's normal to have some trouble. Just stick with your team, get to know the maps, and don't get Gung-ho.