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[Midz]

Are people running out of things to complain about?.........or how do i get my name up there syndrome?

Photoshopped so what thats what photoshop is for ..

She died so what was a minor walk on and the comments at the time of the twitter announcement indicated not failure by Bioware BUT virtually 100 per cent support .( in thousands and thousands ).Which undermines we the fans wanted meme.
....precis manufactured indignation .

The new reporter so what again dont like her didnt have her its a meaningless pointless complaint .Is another small walk on can ignore .Her inclusion would assume note assume was a marketing decision as bioware is a company they are entitled to do it .There game there resources there time .......and really it hurt no one .

[Nauks]

Midz wrote...

Photoshopped so what thats what photoshop is for ..

So that's what Photoshop is for!
Silly me, I thought Photoshop had something to do with quality image manipulation.

[TheRealJayDee]

1. Not having Emily Wong in ME3 was disappointing. Not having her death in the game is extremely weak. I don't use Twitter, found out about this after release and was simply pissed.

2. Having Diana Allers as she is in the game is weak. Nothing against Jessica Chobot, but the character wasn't well written, wasn't well acted, wasn't well designed and given Chobot's job her inclusion was a questionable decision to begin with.

Combining 1. and 2. we get a pretty pathetic picture.

[bennyjammin79]

It was fine. If anything she had a bigger role in ME3 than the previous two games combined.

[Zakatak757]

I would take Emily Wong any cycle of the galactic week over that stupid future-Snooky garbage that doesn't deserve to be on my frigate.

[Kaelef]

Capone666 wrote...

She is one of if not the WORST voice actors ever to grace my TV.

HERE is all the proof you need.

Wow... I... I... didn't realize just how bad she was... I mean, worthless, yes, definitely... But this was actually hurtfully bad...  I think I'm going to lie down for a bit now...  

[element eater]

i only just found out this happened and i am sad i liked emily wong

[HopHazzard]

Your poll doesn't have an option for the answer I want to give so...

I'm indifferent toward Allers.
I thought the Emily Wong twitter feed was incredibly entertaining and I really enjoyed it.
I never wanted to see Tali's face to begin with, so it doesn't really bother me that they did a half assed job on it.

[Drake_Hound]

Ha suprised they didn't lock this one.

if I were Jessica Chobot , I would demand a redo of the character ...
and no I rather have emily wong , but think they couldn't get her as voice actor.

But heck they should redo Diana Allers , the character is horrible >.< , I wouldn't want to be remembered like that .. especially in a trilogy ending .

Make her hotter godsake ! start using your ING powers to get Diana looking hotter !

[me again 21]

Are people more pissed that Diana is voiced by Jessica, modeled after Jessica, or that she replaced Emily Wong?

I mean Chobot's not that bad looking IRL (she is a terrible VA tho), and Emily never really played much of a role in the series. . .

[Doctoglethorpe]

Agreed OP, it actually is pretty insulting.  Bioware may not of intended it to insult, but them not realizing it would just shows in another small way how out of touch they are with their own fans. 

[Atakuma]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Agreed OP, it actually is pretty insulting.  Bioware may not of intended it to insult, but them not realizing it would just shows in another small way how out of touch they are with their own fans. 

Oh please, it's unlikely that the vast majority of people even remember who she was.

[StowyMcStowstow]

Jessica Chobot had ZERO business being in the game, end of story. Emily Wong was a far better character, and in fact Jessica Chobot has precisely dick to do with anything, and added only a measly 5 EMS points. Wow. For 5 EMS points we get wooden voice acting worse than the epilogue crap.

[Chala]

I'm not annoyed by the photoshop.
But Allers?
Even Microsoft Sam has better voice acting than her

[TheJester000]

Honestly, I wanted to turn the game off the minute I saw Chobot. Why the heck was she even in it, because they wanted a "hot" girl related to gaming that kids might recognize? Terrible. The least they could have done is model Allers after a girl who is ACTUALLY a gamer who plays games, not just a reporter of them. They should have used G4's Morgan Webb since she's not only a pretty face but a huge fan that has promoted the game since the very beginning. Heck, without her imput there probably would have never even been a default femshep. She deserved a spot a lot more than Jessica did.

