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[Sublyminal]

sth128 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I'll adress my thoughts on the matter and what is happening at the offices right now base purely upon what I know about the situation.

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Here's the secret guys: Bioware is in pre-production, they are still writing scripts, dialouge, and are storyboarding things...

I'm sorry, did you just say "I will now speculate base on zero concrete evidence"? Because unless you work at the (Bioware) offices, you have just defeated your own logic.

Regardless, BW cannot fix the ending without changing the ending. There's a reason we are upset by the apparent destruction of the ME universe: Shepard's actions (be it red, green, or blue) have dire consequences. If BW gives even an ounce of what you called "moment of happiness" by explaining "oh the Citadel didn't blow up and crash into Earth causing an extinction level event" or "oh the dextros aren't gonna starve" or "who needs the relays everything will be fine", they are nullifying the dire consequences.

It will be like the openings of ME2 all over again: you see Shepard sacrificing himself (needlessly) to save Joker, and then two minutes later, yay Shepard's back! This renders the whole death pointless.

Without consequences, the actions have zero impact (just like Shep's actions throughout the series have no real impact because the same RGB bubbles happen no matter what). If the Extended Cut circumvents the apparent dire consequences, then it will nullify the impact of that ending.

So not only do we have a terrible ending to start with, the EC kills the ending altogether and we have a pointless ending... You say they can't drop the ball twice, I say anyone who picks up the ball after it was dropped, will inevitably drop it again.

Unless you want Bioware to hold on to their balls forever...

Ya see if you paid any attention, you'd know when Gamble, debunked that one rumor on 4chan that he said, they were still in pre-production.

[Taboo]

Sublyminal wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

 Mr. Gamble just tweeted that he has spent eight hours in a meeting. That's...........my God.

eight hours in a pre-production meeting... ick.

Pre-production for me is having my scripts and ideas ready for a lunch meeting. Hour and a half to two tops.

My last meeting about a documentary I'm going to make lasted about ten minutes.

The implications..............

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 24 avril 2012 - 12:17 .

[Sublyminal]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

 Mr. Gamble just tweeted that he has spent eight hours in a meeting. That's...........my God.

eight hours in a pre-production meeting... ick.

Pre-production for me is having my scripts and ideas ready for a lunch meeting. Hour and a half to two tops.

My last meeting about a documentary I'm going to make lasted about ten minutes.

The implications..............

The prize?

[Taboo]

An eight hour meeting where I come from would result from something like legal implications or censorship. That isn't what's happening here but I can possibly imagine...........eight hours.

I mean I would sit in front of the MPAA and argue for my R rating for something like two hours but eight........my God.

[TheLostGenius]

Insane. People live on earth, Turians on Mars, Quarians on Pluto, Krogans on Uranus and the Asari can live on Venus, Winner!!

[Sublyminal]

Taboo-XX wrote...

An eight hour meeting where I come from would result from something like legal implications or censorship. That isn't what's happening here but I can possibly imagine...........eight hours.

I mean I would sit in front of the MPAA and argue for my R rating for something like two hours but eight........my God.

I know if I'm having an eight hour meeting with anyone, it involves my lawyers and whoever is trying to sue me or who I'm suing.  And even then it only takes three max. so... yea. These guys have something planned.

[Taboo]

TheLostGenius wrote...

Insane. People live on earth, Turians on Mars, Quarians on Pluto, Krogans on Uranus and the Asari can live on Venus, Winner!!

Uranus is a gas planet yes? Wouldn't those Krogan have some issues?

I honestly have no idea what you were trying to imply with your post.

[StevenG_CT]

Taboo-XX wrote...

An eight hour meeting where I come from would result from something like legal implications or censorship. That isn't what's happening here but I can possibly imagine...........eight hours.

That may actually be exactly what is happening here. Since so many suggestions for new endings have been posted all over this forum and others there is a real possibility of someone sueing EA/Bioware for royalties if the extended cut ends up being too similar to one of the fan suggestions.

Modifié par StevenG_CT, 24 avril 2012 - 12:28 .

[Taboo]

StevenG_CT wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

An eight hour meeting where I come from would result from something like legal implications or censorship. That isn't what's happening here but I can possibly imagine...........eight hours.

That may actually be exactly what is happening here. Since so many suggestions for new endings have been posted all over this forum and others there is a real possibility of someone sueing EA/Bioware for royalties if the extended cut ends up being similar to one of the fan suggestions.

Eh............no. I've seen some nasty films but nothing has ever reached court. These kind of things are laughed out of court.

What was implied in the Tweet is that he spent eight hours in a meeting with people he respected in attempt to salvage their fanbase and their game.

Eight hours is............wow.

[GLR-0053]

Taboo-XX wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

Insane. People live on earth, Turians on Mars, Quarians on Pluto, Krogans on Uranus and the Asari can live on Venus, Winner!!

Uranus is a gas planet yes? Wouldn't those Krogan have some issues?

I honestly have no idea what you were trying to imply with your post.

That anything is possible?

[Taboo]

GLR-0053 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

Insane. People live on earth, Turians on Mars, Quarians on Pluto, Krogans on Uranus and the Asari can live on Venus, Winner!!

Uranus is a gas planet yes? Wouldn't those Krogan have some issues?

I honestly have no idea what you were trying to imply with your post.

