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[Bill Casey]

CapnManx wrote...

I thought about it a little; but only because I was taken aback by the 'Control' option being the blue one.

"You take the blue pill – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and
believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill – you stay
in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."

[Beeno4Life]

I thought for a second, then thought: "I've come all this way to destroy the Reapers, damn it, and I am NOT leaving empty handed!"

[Phatose]

Wait.

You guys didn't sit there for at least a little bit thinking "What kind of pipe is that, exactly, that will destroy an entire species if I shoot it?"

"And why, if this pipe can destroy all synthetic life everywhere, is it here? I mean, the synthetics plan involved organics using the citadel, living here, basing their society around it. Lots of organics, over untold cycles. That's a pretty terrible place to keep a pipe that will wipe out your entire species."

"It's actually a sewage pipe, right? And if I shoot it, I'm gonna get covered in Elcor poo. And then, since I just shot a pipe you told me would kill you, shooting me becomes self defense."

"Hmm.  Ok, what are the other options?  To control you, I grab onto this visible electrified high voltage conduit?  Uh.....and I can 'merge all synthetic life' by jumping down this giant elevator shaft to my certain death?"

Modifié par Phatose, 23 avril 2012 - 03:21 .

[LinksOcarina]

First time I up, I sat there for ten minutes thinking about it. Up to that point I had saved the Geth, settled them peacefully with the Quarians, cured the Genophage and saved a Salarian councelor. I also encouraged EDI to pursue Joker, and Joker to live for the day. I gave Liara a parting gift, and she, in turn, gave me her own gift. I promised Garrus I would see him in hell, and Jacob I will hit the bars when this is over. I told James to become an N7 Marine, and Tali that it was an honor serving with her. I heard Wrex say his new wife is pregnant, and Javik honroed me with giving his memory shard to me. I avenged a friend murdered by an assassin, and had the illusive man retain his humanity over his mistake. I heard Grunt and Jack and Miranda say thank you for what they did, and I saw Captain Anderson die right next to me.

All of this factored into my decision in the end. All of this made me chose the synthesis option.

That, my friends, is why I liked the endings more than others.

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 23 avril 2012 - 03:21 .

[Bill Casey]

LinksOcarina wrote...

All of this factored into my decision in the end. All of this made me chose the synthesis option.

That, my friends, is why I liked the endings more than others.

So you raped the universe...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 23 avril 2012 - 03:20 .

[Rulycar]

Red kills reapers, Geth, EDI, etc.
Synthesis wipes all life as we know it.
Control sacrifices Shep for everyone he loves and takes away the reaper's freedom without killing them.

Control ... no contest.

[wickedgoodreed]

Phyrex82 wrote...

Went straight to red, watched ending.... Thought I must have picked the wrong one, reloaded, did the blue, hated every step of that one, watched the ending..... Thought I had again picked the wrong one, reloaded, did the green, watched the ending....... went "WTF?"

Pretty much this. The order of the colors was a little different for me personally, but otherwise this sums up my experience.

Red is the better option of the three, but that's not saying much.

[LinksOcarina]

Bill Casey wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

All of this factored into my decision in the end. All of this made me chose the synthesis option.

That, my friends, is why I liked the endings more than others.

So you raped the universe...

Nope. 

[Bill Casey]

Trying to control the Reapers is offensively stupid...

[Bill Casey]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Nope. 

YES YOU DID
YOU VIOLATED EVERY LIVING THING

Modifié par Bill Casey, 23 avril 2012 - 03:23 .

[Icinix]

Phatose wrote...

Wait.

You guys didn't sit there for at least a little bit thinking "What kind of pipe is that, exactly, that will destroy an entire species if I shoot it?"

"And why, if this pipe can destroy all synthetic life everywhere, is it here? I mean, the synthetics plan involved organics using the citadel, living here, basing their society around it. Lots of organics, over untold cycles. That's a pretty terrible place to keep a pipe that will wipe out your entire species."

"It's actually a sewage pipe, right? And if I shoot it, I'm gonna get covered in Elcor poo. And then, since I just shot a pipe you told me would kill you, shooting me becomes self defense."

Oh I thought about. For the second it took to go, here is a random starchild from nowhere, who claims to have invented and control the Reapers like remote control toys, little fracker who has wiped out squillions of beings previously, is saying destroy is the worst for him - destroy it is.

The fact he appeared as the creepy kid that made me lol at points through me ME3 certainly didn't help his case.

[LinksOcarina]

Bill Casey wrote...

Trying to control the Reapers is offensively stupid...

So are your posts so far.


The choice is philosophically interesting, because all three of them are bad in some respects, and good in others.

So in the end you need to decide which is appropriate based on actions that happened before you. Just like every other Mass Effect game, you have your A,B,C endings, and you needed to choose which one is appropriate based on what happened previously.

