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[Rhaina]

eldrjth wrote...

no I said they can be OHK with: widow/claymore/melee with the right setup (on an infiltrator with cloak), making it seem as though they are suitably balanced, when in fact a team without the right hard counters against them can easily get wiped. saying that since there are counters for them, they are balanced, is a bit disingenuous since players are forced to use certain weapons/characters in order to beat them. it is for this reason I believe gold reapers is a highly imbalanced faction and OP against most classes even though biotics can make short work of them. also a lot of ppl dont know how to wield a one-shot sniper in close range good enough to kill a phantom so already thats not a good counter (though I can do it and also with a valiant fairly easily), add a bit of lag and they are hard to hit reliably with most weapons. what this means is it demands a lot of skill from players using ordinary weapons (not the best) compared to killing other enemies, with the exception of the banshee, and because I have NO trouble with it doesnt mean its not an OP enemy, since many other players do (I happen to top score most matches by a large margin btw), but I can also be taken out before even spotting them with fast shooting OP hand cannon.  

This is more an argument about player skill and can be applied to any and all enemies, this doesn't validate arguments of phantoms being too powerful, and rather proves exactly the opposite, that phantoms are not overpowered and instead many players are just new to the game, unskilled, don't care or too stupid... etc.

[Highlord Heian]

eldrjth wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...


Phantoms are OP and everything that kills them is OP.

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You are terrible.

they are OP. without them cerberus would be pushovers really. I can deal with them pretty easily without resorting to any of the OP skills such as ED/stasis/overload. I shoot them multiple times in the head in close range to kill them rather than getting a OHK with a shotgun. im not terrible you prob are.

This is hilarious.

Are you saying everything is overpowered? Or just everything you don't like? Or just everything you don't like to use? I'll bet you think combos are overpowered, too.

And, what, Phantoms are OP, but you have no problem with them, right? Can't complain and brag about the same thing, in the same sentence, but...well, you don't seem that bright. I can't tell if you're just stupid, awful at this game, or maybe a combination of both, for you to complain like you do and to say the dumb things you say.

...In fact, looking at a lot of these dumb bricks of text you vomit out, you seem to constantly "whine" and say "but I have no problem with it". You're complaining, but completely unable to stop patting yourself on the back. "This is imbalanced, I have no problem with it, but it's imbalanced". If you think something isn't balanced, you obviously have a problem with it. Quit pretending you're good, it's only make your arguments more senseless than they already are.

Modifié par Highlord Heian, 24 avril 2012 - 05:37 .

[eldrjth]

Rhaina wrote...

This is more an argument about player skill and can be applied to any and all enemies, this doesn't validate arguments of phantoms being too powerful, and rather proves exactly the opposite, that phantoms are not overpowered and instead many players are just new to the game, unskilled, don't care or too stupid... etc.

no. its about class selection/weapon choice required to counter it effectively and the fact the hand cannon can shot you down, regardless, before you can react to the shot much like the ravagers attack, only a ravager is much easier to take down and spot (and also you can see where the enemy is after it fires). so its unique in that it has a rapid firing highly damaging attack and can kill you in mere seconds while also moving quite quickly/stealthily/elusively and is unstunable by most abilties/weapons. it health pool is also quite high for such a elusive unit.

[eldrjth]

Highlord Heian wrote...

This is hilarious.

Are you saying everything is overpowered? Or just everything you don't like? Or just everything you don't like to use? I'll bet you think combos are overpowered, too.

And, what, Phantoms are OP, but you have no problem with them, right? Can't complain and brag about the same thing, in the same sentence, but...well, you don't seem that bright. I can't tell if you're just stupid, awful at this game, or maybe a combination of both, for you to complain like you do and to say the dumb things you say.

to put it another way they are not well designed since they are easily countered by some setups yet present a menance to everyone else. (the classes that can counter them easily can also be ambushed by them without being able to respond appropirately). the abilities that counter the phantom are considered OP, like stasis/ED/overload. I think I stated this already.

I think you are thick/stupid/nooby. and I outclass you with every character in the game actually.

Modifié par eldrjth, 24 avril 2012 - 05:38 .

[Highlord Heian]

eldrjth wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

This is hilarious.

Are you saying everything is overpowered? Or just everything you don't like? Or just everything you don't like to use? I'll bet you think combos are overpowered, too.

And, what, Phantoms are OP, but you have no problem with them, right? Can't complain and brag about the same thing, in the same sentence, but...well, you don't seem that bright. I can't tell if you're just stupid, awful at this game, or maybe a combination of both, for you to complain like you do and to say the dumb things you say.

to put it another way they are not well designed since as easily countered by some setups yet present a menance to everyone else. the abilities that counter the phantom are considered OP. like stasis/ED/overload. I think I stated this already.