That anything is possible?

I'm all for fun and games. Maybe that's what he meant?

[Sublyminal]

StevenG_CT wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

An eight hour meeting where I come from would result from something like legal implications or censorship. That isn't what's happening here but I can possibly imagine...........eight hours.

That may actually be exactly what is happening here. Since so many suggestions for new endings have been posted all over this forum and others there is a real possibility of someone sueing EA/Bioware for royalties if the extended cut ends up being too similar to one of the fan suggestions.

Dunno how that would even be possible. Considering that the people writing the fanfiction, used Bioware's characters, their universe and stuff like that. It would be laughed out of court.

[Taboo]

It isn't possible. Don't think that for any reason Bioware is in legal trouble. There are far, far worse things the courts can be worrying about.

[StevenG_CT]

Taboo-XX wrote...
Eh............no. I've seen some nasty films but nothing has ever reached court. These kind of things are laughed out of court.

I can think of a few examples in the film world where screenwriters have sued studios for plaguerism and been awarded writers credits and royalties after litigation. It's definitely not unprecedented.

Modifié par StevenG_CT, 24 avril 2012 - 12:39 .

[Taboo]

StevenG_CT wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
Eh............no. I've seen some nasty films but nothing has ever reached court. These kind of things are laughed out of court.

I can think of a few examples in the film world where screenwriters have sued studios for plaguerism and been awarded writers credits and royalties after litigation. It's definitely not unprecedented.

It usually doesn't happen though. It doesn't happen often now a days because studios have control over almost every aspect of the production. It's disgusting. Sound familiar?

[Clumsy Astronaut]

@StevenG_CT
The difference is the screenwriters made original work. Writing a new ending using the universe Bioware owns means you have no legal claim to it.

[Sublyminal]

Taboo-XX wrote...

StevenG_CT wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
Eh............no. I've seen some nasty films but nothing has ever reached court. These kind of things are laughed out of court.

I can think of a few examples in the film world where screenwriters have sued studios for plaguerism and been awarded writers credits and royalties after litigation. It's definitely not unprecedented.

It usually doesn't happen though. It doesn't happen often now a days because studios have control over almost every aspect of the production. It's disgusting. Sound familiar?

EA >.>

[Taboo]

Sublyminal wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

StevenG_CT wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
Eh............no. I've seen some nasty films but nothing has ever reached court. These kind of things are laughed out of court.

I can think of a few examples in the film world where screenwriters have sued studios for plaguerism and been awarded writers credits and royalties after litigation. It's definitely not unprecedented.

It usually doesn't happen though. It doesn't happen often now a days because studios have control over almost every aspect of the production. It's disgusting. Sound familiar?

EA >.>

This is where I base my posts on. The situation isn't much different. Don't worry though film studio executives are much worse.

Warner Brothers 

[StevenG_CT]

Clumsy Astronaut wrote...
@StevenG_CT
The difference is the screenwriters made original work. Writing a new ending using the universe Bioware owns means you have no legal claim to it.

It's kind of a legal gray area in my opinion. You cannot legally copyright a fanfic that makes use of someone else's IP (characters, setting, etc.) but I don't know that the owner of the IP can legally make use of it (the fanfic) without permission either as at least some of it would be another person's original work. I would not be surprised at all if lawyers are heavily involved at this point.

Modifié par StevenG_CT, 24 avril 2012 - 12:51 .

[amp1236]

TEE EL DEE ARRRRRR.

[Sublyminal]

StevenG_CT wrote...

Clumsy Astronaut wrote...
@StevenG_CT
The difference is the screenwriters made original work. Writing a new ending using the universe Bioware owns means you have no legal claim to it.

It's kind of a legal gray area in my opinion. You cannot legally copyright a fanfic that makes use of someone else's IP (characters, setting, etc.) but I don't know that the owner of the IP can legally make use of it (the fanfic) without permission either as at least some of it would be another person's original work. I would not be surprised at all if lawyers are heavily involved at this point.

which means it's entirely possible, that a fans fanfic, was spot on, with what they were planning.

[Taboo]

StevenG_CT wrote...

Clumsy Astronaut wrote...
@StevenG_CT
The difference is the screenwriters made original work. Writing a new ending using the universe Bioware owns means you have no legal claim to it.

It's kind of a legal gray area in my opinion. You cannot legally copyright a fanfic that makes use of someone else's IP (characters, setting, etc.) but I don't know that the owner of the IP can legally make use of it (the fanfic) without permission either as at least some of it would be another person's original work. I would not be surprised at all if lawyers are heavily involved at this point.

It's fair use actually. So as long as no one makes an attempt to market something they do much of anything. This is why television shows like say Family Guy (bad example) can say and do things that they do.

There is a reasonable expectation that a product will be talked about in some capacity and people publishing fanfiction is nothing new. A wiki technically does this.

SOPA tried to stop this.

CISPA is trying to do it again. 

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 24 avril 2012 - 12:56 .

[Taboo]

amp1236 wrote...

TEE EL DEE ARRRRRR.

Yes, I apologize for that. It's probably a bit obtuse as well. I speak better than I write.

[Makrys]

It's just sad we even have to discuss this.

[StevenG_CT]

Makrys wrote...

It's just sad we even have to discuss this.

Indeed.