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[Dendio1]

I played the beta. Im new to the franchise. I was not impressed. The game looked and played like warcraft 3. The voice acting was subpar and the graphics were terrible for a 2012 game, especially the characters.

Even with the *art style* how can we excuse the blockyness (right click+ view image for a closer look)



If anything the game has me considering buying a cheap diablo 2. Why pay for 3 if the graphics and gameplay feel dated.

Dungeon crawlers may not be my thing...what do you guys think?

Modifié par Dendio1, 23 avril 2012 - 10:47 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

I don't think it's your thing. I played the demo of Torchlight which was made by some Diablo developers and I hated the game. I personally don't enjoy games which just consist of going to point A and B hacking and slashing away and gaining better loot. The only loot games I have enjoyed have been War in The North, Circle of Doom and Too Human and the later two were rather average games. All three had over the shoulder cameras. I personally don't enjoy top down dungeon crawlers which just consist of casting a few abilities and repetitively pressing the same attacking button for the same old boring attack.

I'm guessing the story of Diablo 3 is as a lite as the story for Torchlight as well? Graphics for these type of games are never that amazing from my experience but I'm guessing people playing them for the loot and gameplay rather than for graphics and story.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 23 avril 2012 - 10:57 .

[Chromie]

Wait why would you buy Diablo 2 and say Diablo 3 feels dated?

[Khayness]

The charm of Diablo was when you gathered for an epic LAN party, and 20+ hours and two weared down mouses later you yell at each other in the Act II Sand Maggot tunnels because you are stuck and nobody moves.

Screw constant online DRM, bring back LAN you bastards!

[eroeru]

I'm also disappointed. Diablo 2 was magnificent (if not a little simplistic) - it had a grand art style. Diablo 3 has the terrible glowy kid-friendly 'n colory thing that's inspired from Warcraft rather (aside the other valid criticisms, like the dismissing of LAN, I find the direction in art style the most horrid thing about it).

For me, Diablo was never about the mechanics. Twas about the atmosphere and design.

But with D3, we get a whole new team. Shame that Blizzard North was disbanded whilst the true Diablo 3 was in the making (sometime early in the 2000's).
This seemed way cool:



(from http://www.diablowik...d_North_version)

Modifié par eroeru, 23 avril 2012 - 11:57 .

[Skypezee]

eroeru wrote...

-snip-

Whoa, that does look really nice.

[SFCrusader]

No.

After playing the open beta this weekend, and we really stressed that test out, I'm far more interested in playing once it hits retail.

Diablo was my least interested game from Blizzard's WarCraft/Diablo/StarCraft triumvirate, but now I'm looking forward to some Hardcore mode, and seeing if there's money to be gained in their real money auction house.

Barbarian cleave explosion was just a tease... a cruel tease.

[Hexedcoder]

I was dissapointed some time last year when they announced no offline or LAN functionality.

Especially in this day and age where houses have multiple PC's and possibly a wireless network.

I don't Rage and fault them for it, but I haven't and won't buy it until the price goes down a whole lot since what I got out of it, is that it is a highly priced version of Guild Wars.

As for the graphics...maybe they didn't release full spec for the beta and even if they didn't I don't play games for the Graphics.  It is something which doesn't hurt when done well, and can destroy a game if done poorly...probably the only time I made an exception for that was the witcher 2 (since the game was well done AND the graphical detail went down to stitching and codpieces).

Of course I will say about the Lore - I would have MUCH rather had an MMO based upon Diablo's Lore than Warcraft's...but you know...the ESRB...

Modifié par Hexedcoder, 24 avril 2012 - 12:24 .

[deuce985]

The beta is extremely restricted. I've had it since October. However, it is a bit disappointing. One of my biggest gripes with Diablo 3 is they seem to not care about PvP AT ALL. I'm fine by removing world PvP with the arena system. But at least add something like 1v1, CTF or any kind of objective based arena modes? I mean c'mon. And it isn't even launching with PvP at retail from what I understand...

That's ridiculous. The entire point to grind gear is to use it competitively. That's the entire reason I use to play Diablo. Play with buddies, grind gear, PvP and show it off.

With that being said, my god I'm glad they finally released a date. Each time they released a beta patch they streamlined and cut something out to make it more "accessible". My stomach would growl when I'd see every new beta update...seriously. Just glad they're finally done with figuring out what else they can cut from the game before retail...

Better hope the runestone system is a homerun in customization because I really don't like how they removed leveling skills up ourself. Even the runestone system just got recently streamlined...

In defense of Blizzard, we have no idea how this will play out later in the game. Especially in the Hell setting. So I'll give them some room. I would like to see some more PvP love though...

Already have it ordered and dled it. Waiting on Blizzard to unlock the game.

Modifié par deuce985, 24 avril 2012 - 12:48 .

[eroeru]

Skypezee wrote...

eroeru wrote...

-snip-

Whoa, that does look really nice.

