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[babachewie]

Blodsven wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Angry gamers will find any outlet to vent their angry. MC isnt a valid example of what peopel think. MW3 made over a billion dollars. It MC rating is lower than ME3's and is still the most played game in the world right now. Obviously there is some discrepancy. Your evdence is invalid 

1. Angry gamers will vent their anger, yes. That was the whole point, right? We are not looking for just the possitive players, or for that matter only negative players. The idea is to have as big group of individuals as possible, the bigger the better. With very little search I found a group of 1600 that did provide a mixed review of possitive and negative feedback. You have still not provided any group to support your claim.

2. MW3 might have earned a billion dollars, and obviously ME3 should have made plenty of money. The question is not regarding their initial sales, since you do need the product in order to experience it. If you wish to bring monetary values to support your claim that the negative group is a minority, then the safest bet is to measure the number of bought DLC, that were bought after the player managed to finish the game. Of course, for ME3 this is not possible yet.

3. Yes MW3's rating on that site is even lower than ME3. However, you have not managed to provide any evidence that it is the most played game in the world right now. Personally I would think that Angry Birds, WoW or good old Solitaire ranks far higher. However that is an opinion and unlike you, I do not need to provide any evidence of that... since those three games do not affect my argument. You on the other hand must show that a majority of the MW3 owners do actually play the game still.


In short, you have not:
a) Provided a statistical group of your own.
Logically proven that the group I used could not be used.

Thus my evidence is still valid.


ADDENDUM:
MC had 2856 individuals rate ME3, not 1600, so the statiscal group is a bit larger than what has been said here.

 http://www.metacriti...0/mass-effect-3  Your argument in using MC is invalid. 

Modifié par babachewie, 23 avril 2012 - 08:36 .

[phagus]

Yeah OP, with emphasis on the word SMASHING. For me the ending smashed story cohesion, the plot of previous ME games, ME lore , and finally the Mass Effect universe.

[marley the buffalo solider]

The ending was a kick in the gut and many other things but the worst thing about it is the amount of clear copying that went on in this ending, this video shows clearly where they took ideas from.

Modifié par marley the buffalo solider, 23 avril 2012 - 09:28 .

[sargon1986]

Aweus wrote...

WIN!

[Bill Casey]

babachewie wrote...

An English Gamer wrote...

Who cares if the Minority of your customers loath and abandon you when you have SPECCCUUUULLLLAAATTTTIIIIIOOOONNNSSSS!

fixed

A business typically only hears from 4 percent of dissatisfied customers...
The other 96 percent quietly move on, and 91 percent never come back...

There was a petition with over 66 thousand signatures...

66,000 x 25 = 1.65 million

[SirBob1613]

Aweus wrote...

Someone needs to put EA at the top of the explosion and bioware at the bottum

[Taboo]

Bill Casey wrote...

babachewie wrote...

An English Gamer wrote...

Who cares if the Minority of your customers loath and abandon you when you have SPECCCUUUULLLLAAATTTTIIIIIOOOONNNSSSS!

fixed

A business typically only hears from 4 percent of dissatisfied customers...
The other 96 percent quietly move on, and 91 percent never come back...

There was a petition with over 66 thousand signatures...

66,000 x 25 = 1.65 million

An inescapable fact. 

Problem?

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 23 avril 2012 - 10:18 .

[sammysoso]

Well, Hudson did say he wanted everyone to be talking.

So......congrats?

[Skull Bearer]

babachewie wrote...



 As an illustrator, I respect their right to tell the story they want to tell whether I like it or not. Or keep their Artistic vision if you will. I don't share the belief in forcing anyone to change it. People will love it or hate it. Doesnt matter as long as the artist is satisfied and proud of it. 



 A great attitude if you don't like eating food and having heat.


Here' business 101 for you kids. 


Satisfy your customer, first. 

 George RR Martin makes a living on pissing his fans off. 

No, GRRM made a living of surprising his fans. If he had Song of Ice and Fire end with the Seven suddenly materialising and giving Dany and Jon three choices on how to kill the Others, then they'd be pissed off.

Modifié par Skull Bearer, 23 avril 2012 - 10:33 .

[babachewie]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

babachewie wrote...

An English Gamer wrote...

Who cares if the Minority of your customers loath and abandon you when you have SPECCCUUUULLLLAAATTTTIIIIIOOOONNNSSSS!

fixed

A business typically only hears from 4 percent of dissatisfied customers...
The other 96 percent quietly move on, and 91 percent never come back...

There was a petition with over 66 thousand signatures...

