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[DeliciousBread]

Never be sorry for playing the game. Start slowly on bronze and just try to enjoy yourself. Also, experiment and try different classes. I found myself a hardcore soldier in SP, but in MP, I like infiltrator and adept. MP is all about teamwork. Maybe you aren't the highest scoring and died the most times, but if you can still often contribute a lot by covering your team's flank or being good at picking off the fodder that everybody seems to ignore as soon as an Atlas or Banshee shows up. MP is just the action portion minus all the dialogue and cutscenes

[Acyl]

If the OP's still reading this thread:-

There are some things that work better in multiplayer than singleplayer, for a number of reasons. If you're just starting out, the power-using classes - Adept, Engineer, Sentinel - are easier to use. Why? Four reasons:

1. You're not relying on weapons so much, so the fact you're stuck with basic gear when just starting multiplayer...doesn't matter. You won't be shooting much anyway.
2. You don't need to aim powers so precisely - they track towards the target. This is helpful, because you might lag a lot online, screwing up your aim with guns. Also, you can't pause the game in multiplayer. With a power playstyle, it doesn't matter so much.
3. classes like Soldier, Infiltrator are very different in multiplayer, since there's no slowdown effect. Power classes are basically the same.
4. Biotic and tech combos are very very effective in multiplayer.

Once I realised this, I started playing Adept and Sentinel near-exclusively, killing things with biotic combos. This is particularly effective on the Human Sentinel, since you can Warp+Throw everything for massive damage.

I still use power classes for anything higher than Bronze, because I usually lag in matches. Can't be helped, just where I live.

[john-in-france]

Cyonan wrote...

From what I hear, it is technically possible to get 5000 EMS(The amount required to get the best ending) purely through single-player.

However, to do that you have to pretty much maximize your war assets across all 3 games.

Sadly, no. Best Destroy ending paragon needs 4000 EMS, and as a renegade 5000 EMS. I have played through SP twice, both with ME1/2 maxed paragon/war assets, and the highest EMS I got was 3760. So sadly those of us who want to destroy the reapers and see Shepard live....need to play MP.

OP: If you are playing Bronze there is a group called Bronze Effect for casual players.
http://social.bioware.com/group/7080/

[ApuLunas]

Bioras wrote...

I apologize for what I am about to do to anyone that gets stuck with me. I have never played MP before and have NO desire to. However..BW lied and you can NOT get the "best" ending without mp. Thus forcing many of us that don't want to and should NOT be into..MP.
Again...I'm really sorry.

i hit max readiness without MP... you just fail, it's not fault of BW.

[john-in-france]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

CapnCruuunch wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

All I want to know is, is it possible to get 4000 EMS in SP alone?

I had some where between 7800 and 7900 at the end of my play through. I had made poor choices with random citadel choosing sides events and left the rachni queen to die (for fear of losing Grunt) and also recruited Ashley back to the ship (if you station her or Kaidan on the citadel you get war assets from that). There are plenty of war assets to get from single player if you've made the right choices in ME1 and 2.

On PS3 you may not be able to since a few events in ME1 are defaulted automatically and lose you a bunch of war assets in 3.

You are not quoting EMS. That is the bottom bar, not the top one. It is impossible to get 4000 EMS (That is 8000 in the figures that you are quoting) in single player with an ME1/2 perfect import + all war asssets. That is fact and from the ME wiki.

[KiraTsukasa]

john-in-france wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

CapnCruuunch wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

All I want to know is, is it possible to get 4000 EMS in SP alone?

I had some where between 7800 and 7900 at the end of my play through. I had made poor choices with random citadel choosing sides events and left the rachni queen to die (for fear of losing Grunt) and also recruited Ashley back to the ship (if you station her or Kaidan on the citadel you get war assets from that). There are plenty of war assets to get from single player if you've made the right choices in ME1 and 2.

On PS3 you may not be able to since a few events in ME1 are defaulted automatically and lose you a bunch of war assets in 3.