[Yorkston9152]

bee line for red. Control seemed to be every thing TIM wanted and therfor bad and green just made me go "huh what?...."

Also, i didnt think all robot life would be wiped out.....it just seems stupid.

[KingWrex]

My attention span wasn't long enough to pay attention to that boring and annoying brat so I just walked over to the pipe and shot it to bits, then wondered why in the Shep would walk towards an exploding pipe

Modifié par KingWrex, 23 avril 2012 - 03:26 .

[PeterG1]

The first time I played I didnt think twice. But I also chose green.

It wasnt until thinking more about the endings did I go back and consider the others. But synthesis was my first choice.

[KotorEffect3]

For some reason when I read the thread title I thought the OP was talking about armor customization.

[TODD9999]

Well, when I beat the game, I was at the end of about a 12-13 hour all-nighter playing, and had just been blindsided by the Starchild, so I just stopped trying to think. Shepard wouldn't throw the geth on the altar, and he wouldn't do what The Illusive Man had wanted to do. Plus, metagaming, the game seemed to be presenting Synthesis as the "good" option, so I took it.

[Yorkston9152]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Trying to control the Reapers is offensively stupid...

So are your posts so far.


The choice is philosophically interesting, because all three of them are bad in some respects, and good in others.

So in the end you need to decide which is appropriate based on actions that happened before you. Just like every other Mass Effect game, you have your A,B,C endings, and you needed to choose which one is appropriate based on what happened previously.

.....no....just no

it is not philosophical.....and if it is, its just one iota of philosophical. its the diet coke of philosophical, just one calorie, but not enough. you can control the reapers with no chance or promise that it will hold and possibly kill every one, you can kill billions and destroy the reapers, or you can forceably submit a mutation onto every living creature and robot with out any choice from them. Oh and on top of that, mass relays blow up, stranding millions of people and possibly killing them. It pretty much is a choice between dominating or destroying, with a dash of saving mixxed in just to tick you off.

[LinksOcarina]

Yorkston9152 wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Trying to control the Reapers is offensively stupid...

So are your posts so far.


The choice is philosophically interesting, because all three of them are bad in some respects, and good in others.

So in the end you need to decide which is appropriate based on actions that happened before you. Just like every other Mass Effect game, you have your A,B,C endings, and you needed to choose which one is appropriate based on what happened previously.

.....no....just no

it is not philosophical.....and if it is, its just one iota of philosophical. its the diet coke of philosophical, just one calorie, but not enough. you can control the reapers with no chance or promise that it will hold and possibly kill every one, you can kill billions and destroy the reapers, or you can forceably submit a mutation onto every living creature and robot with out any choice from them. Oh and on top of that, mass relays blow up, stranding millions of people and possibly killing them. It pretty much is a choice between dominating or destroying, with a dash of saving mixxed in just to tick you off.

Other than the mass relay parts and the possability of killing people, you are wrong in that sentiment on it being non-philosophical. Which is why the games ending is 2001: A Space Odyssey over Return of the Jedi.

Of course, I never said it fit the game in the end...

[Bill Casey]

I just shot Anderson against my own will, just now...
I just got done yelling at the Illusive Man about how the Reapers fooled him into thinking he can control them...

[UrdnotGrunty2]

I just went and shot the pipe and then headed to the forums to see what I did wrong

[DazenCobalt17]

I went straight to red, no hesitation

[SovereignX6]

Nobrandminda wrote...

I went straight for Synthesis, because I figured everyone stranded on earth had a fighting chance of not starving to death if they were cyborgs.

And the idea of killing EDI and the Geth... no. Just no. Bringing peace to Rannoch was my favorite moment of the game. I wasn't going to kill the Geth after pulling that off.

That was my impression at the time, and now I have no idea. Everything is in a state of flux while we wait for the Extended Cut. We have no idea what will be true, and what won't be true anymore until we get our hands on it.

Yeah,i don't HATE geth. But i told my self their sacrafice would be honered.

[Zolt51]

Magiking117 wrote...
I thought for a bit. Control wasn't an option 

Why exactly is control not an option? Because it's The Illusive Man's route and nothing else?

If you think about it, it's the ending that offers the least collateral damage:
- Geth saved
- Citadel: OK, safely shuts down and closes.
- Mass relay damage seems less than other endings

Of course you do sacrifice Shepard, and control isn't really part of his usual moral compass, but still, it's a very valid alternative.

TIM wouldn't be the first villain who tried to do the right thing, for the wrong reasons and in a horribly wrong way.

[Bill Casey]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Other than the mass relay parts and the possability of killing people, you are wrong in that sentiment on it being non-philosophical. Which is why the games ending is 2001: A Space Odyssey over Return of the Jedi.

It's not...
2001 A Space Odyssey had conflict resolution before the star gate sequence...