[BiancoAngelo7]

gyabou wrote...

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...


Then Tali's face shows up in a photoshopped google picture that doesn't even make sense because Quarians can't survive without their suits on any planet, even if you end their plot in the game the "good" way. It'll take hundreds of years to take a picture of Tali like that,

Sorry, but this bothered me. This is incorrect. It's clearly stated in the game that Quarians will be able to go without their masks and suits in a few years; maybe a little bit longer if you don't pass the reputation check and can't achieve peace between the Quarians and Geth, because the Geth help speed up the acclimitization/immunization process. Even still Tali is able to take off her mask at the end of the Rannoch mission for a few minutes, probably because Rannoch's atmosphere is more amenable to Quarian immune systems. So it's totally possible for her to have taken the photo (it'd only take a few minutes) ... even if the job they did on the photo sucked (and not showing us Tali's face when she took the mask off OR Quarian faces during the hologrammatic memories in the Geth consensus mission was cheap).

As for Emily Wong: if you followed the storyline on Twitter live, as it happened, it was incredibly well written, gripping, and emotionally effective (and it was written, I believe, by the wonderful Jessica Merizen). That said it later occured to me that most likely Allers' position on the ship was meant to be Emily's, and she got bumped out of the game because of Allers, which made me sad.

I'm glad they were able to do something exciting with Emily, but Allers sucks. I wish she didn't exist.

Ok so you're telling me two things with your post:

1) Tali time travelled back from the future from 3-4 years from now to give you a picture she took of her on Rannoch

and

2) Emily Wong's death was "well written, gripping, and emotionally effective" by being written by the "wonderful" Jessica Merizan on TWITTER???

Your first point is just ludicrous, I shouldn't have to explain to you why.

Your second point does nothing except to demonstrate that you see no wrong anywhere because you like Twitter and Jessica Merizan, who objectively is just a PR mouthpiece for Bioware on Twitter. To try and tell me or anyone else that I have to follow a PR employee on fu**ing Twitter to know what's going on in the game is in the best case disingenuous, and in the worst case insulting.

Sorry, but there's just too much ridiculous in your statements...

[Rynocerous]

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

Full disclosure, I believe that killing Emily Wong on Twitter was one of the most commercial, uninspired, cheap and non artistic things Bioware has ever done. Ever.

And having read the entire Twitter piece,  I found it very moving and original, especially seeing as I watched it in real time.

Twitter, whether people like it or not, is social media that will be incorporated into future games. But setting aside of the validity of choice in the matter, the way Emily died was , at least to me, very moving and worthy of both praise and tears.

Emily was not a warrior, or an important NPC. She was a chipper, bright person we all contrasted to that al-Jiliani creature and seemed genuinely good. For her to die the way she did, defiant, unboweed, showed a personal stregnth that many minor NPC's never get to show. We never see why a certain person is attracted to Brynn Cole; never see the struggle that Victus must have gone through when he assumed his new position, never saw the effect of all those left behind on Earth except through bits of dialogue with Anderson.

The inclusion of Chobot is a non-issue to me. She is clearly in the game for little more than a quid-pro-quo with IGN and for sex appeal. The former is simply modern business, and complaining about the latter seems odd in a game chock full of magical blue space girls and Miranda's assets in our face. I've never seen any developer saying "yeah, we offed Wong to put in Chobot", and if they did say so... so what? Chobot's inclusion doesn't deny the power of Emily's death, and I'd much rather her have been used that way than as a 5-bit War Asset that you can completely miss.