I think you are think/stupid/nooby. and I outclass you with every character in the game actually.

You think I am think? Oh gosh, not that!

The fact that you call Stasis "OP" indicates you are a bottom-tier player who can hardly touch gold. Nobody is mistaking you for the badass you so desperately want to be.

[OGWS]

I enjoy actively hunting phantoms, kind of like hunting witches in l4d. At least in silver, I doubt it works as well in Gold

However, I agree that the hand cannon is incredibly annoying

Modifié par OGWS, 24 avril 2012 - 05:40 .

[Highlord Heian]

eldrjth wrote...

Rhaina wrote...

This is more an argument about player skill and can be applied to any and all enemies, this doesn't validate arguments of phantoms being too powerful, and rather proves exactly the opposite, that phantoms are not overpowered and instead many players are just new to the game, unskilled, don't care or too stupid... etc.

no. its about class selection/weapon choice required to counter it effectively and the fact the hand cannon can shot you down, regardless, before you can react to the shot much like the ravagers attack, only a ravager is much easier to take down and spot (and also you can see where the enemy is after it fires). so its unique in that it has a rapid firing highly damaging attack and can kill you in mere seconds while also moving quite quickly/stealthily/elusively and is unstunable by most abilties/weapons. it health pool is also quite high for such a elusive unit.

Stay in school, kids.

And are you seriously saying Phantoms have a lot of health? Once their barrier is gone they're prectically dead. If you think this, I have some serious doubts you've ever killed a Phantom.

[Kittstalkur]

eldrjth wrote...

to put it another way they are not well designed since they are easily countered by some setups yet present a menance to everyone else. (the classes that can counter them easily can also be ambushed by them without being able to respond appropirately). the abilities that counter the phantom are considered OP, like stasis/ED/overload. I think I stated this already.

I think you are thick/stupid/nooby. and I outclass you with every character in the game actually.

Big groups of infantry are harder to deal with when you're using a single shot sniper rifle.

Shields take significantly less damage from Biotic Explosions than armor and barriers do.

Automatic weapons are terrible against armor unless you have AP ammo and a piercing mod.

Shotguns are largely useless beyond about 15 meters.

OH NO some things are better than other things at some things!

[Torguemada]

lolspawn wrote...

IMO take the gun OUT COMPLETELY, give permanent phantom cloak. and improve melee.


then improve the nemisis sniping capabilities.  

This so much this.
Boost phantoms melee capabilities and make them true melee assasins instead of melee assasins who sometimes randomly decide to be snipers and are better at it then the actual snipers.

[Peer of the Empire]

Krogan vanguard with Striker or GPS/Graal handles them well

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 24 avril 2012 - 05:47 .

[eldrjth]

Highlord Heian wrote...

You think I am think? Oh gosh, not that!

The fact that you call Stasis "OP" indicates you are a bottom-tier player who can hardly touch gold. Nobody is mistaking you for the badass you so desperately want to be.

it is OP. wtf are you on? I ONLY PLAY GOLD IDIOT>

Highlord Heian wrote...


Stay in school, kids.

And are you seriously saying Phantoms have a lot of health? Once their barrier is gone they're prectically dead. If you think this, I have some serious doubts you've ever killed a Phantom.

health pool includes the barrier fkwit. 

[Jayleia]

THEEAV3NG3R wrote...

In my opinion, Phantom's in their current state are OP (overpowered) and need to be nerfed in order to balance them.
I believe that the following change is a must in order to balance the Phantom's:
- Reduce accuracy of the Phantom's palm-gun when the Phantom is moving.
 
I also belive that one of the following changes needs to be made:
- Slightly reduce the damage of the Phantom's palm-gun OR
- Slightly reduce the rate of fire of the Phantom's palm-gun.

They're mostly fine, annoying, but fine.

I would remove their ability to snipe from the other side of the map.  You have a sniper unit, you don't need two...especially since the "melee" unit is a better sniper than the sniper unit.

But, I'd add a different secondary attack for CQC, something like a wrist-mounted launcher that fires a bunch of electrically charged darts like a shotgun for a stun effect.

[Wesus]

OP is bad, rages on phantoms yet hè got no problems with it. How to contradict yourself, jeez this is just idiotic

On gold it takes me 3 shots to take à phantom out with my BW x, i played quake a lot so moving and sniping on moving targets is easy for me.

L2p and its easy as f*ck

[Wesus]

As well

Health pool = red
Shield/barrier pool = blue/purple
Armor pool = yellow

Its not hard to understand OP ...