You are not quoting EMS. That is the bottom bar, not the top one. It is impossible to get 4000 EMS (That is 8000 in the figures that you are quoting) in single player with an ME1/2 perfect import + all war asssets. That is fact and from the ME wiki.

I know exactly what I'm quoting.

[john-in-france]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

CapnCruuunch wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

Lies. Why are people still spreading these lies. People have datamined the game to determine the number of assets and TMS/EMS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO GET 4000 EMS IN SP ALONE.

Sorry for the caps, but peoples till don't seem to get it....

All I want to know is, is it possible to get 4000 EMS in SP alone?

I had some where between 7800 and 7900 at the end of my play through. I had made poor choices with random citadel choosing sides events and left the rachni queen to die (for fear of losing Grunt) and also recruited Ashley back to the ship (if you station her or Kaidan on the citadel you get war assets from that). There are plenty of war assets to get from single player if you've made the right choices in ME1 and 2.

On PS3 you may not be able to since a few events in ME1 are defaulted automatically and lose you a bunch of war assets in 3.

You are not quoting EMS. That is the bottom bar, not the top one. It is impossible to get 4000 EMS (That is 8000 in the figures that you are quoting) in single player with an ME1/2 perfect import + all war asssets. That is fact and from the ME wiki.

I know exactly what I'm quoting.

Of course you do. MP boosts war readiness by a percentage multiplier, thus people who play MP get a bonus.
If you play MP you will never have a problem getting a high EMS.

[Nwalmenil]

Bioras wrote...

Again...a DEV said so.
4k to breath. Yes I know and I have seen it.

Where did they come out and say so? I've never seen such a post from a Bioware-poster.

[CoddyXD]

Multiplayer plays like the single player 2-3 side quest planets. Bronze is like normal, silver insane and gold is wtf ow

[fluffmoresheep]

Play engineer, use a heavy pistol.

Or: Play Infiltrator, use whatever + a heavy pistol.

[paincanbefun]

lol, if this post is trolling bioware for "forcing people into mp", then, good on you.

if it's serious, it's totally cool, don't worry about it. 1. bronze is pretty easy. 2. many teammates aren't very good anyway, so you'll fit in and 3. you might find that you like it.

i thought mp sounded dumb. i rely on pause so much in the single player, i didn't think it would translate, and now i like mp for what it is.

[neurovore]

I'll have to echo a lot of people on this thread. I found the idea of "forced MP" iffy at best. Turns out I like it (though it definitely suffers from some rather serious design flaws). Regardless, the difficulty caught me rather off-guard, but I didn't let it set me back. I can totally sympathize with the infl time-dilation thing (and PAUSE *gasp*). Sniping is fairly hard on MP, and takes quite a bit of practice, but is also rewarding. In fact, the same is true for all classes, I find. I completed SP on Hardcore on my first playthrough, and found it thoroughly frustrating. Now, I'm starting to think that perhaps I was just playing badly.

Still, the thought of redoing certain fights on an even higher difficulty annoys me to no end. Especially with the AI companions that are worse at the game than most of the bad players on MP.

[Bioras]

Okay....I still don't like the idea of it. And yes I'm still really bad at it. But on the bright side....I have met some really great people. Thanks for all the help. You're all the best!

[Axialbloom]

maxtofunator wrote...

You can do it easily in just single player, I did...

You sure can...if you hack your game or your EMS bugs out on you.  Otherwise no.

[Kenshen]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

It depends on what you did with the collector base.  Some do need 5000 EMS to get the breath scene.  If possible you might want to chart out everything you did in all 3 games cause I have not heard or seen anyone that finished with that high of EMS without playing MP.

[nuculerman]

aryon69 wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

You only need 4000 EMS to get the best ending and my total war assets were between 7800 and 7900 (and I know I messed up a few choices in various spots). It is doable with a perfect run.

It depends on what you did with the collector base.  Some do need 5000 EMS to get the breath scene.  If possible you might want to chart out everything you did in all 3 games cause I have not heard or seen anyone that finished with that high of EMS without playing MP.