As for Tali's picture, that is indeed inexecusable, and I still haven't heard a coherent explaination for it from the developers. I doubt we will. I believe they never really intended for her to be a romance option, or important in ME2, and that she was tacked on in such a role. The fact that they didn't take into account people's frustration in 2 with hte face removal scene to cheapen the reveal in 3 with that .. badly done image... well.

It speaks poorly to their own respect of their fans.

[acrb101]

The poll needs more options.

I liked how they did it over Twitter. I would have liked it MORE seeing her in game, but I like Bioware's use of social media to tie into the game. She was a minor character throughout the series; If they killed a squad member off via twitter I'd be outside their building with a pitchfork and a torch. Its not like we just got a statement: "Wong killed by the Reapers.". No, we got a full story. I found it unique, moving, and inspiring. I would rather have read that, than a news broadcast (or email: ala Kal Reeger) in game just telling me what happened. I wish they did the same thing for Kal. 

Tali's picture just screamed laziness to me. She is an integral part of the Mass effect game; She's been with you for three games. The least they could do in the final culmination of the series is show you her face when she takes her mask off. If Bioware showed you her face, AND THEN put a picture of Tali on your desk, I would be fine with it.

Jessica Chobot as Dianna Allers did not bother me. I like the idea of putting people into video games, even if it was some marketing stunt. Its a cool idea. However, her character was boring, and could have been used much more. Not to mention, since Mass Effect is about choices, If I befriended Kalisa-al Julani (did I spell that right!?), I should have had the option to have her on my ship. if Emily Wong wasn't killed via twitter, maybe I could have her on my ship too.

Modifié par acrb101, 24 avril 2012 - 03:29 .

[Kaelef]

The biggest problem with having Chobot in the game was that it took you out of the ME universe. If you know who she is, then it was a nice reminder that, "hey - you're playing a game that IGN is sponsoring!" It's was like seeing a McDonald's sign in the Citadel.

If you don't know who she is, then there was no advantage in having her in there in the first place.

[Devbo22]

HopHazzard wrote...

Your poll doesn't have an option for the answer I want to give so...

I'm indifferent toward Allers.
I thought the Emily Wong twitter feed was incredibly entertaining and I really enjoyed it.
I never wanted to see Tali's face to begin with, so it doesn't really bother me that they did a half assed job on it.

This is how I feel as well.

[Vormaerin]

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

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Ok so you're telling me two things with your post:

1) Tali time travelled back from the future from 3-4 years from now to give you a picture she took of her on Rannoch

and

2) Emily Wong's death was "well written, gripping, and emotionally effective" by being written by the "wonderful" Jessica Merizan on TWITTER???

Your first point is just ludicrous, I shouldn't have to explain to you why.

To try and tell me or anyone else that I have to follow a PR employee on fu**ing Twitter to know what's going on in the game is in the best case disingenuous, and in the worst case insulting.

Quarian immune systems are not so bad that they instantly die upon exposure.  A few minutes to take a photo would probably be fine.   Not to mention they do have sterile environments in the ship.  Use her status to commandeer a clean room for five minutes to snap a pic....   I bet that really caused the entire cosmos to implode on itself...  

And you don't have to follow twitter to know what's going on in game.   Emily Wong's death is entirely irrelevant to anything *in the game*.   Twitter, the Datapad app, the books, the comics, etc are all sources of additional, OPTIONAL mass effect content.

I also don't get the impression you know what disingenuous actually means.   There use of twitter does not indicate a lack or candor or sincerity, nor does it involve someone pretending they know less than they really do to deceive you.  

I can't even imagine how you could possibly feel insulted because someone posted a bit of non plot related trivia somewhere you don't happen to frequent.  I hope you read books, because otherwise you must be in a blood feud with Bioware by now.

Modifié par Vormaerin, 24 avril 2012 - 03:45 .

[Maria Caliban]

The twitter event was awesome. Sorry you missed it.

[Vormaerin]

Kaelef wrote...

The biggest problem with having Chobot in the game was that it took you out of the ME universe.

Just like Martin Sheen and Jillian Murray does.