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[THEEAV3NG3R]

In my opinion, Phantom's in their current state are OP (overpowered) and need to be nerfed in order to balance them.
I believe that the following change is a must in order to balance the Phantom's:
- Reduce accuracy of the Phantom's palm-gun when the Phantom is moving.
 
I also belive that one of the following changes needs to be made:
- Slightly reduce the damage of the Phantom's palm-gun OR
- Slightly reduce the rate of fire of the Phantom's palm-gun.

[Rivercurse]

I second this. Remove their melee abilities aswell, and in fact, the palm gun entirely. Oh and don't let them cloak anymore.

And reduce movement speed too whilst we're at it.

[KaeserZen]

I think the palm-gun is fine as it is. I don't find them using it this much. Once they are targeted and their barriers damaged, they focus on going to cover, cloaking or dodging around.

[Rhaina]

Phantoms are not overpowered.

[Joukahainen]

Useless topic is useless..

[Dr.Sid]

Play tetris if it is too hard for you ..

[PluralAces]

Rivercurse wrote...

I second this. Remove their melee abilities aswell, and in fact, the palm gun entirely. Oh and don't let them cloak anymore.

And reduce movement speed too whilst we're at it.

LOL.... so you basically want the Phantom to be like a civilian who is casually walking around the map? lol

[phantom121294]

I dont need balancing im just fine as I am................I LIKE ME.

[astheoceansblue]

Phantoms are one of the easiest to manage/kill special types in the game.

They have huge damage output, but are extremely squishy... which is exactly how they are balanced.

[Mozts]

The palm-gun is really OP, but I vote for something more subtle, like a reload time, that gun must overheat right?

[Maria Caliban]

I've only had trouble killing Phantoms with my Infultrator and that's only because my teammates are typically wildly firing at them, doing no damage, but cause them to leap around like a Drell on Redbull.

Rivercurse wrote...

I second this. Remove their melee abilities aswell, and in fact, the palm gun entirely. Oh and don't let them cloak anymore.

And reduce movement speed too whilst we're at it.

Their new attack is a gentle hug and they die when you sneeze on them.

[SapientesGladio]

Palm gun? I think it to be more along the lines of palm cannon hahaha

[THEEAV3NG3R]

Dr.Sid wrote...

Play tetris if it is too hard for you ..

Its not too hard for me, I complete 9/10 missions that I play, its just every time I play against Cerberus I always find that my team-mates are being killed by Phatom's.

[THEEAV3NG3R]

Rivercurse wrote...

I second this. Remove their melee abilities aswell, and in fact, the palm gun entirely. Oh and don't let them cloak anymore.

And reduce movement speed too whilst we're at it.

I think that their melee abilities are fine the way that they are.

[astheoceansblue]

THEEAV3NG3R wrote...

Dr.Sid wrote...

Play tetris if it is too hard for you ..

Its not too hard for me, I complete 9/10 missions that I play, its just every time I play against Cerberus I always find that my team-mates are being killed by Phatom's.

Lol. 

His teammates, he claims.

Solution: get better teammates and stop playing random pubs. 

Plenty of threads on the forums with experienced players looking for teams. 

[Benny8484]

MP is easy enough as it is.  Lets not start the round robin nerfs to the enemies. 

[THEEAV3NG3R]

Air Quotes wrote...

Or they may fire 5 times and then wait for palm gun to recharge. Like 3 seconds.

I like your recharge idea but not the 5 shots as it is already a 3 shot kill.

[Maria Caliban]

Every time I play against Reapers, I find my teammates die to Banshees. Every time I play against Geth, I find my teammates die against Pyros or Hunters.

[astheoceansblue]

THEEAV3NG3R wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Or they may fire 5 times and then wait for palm gun to recharge. Like 3 seconds.

I like your recharge idea but not the 5 shots as it is already a 3 shot kill.

Dude, the idea to nerf them at all  is ridiculous.

The game is very easy if you  have an experienced team. If you can't handle Gold for whatever reason you need to:

1. Practise more.
2. Look for a better team.

You can overcome your issues without calling for nerfs.

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 23 avril 2012 - 05:43 .

[THEEAV3NG3R]

astheoceansblue wrote...

THEEAV3NG3R wrote...

Dr.Sid wrote...

Play tetris if it is too hard for you ..

Its not too hard for me, I complete 9/10 missions that I play, its just every time I play against Cerberus I always find that my team-mates are being killed by Phatom's.

Lol. 

His teammates, he claims.

Solution: get better teammates and stop playing random pubs. 

Plenty of threads on the forums with experienced players looking for teams. 

Yes it is my team-mates and I am a casual gamer so I don't want to be waiting around to gather a team. I just want to get online a play.

[The Runeseeker]

I could be wrong, but I don't even remember Kai Leng's palm gun to be that powerful. Phantom's do almost the same damage as the Atlas' railgun, and they can fire it way more frequently. I say they should make it similar to his, in that they shoot a bit faster, but it does a little more than half of it's current damage. That way they have to be exposed for a little longer while firing it, rather than being able to pop in and out of cover and destroy teammates from across the map.

Modifié par The Runeseeker, 23 avril 2012 - 05:47 .

[astheoceansblue]

THEEAV3NG3R wrote...

Yes it is my team-mates and I am a casual gamer so I don't want to be waiting around to gather a team. I just want to get online a play.

It doesn't take a full-time gamer to find decent team mates. You're already on the forums, all you need to do is search for the right threads and add a few people to your friends list.

If you can't be bothered to do that then please stick to Silver and stop trying to ruin Gold for the rest of us.

Cheers!

[THEEAV3NG3R]

The Runeseeker wrote...

I could be wrong, but I don't even remember Kai Leng's palm gun to be that powerful. I say they should make it similar to his, in that they shoot a bit faster, but it does a little more than half of it's current damage. That way they have to be exposed for a little longer while firing it, rather than being able to pop in and out of cover and destroy teammates from across the map.

This is what I am trying to highlight. I do not think that they should be able to have pin-point accuracy from across the map.

[Drummernate]

Ahhh... the internet badasses saying the cannon isn't OP...

Get a grip.

The thing is more accurate than Nemesis sniper shots, shoots once every .8 seconds, and takes away 1 whole shield gate of health every shot.

If that is not OP, then you must have a Black Widow Saber Claymore XXX... a double cyclonic mod X and full fitness.

Don't say "Oh Krogan Vanguards take 5 shots..." nobody uses them on Gold public, unless they are garbage.

Modifié par Drummernate, 23 avril 2012 - 05:48 .