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Many People Here Seem to have a Messed Up Interpretation of Synthesis


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lx_theo

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 Why do people think that Synthesis would make organics cyborgs or something along those lines? It makes no sense that people would be forced into a cyborg form. In fact, it makes so little sense that it also doesn't make sense that anyone would think that's what it meant. A bit... perplexing, I must say.

The Catalyst told of how synthesis would create a new DNA. He said nothing about how it would alter the physical forms of anyone. What does make sense is that if Synthesis only effects DNA and Sythetic's equivalent. They would be merged to create one fundamental building block of life rather than the two distinctly different ones that were there before. A Geth would simply be another species, like a Human is to a Turian. This is actually the only way it can make sense. If people were transformed into synthetics or cyborgs or something along those lines, it destroys the ability to write a future story coming after because of the huge variation it would force. People still have their free will. They still have their individuality. They are still who they are. The only logical interpretations of synthesis would be ones that change species at such a fundamental level that it can put them on the same playing field without changing the uniqueness of each species and individual. Any interpretation that does not take this in account will not make sense. I don't really understand why anyone would think those to be true. Maybe they are so bitter at the ending they choose to look for the interpretation they can hate on the most?

So please, stop making the silly threads attacking the Synthesis option.

Modifié par lx_theo, 23 avril 2012 - 08:59 .


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inb4 speculations

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I suspect many people will ignore this thread because it doesn't let them vent and whine about the ending.

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I will raep your DNA! ^_^

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I'm opposed to based simply upon the logic that I no one person should have the ability to REWRITE the way the universe has been for BILLIONS of years.

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Synthesis plain doesn't make sense, no matter how you slice it.

Besides which, take a look at the cinematic. Plants and Joker clearly have physical differences, including apparent circuitry. It's not a logical leap, it's literally shown that they have synthetic parts.

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Synthesis means 'combination' in more words. What is this if not a cyborg?

Legion said that geth already were another species even without synthesis. The very concept that you need a synthesis to 'even the playing field' is offensive to the IP's themes of togetherness and galactic unity. This is in addition to the DEM and space magic problems prevalent throughout the green option.

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Synthetics don't have DNA

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*sighs* The fundamental is that you are playing god by choosing synthesis, it does not matter the outcome, you are choosing the destiny for an "entire" galaxy, humanoids, aliens, plants, you are playing god, So please, stop making the silly threads about the Synthesis option.

Modifié par DJBare, 23 avril 2012 - 09:05 .


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Oh yes, the classic "you don't understand" argument...

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Its not what it would make people, its the cultural and social ramifications as well as the issues and impact it would cause on those species that are not at that point in their own evolutionary chains.

First of all, we look should consider the cultural ramifications. Considering we see the presences of various relgions (Ashley and Thane as examples), to "defile" the body in some cultures or relgions would be worst than death, so making said decision would effect those people horribly. Then of course there would be the issues socially of those who feel that they'd have rather died than join with sythetics, xenopobic people would probably go balistic, and ethnocentric communities would possibly impode.

Next of course we have the dealing with the other species which are not yet ready for that kind of power. That type of leap that was just given and not achieved would and could cause massive devastation, actually having an opposite effect as to what the reapers were supposedly doing. The wars would become worst (imagine if during the world wars, even larger weapons of devastation existed like bombs bigger than H-Bombs).

Its just the thought process..Bioware said their ending was artistic and meant to be thought about as opposed to giving us a clear cut ending. Fine, some of us are well read and follow high literature as well as history and philosophy. I am (and many) are simply speculating with the information they have.

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So what prevents these "new species" to create another synthetic race? This option doesn't solve the "created will kill their creators" problem. Mind you, only Casper believes this is the main problem here.

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DJBare wrote...

*sighs* The fundamental is that you are playing god by choosing synthesis, it does not matter the outcome, you are choosing the destination for an "entire" galaxy, humanoids, aliens, plants, you are playing god, So please, stop making the silly threads about the Synthesis option.


QFT

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DJBare wrote...

*sighs* The fundamental is that you are playing god by choosing synthesis, it does not matter the outcome, you are choosing the destiny for an "entire" galaxy, humanoids, aliens, plants, you are playing god, So please, stop making the silly threads about the Synthesis option.


Pretty much ^this^

Modifié par zarnk567, 23 avril 2012 - 09:09 .


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Do you have proof of this or if the end really happened?

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Achievement unlocked:Humanity evolved to max level.

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Zuka999 wrote...

Synthetics don't have DNA


Someone finally brought this up. Glad to see I'm not the only one with this problem.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Do you have proof of this or if the end really happened?


Do you have proof that says otherwise?

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DJBare wrote...

*sighs* The fundamental is that you are playing god by choosing synthesis, it does not matter the outcome, you are choosing the destiny for an "entire" galaxy, humanoids, aliens, plants, you are playing god, So please, stop making the silly threads about the Synthesis option.


Are you saying destroy and control don't do this, too? Choosing to wipe out an entire section of life? Choosing to enslave one of the most powerful forces in the galaxy?

The ending itself is choosing a fate for the galaxy, no matter what you choose. Its not like you're leaving it up for a vote. 

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And despite his DNA being completely rewritten into something novel and new Joker comes out of the Normandy with his brittle bone disease limp. Which happens to be a genetic disorder.

So this synthesis thing rewrote his entire body all with shiny green circuitry in the skin, but somehow managed to "transcode" a defect in his genetic code into this new never seen before organisynthetic DNA of his.

My oh my, how philosophical and artistic at the same time.

What a croq of sh.....

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Zuka999 wrote...

Synthetics don't have DNA



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lx_theo wrote...

 Why do people think that Synthesis would make organics cyborgs or something along those lines? It makes no sense that people would be forced into a cyborg form. In fact, it makes so little sense that it also doesn't make sense that anyone would think that's what it meant. A bit... perplexing, I must say.

There are many things about the ending that make no sense.

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translationninja wrote...

And despite his DNA being completely rewritten into something novel and new Joker comes out of the Normandy with his brittle bone disease limp. Which happens to be a genetic disorder.

So this synthesis thing rewrote his entire body all with shiny green circuitry in the skin, but somehow managed to "transcode" a defect in his genetic code into this new never seen before organisynthetic DNA of his.

My oh my, how philosophical and artistic at the same time.

What a croq of sh.....


Problem pro-synthesis people?

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I'm commander shepard and this is my favorite calculation of pie. And to think Joker thought he would enslave us all the the machine overloard.

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zarnk567 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

*sighs* The fundamental is that you are playing god by choosing synthesis, it does not matter the outcome, you are choosing the destiny for an "entire" galaxy, humanoids, aliens, plants, you are playing god, So please, stop making the silly threads about the Synthesis option.


Pretty much ^this^

I have no problem if he wants to play his Shepard as a god, that's role play, but anyone supporting synthesis should at least admit to this.