66,000 x 25 = 1.65 million

An inescapable fact. 

Problem?

Just because you can pull fancy statistics out of nowhere without anythign to back it up doesnt make it so. 66,000 is still just 66,000. That is an inescapable fact.

[Taboo]

babachewie wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

babachewie wrote...

An English Gamer wrote...

Who cares if the Minority of your customers loath and abandon you when you have SPECCCUUUULLLLAAATTTTIIIIIOOOONNNSSSS!

fixed

A business typically only hears from 4 percent of dissatisfied customers...
The other 96 percent quietly move on, and 91 percent never come back...

There was a petition with over 66 thousand signatures...

66,000 x 25 = 1.65 million

An inescapable fact. 

Problem?

Just because you can pull fancy statistics out of nowhere without anythign to back it up doesnt make it so. 66,000 is still just 66,000. That is an inescapable fact.

No it isn't the whole shebang. BUT using math to make a conservative estimate we arrive at a number that doesn't look good for EA.

Problem?

[babachewie]

Skull Bearer wrote...

babachewie wrote...



 As an illustrator, I respect their right to tell the story they want to tell whether I like it or not. Or keep their Artistic vision if you will. I don't share the belief in forcing anyone to change it. People will love it or hate it. Doesnt matter as long as the artist is satisfied and proud of it. 



 A great attitude if you don't like eating food and having heat.


Here' business 101 for you kids. 


Satisfy your customer, first. 

 George RR Martin makes a living on pissing his fans off. 

No, GRRM made a living of surprising his fans. If he had Song of Ice and Fire end with the Seven suddenly materialising and giving Dany and Jon three choices on how to kill the Others, then they'd be pissed off.

Haha! Well I'm sure they were surprised but I know quite a few people who werent happy about it. 

[Skull Bearer]

babachewie wrote...

Skull Bearer wrote...

babachewie wrote...



 As an illustrator, I respect their right to tell the story they want to tell whether I like it or not. Or keep their Artistic vision if you will. I don't share the belief in forcing anyone to change it. People will love it or hate it. Doesnt matter as long as the artist is satisfied and proud of it. 



 A great attitude if you don't like eating food and having heat.


Here' business 101 for you kids. 


Satisfy your customer, first. 

 George RR Martin makes a living on pissing his fans off. 

No, GRRM made a living of surprising his fans. If he had Song of Ice and Fire end with the Seven suddenly materialising and giving Dany and Jon three choices on how to kill the Others, then they'd be pissed off.

Haha! Well I'm sure they were surprised but I know quite a few people who werent happy about it. 

Congrats, I know people who liked Battlefield Earth. Please find a poll where more people liked the ending of ME3 than didn't.

Modifié par Skull Bearer, 23 avril 2012 - 10:39 .

[Spectre Impersonator]

Great job, guys! You got us to speculate and to refrain from giving you any more money in the future. Excellent work.

[babachewie]

Taboo-XX wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

babachewie wrote...

An English Gamer wrote...

Who cares if the Minority of your customers loath and abandon you when you have SPECCCUUUULLLLAAATTTTIIIIIOOOONNNSSSS!

fixed

A business typically only hears from 4 percent of dissatisfied customers...
The other 96 percent quietly move on, and 91 percent never come back...

There was a petition with over 66 thousand signatures...

66,000 x 25 = 1.65 million

An inescapable fact. 

Problem?

Just because you can pull fancy statistics out of nowhere without anythign to back it up doesnt make it so. 66,000 is still just 66,000. That is an inescapable fact.

No it isn't the whole shebang. BUT using math to make a conservative estimate we arrive at a number that doesn't look good for EA.

Problem?

I'm sure they're arent worried about imaginary esimates. Plus Mass Effect is only small piece of the pie. They have other games. Not all thier customers play mass effect. 

[Taboo]

babachewie wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

babachewie wrote...

An English Gamer wrote...

Who cares if the Minority of your customers loath and abandon you when you have SPECCCUUUULLLLAAATTTTIIIIIOOOONNNSSSS!

fixed

A business typically only hears from 4 percent of dissatisfied customers...
The other 96 percent quietly move on, and 91 percent never come back...

There was a petition with over 66 thousand signatures...

66,000 x 25 = 1.65 million

An inescapable fact. 

Problem?

Just because you can pull fancy statistics out of nowhere without anythign to back it up doesnt make it so. 66,000 is still just 66,000. That is an inescapable fact.

No it isn't the whole shebang. BUT using math to make a conservative estimate we arrive at a number that doesn't look good for EA.

Problem?