Or.  You know.  Just post a screenshot.  Which no one has ever done because no one has ever gotten 8000 TMS.  Everyone that claims they got the breathe ending without playing MP or one of the iOS apps is either lying/trolling, or forgetting that they played MP once.  You literally only need a few percent more than 50% to get the best ending if you did pure Paragon, imported your saves, and did every single side quest.  I'm pretty sure you can play bronze once, and you'll be set.

[Ealos]

Don't feel you have to play MP for the best ending. There is none, so it makes little difference.

Modifié par Ealos, 23 avril 2012 - 08:40 .

[Atomic Space Vixen]

john-in-france wrote...


OP: If you are playing Bronze there is a group called Bronze Effect for casual players.
http://social.bioware.com/group/7080/

Beat me to it. If you want to find people who will play with you regardless of skill (or lack of), come join us. If we're going to have to play multi-player, we might as well enjoy it.

[regack]

Honestly, I never imagined that an ME MP would be any good, but I took a break from SP to try it out... and I got kind of hooked... that said, it's a very different play style than SP. I played adept through ME1 & 2, so that's where I went first with MP, it was still a big adjustment for me... I've since branched out and tried them all, and currently I'm loving the Gethineer... personally, I'll play bronze with anyone who shows up in the lobby... last night played a bunch of rounds with an N7 1 Level 1 Soldier... by the time I left he/she was up to lvl 15...

[Skeet Pro]

 Welcome OP... I am not big on online multiplayer games, and originally thought that MP in Mass Effect couldn't work or would water it down. I had originally planned on just playing the SP campaign repeatedly. Then I played the MP demo.... I love it! Its awesome, may not be up to snuff with some of the other popular shooters in some people's opinions, but I love the variety and the challenge. I was horrible at first, but I regularly play Silver with little challenge and have completed a few Gold waves. If you like the lore then the MP does flow well with the story. Just give it a try. If you want to play and cut your teeth and are on pc add me Flowing_Phoenix, we can run through bronze it'll be fun.

[jpraelster93]

just use the save editor to up your assets if you dont want to play mp

[UKStory135]

You don't have to play MP, but you then have to play the iPad Infiltrator game and mess with the Data Pad app.

[The_mango55]

What is it that you're not good at and is making you die all the time? If it's shooting, then try a class that doesn't rely on weapons so much, like human engineer or human sentinel (focus on warp and throw to get biotic explosions, don't use tech armor until you can get it max rank). If you're not good taking cover try a class that doesn't need much cover like Human Vanguard (max Charge and Nova asap).

[Ravennus]

Darkslayer557 wrote...

Bioras wrote...

I apologize for what I am about to do to anyone that gets stuck with me. I have never played MP before and have NO desire to. However..BW lied and you can NOT get the "best" ending without mp. Thus forcing many of us that don't want to and should NOT be into..MP.
Again...I'm really sorry.

What? I got 6400+ before invading illusive man's nest without playing MP for the first playthrough...

You confuse TOTAL Military Strength (TMS) with EFFECTIVE Military Strength (EMS) as many others do.
6400 TMS is actually fairly low to achieve before the Cerberus Base, so long as you imported and attempted to complete all the quests and scanned every possible planet.
That equals 3200 EMS, after the 50% readiness rating (due to no multiplayer or apps) is taken into account.
You need 4000 EMS as well as succeding at a certain persausion check to get the highest achievable ending.


The actual game files have been specifically examined, and the math done.
The highest possible TMS you can achieve in Single Player with an imported game and the most ideal choices made in all three games is roughly 7500.
That's possible only if you play all three games like a schizophrenic with no regard to roleplaying or Paragon/Renegade preferences.
You simply make all decisions based on what will net you more War Assets at the end of ME3.



Anyway, more on topic..... OP, it's too bad you aren't on Xbox!  My girlfriend and I would love to play with you and help you out!

She was in the same boat you were, but I've eased her into MP and she's starting to enjoy herself.
It's funny because she prefer Infiltrators as well, and it took her a while to get used to them in MP.

Modifié par Ravennus, 24 avril 2012 - 06:29 .