[Schneidend]

Phantom palm cannon is a bit OP, but other than that they're fine.

[eldrjth]

Wesus wrote...

As well

Health pool = red
Shield/barrier pool = blue/purple
Armor pool = yellow

Its not hard to understand OP ...

whats the collective word for all of it? health pool? fk! why the sh*t are you calling health pool a pool when theres only one component of it btw?

also im not the OP.

Modifié par eldrjth, 24 avril 2012 - 06:17 .

[Wesus]

Its not WoW kid, in this game there are shields and barriers, armor and stuff..

Its not 1 component... Atlas got no hp, hè got shield and armor...

[eldrjth]

jeez. health pool infers youre pooling something (as in taking more than one component and adding it together ffs). I NEVER ever heard anyone referring to the collective of it all hitpoints or anything else. also it should be obvious I already know this.


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this forum is so fking unbelievable fking &()&*!!

Modifié par eldrjth, 24 avril 2012 - 06:28 .

[Highlord Heian]

eldrjth wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

You think I am think? Oh gosh, not that!

The fact that you call Stasis "OP" indicates you are a bottom-tier player who can hardly touch gold. Nobody is mistaking you for the badass you so desperately want to be.

it is OP. wtf are you on? I ONLY PLAY GOLD IDIOT>

Playing gold in no way makes you good. I feel bad for every team that has to suffer your cancerous presence. Your only support for how "good" you say you are is that you play gold, which goes in direct opposition to all the other stupid things that come out of you.

Highlord Heian wrote...


Stay in school, kids.

And are you seriously saying Phantoms have a lot of health? Once their barrier is gone they're prectically dead. If you think this, I have some serious doubts you've ever killed a Phantom.

health pool includes the barrier fkwit. 

Health =/= Barrier, you incompetent dreg. If you don't know the difference, you really are just the very definition of a garbage player. Nobody calls it that, nobody else is that stupid.

Modifié par Highlord Heian, 24 avril 2012 - 06:34 .

[Highlord Heian]

eldrjth wrote...

jeez. health pool infers youre pooling something (as in taking more than one component and adding it together ffs). I NEVER ever heard anyone referring to the collective of it all hitpoints or anything else. also it should be obvious I already know this.


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this forum is so fking unbelievable fking &()&*!!

Srsly.

Also, adding together shields/armor/barrier/health, obviously somebody doesn't know about shield gate.

Modifié par Highlord Heian, 24 avril 2012 - 06:39 .

[eldrjth]

Highlord Heian wrote...

Playing gold in no way makes you good. I feel bad for every team that has to suffer your cancerous presence. Your only support for how "good" you say you are is that you play gold, which goes in direct opposition to all the other stupid things that come out of you.


Health =/= Barrier, you incompetent dreg. If you don't know the difference, you really are just the very definition of a garbage player. Nobody calls it that, nobody else is that stupid.

no. the otherthing is almost 99% of players are worst. either gold is full of noobs or im good, what other conclusion needs to be drawn? 

I said health pool. I was also wondering if an imbreed dbfk might make a point of it too (literally I was wondering what phrase to use). looks like one did. nothing to argue other than semantics from you. and you like to sniper stupid points too. its obvious I know about barrier fking mole.

[eldrjth]

Highlord Heian wrote...


Also, adding together shields/armor/barrier/health, obviously somebody doesn't know about shield gate.

why is that? cause I do understand about shield gate and have discussed that in this forum which is why I recommend using a multishoot SR over a single shot one. I argued that point a lot ffs. youre a d**bsh*T.

[Rolenka]

Banshees are pretty hardcore, too.

[Highlord Heian]

eldrjth wrote...

no. the otherthing is almost 99% of players are worst. either gold is full of noobs or im good, what other conclusion needs to be drawn? 

I said health pool. I was also wondering if an imbreed dbfk might make a point of it too (literally I was wondering what phrase to use). looks like one did. nothing to argue other than semantics from you. and you like to sniper stupid points too. its obvious I know about barrier fking mole.

Yes, you said health pool, which - as was covered pretty extensively - is a stupid way to refer to anything aside from just health. Health has a meter in this game. It's called health. Health and Barrier is not "health", it's Health and Barrier, you knuckle-dragging nitwit.

You are garbage-tier.

[Highlord Heian]

eldrjth wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...


Also, adding together shields/armor/barrier/health, obviously somebody doesn't know about shield gate.

why is that? cause I do understand about shield gate and have discussed that in this forum which is why I recommend using a multishoot SR over a single shot one. I argued that point a lot ffs. youre a d**bsh*T.

If I'm a "d**bsh*T", why aren't I the one confused by what "health" is?