I'm sure they're arent worried about imaginary esimates. Plus Mass Effect is only small piece of the pie. They have other games. Not all thier customers play mass effect. 

The EA stock drop from sixty to twenty five dollars a share is kind of a big deal.

Can you dig it?

[N7Infernox]

Why you would even choose to force speculation out of your fanbase in the final moments of an otherwise definitive series is beyond me.

The ending has earned it's "success" through disrepsect.

[ReXspec]

@babachewie

You are fighting a losing battle here. The ending was garbage, the majority of the fans agree with that sentiment. Period.

Countless people have already offered up their evidence (including me) and the only thing you are doing is covering your ears and closing your eyes eyes while going, "LALALALALALA WHAT I CANT SEE OR HEAR ISN'T TRUE!"

Seriously, admit you are a forum troll and move on to another board. You will find no success in your arguments here.

[Tirranek]

Skull Bearer wrote...

babachewie wrote...



 As an illustrator, I respect their right to tell the story they want to tell whether I like it or not. Or keep their Artistic vision if you will. I don't share the belief in forcing anyone to change it. People will love it or hate it. Doesnt matter as long as the artist is satisfied and proud of it. 



 A great attitude if you don't like eating food and having heat.


Here' business 101 for you kids. 


Satisfy your customer, first. 

 George RR Martin makes a living on pissing his fans off. 

No, GRRM made a living of surprising his fans. If he had Song of Ice and Fire end with the Seven suddenly materialising and giving Dany and Jon three choices on how to kill the Others, then they'd be pissed off.

He hasn't ended it yet

Seriously though. Were people expecting the crucible to be ME3's Death Star or something?

[Flammenpanzer]

Taboo-XX wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

babachewie wrote...

An English Gamer wrote...

Who cares if the Minority of your customers loath and abandon you when you have SPECCCUUUULLLLAAATTTTIIIIIOOOONNNSSSS!

fixed

A business typically only hears from 4 percent of dissatisfied customers...
The other 96 percent quietly move on, and 91 percent never come back...

There was a petition with over 66 thousand signatures...

66,000 x 25 = 1.65 million

An inescapable fact. 

Problem?

Just because you can pull fancy statistics out of nowhere without anythign to back it up doesnt make it so. 66,000 is still just 66,000. That is an inescapable fact.

No it isn't the whole shebang. BUT using math to make a conservative estimate we arrive at a number that doesn't look good for EA.

Problem?

I'm sure they're arent worried about imaginary esimates. Plus Mass Effect is only small piece of the pie. They have other games. Not all thier customers play mass effect. 

The EA stock drop from sixty to twenty five dollars a share is kind of a big deal.

Can you dig it?

Actually, after Mass Effect 3 was released, it went up from 16 to 17, peaking at 17.46.

Since then, its dropped to 14.48. Could the the result of the economy, or the effect some poor publicity is having on it. Honestly, its hard to tell.

If the economy was doing good, it'd be easier to see what effect things have on what.

www.google.ca/finance/historical

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 23 avril 2012 - 10:56 .

[Linkenski]

...if it wasn't like it is.

[lordofdogtown19]

I can't find the damn picture, but if anyone know where it is please post the picture of TIM saying he'd smiling if he knew the game was about rainbow explosions and god-children. It would be perfect for this thread

Modifié par lordofdogtown19, 23 avril 2012 - 11:04 .

[babachewie]

Taboo-XX wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

babachewie wrote...

An English Gamer wrote...

Who cares if the Minority of your customers loath and abandon you when you have SPECCCUUUULLLLAAATTTTIIIIIOOOONNNSSSS!

fixed

A business typically only hears from 4 percent of dissatisfied customers...
The other 96 percent quietly move on, and 91 percent never come back...

There was a petition with over 66 thousand signatures...

66,000 x 25 = 1.65 million

An inescapable fact. 

Problem?

Just because you can pull fancy statistics out of nowhere without anythign to back it up doesnt make it so. 66,000 is still just 66,000. That is an inescapable fact.

No it isn't the whole shebang. BUT using math to make a conservative estimate we arrive at a number that doesn't look good for EA.

Problem?

I'm sure they're arent worried about imaginary esimates. Plus Mass Effect is only small piece of the pie. They have other games. Not all thier customers play mass effect. 

The EA stock drop from sixty to twenty five dollars a share is kind of a big deal.

Can you dig it?

Apple is down and so is google. So what? Thats just how it is. tThe market fluctuates. And if it doesnt who cares? Someone else will take over. I dont really care about EA or Activsion, but i also dont think either one is even close to going under.