I especially like the concept art:

[Sajji]

I loved Diablo II. Everything about Diablo III that I've heard or read is very disappointing. I used to grind for loot and then show off to others how I'm the best looter in the world. Now you can just buy it? It's cheating, and its dumb.

Looks like Activision is killing Blizzard. Everything is so obviously dumbed down its pathetic.

[Skypezee]

eroeru wrote...

I especially like the concept art:

Is that suppose to be one of the bosses?
I never looked into the original plans for Diablo 3 back when Blizzard North was still around, so seeing these images makes me feel the same way as I did with the original Fallout 3 that was planned by Black isle before they disbanded as well. Either way, that concept art looks really awesome as well!

[deuce985]

Sajji wrote...

I loved Diablo II. Everything about Diablo III that I've heard or read is very disappointing. I used to grind for loot and then show off to others how I'm the best looter in the world. Now you can just buy it? It's cheating, and its dumb.

Looks like Activision is killing Blizzard. Everything is so obviously dumbed down its pathetic.

Technically, that was already done in Diablo 2. Most people did MTs. Difference now is Blizzard is openly accepting it instead of stopping it. Does this change everything a little bit? Sure. It means people who never thought to use MTs before(like me) will be doing it. But I don't think it's as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be, IMO. People were buying gear like crazy in D2. The fact is though...no matter what Blizzard tries...they can't stop it. So why not just put money in every player's pocket while they play? It's a genius marketing strategy, IMO. I think more companies will follow this strategy.

If I had my way with it...I wouldn't allow it. But I can certainly see why Blizzard decided to go that route. It just can't be stopped. If you can't beat them...join them. At least this way...it's a more balanced prospect. Only a percentage of your population buying gear creates major economy imbalances. If everybody is using it...nobody is really gaining a advantage right? Or not as big at least. And the economy will balance itself out since everyone uses the feature.

Modifié par deuce985, 24 avril 2012 - 01:03 .

[Ecaiki]

They look fine when you've viewing them in the world.

One of their goals is to have a game that even older systems can handle, and having top of the line graphics clashes with that. Last I heard you can have a computer from as far back as 2004 and still play D3.

As for DRM, it has to be like that because of the RL cash auction house.

[eroeru]

^^ Not much is known about the reasons why the project was dissed, or the details of the content - and Blizzard is intent on leaving that so. But I really recommend reading the materials in the link through: http://www.diablowik...d_North_version

There's some page with some extra pics, from where shark-man here was taken.

A most frustrating piece of info is that the fans of D3 voted on a poll, and the original art was preferred. Now the polls and whatnot have been taken down.

(the fans even rigged the first voting in the poll, via script, in favor of the old art - which I might say is objectively, artistically much more interesting than the heap of * graphics of the new title)

[Seagloom]

I was somewhat disappointed with it. Emphasis on the word somewhat. My expectations were low to begin with. Not having those met was saddening. Diablo III lacks pizzaz. What I played of it was not terrible. Unfortunately it was not incredible either.

That is the short of it, really. It might be worthwhile at a lower price. At $60? Not feeling it. Not unless the full game is way more varied and engaging. Time will tell, I suppose.

[deuce985]

Did they ever fix the damn stuttering bug in beta? My rig is extreme overkill for this game and no matter what settings I played it at...they had a major stutter bug. It seemed to happen when the HDD would cache. The last time I played the beta was in February and it still had the bug in the beta since October. Does anybody know if they fixed that? I know that they had a massive thread on their forums about it and absolutely no response by Blizzard...kinda has me worried for retail.

[eroeru]

deuce985 wrote...

Sajji wrote...

I loved Diablo II. Everything about Diablo III that I've heard or read is very disappointing. I used to grind for loot and then show off to others how I'm the best looter in the world. Now you can just buy it? It's cheating, and its dumb.

Looks like Activision is killing Blizzard. Everything is so obviously dumbed down its pathetic.

Technically, that was already done in Diablo 2. Most people did MTs. Difference now is Blizzard is openly accepting it instead of stopping it. Does this change everything a little bit? Sure. It means people who never thought to use MTs before(like me) will be doing it. But I don't think it's as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be, IMO. People were buying gear like crazy in D2. The fact is though...no matter what Blizzard tries...they can't stop it. So why not just put money in every player's pocket while they play? It's a genius marketing strategy, IMO. I think more companies will follow this strategy.

If I had my way with it...I wouldn't allow it. But I can certainly see why Blizzard decided to go that route. It just can't be stopped. If you can't beat them...join them. At least this way...it's a more balanced prospect. Only a percentage of your population buying gear creates major economy imbalances. If everybody is using it...nobody is really gaining a advantage right? Or not as big at least. And the economy will balance itself out since everyone uses the feature.

But it's fundamentally a different thing already if you sell the good stuff - it isn't rare then.

One really awe-inducing aspect of D2 was that the real rare stuff actually was rare and very heavy on play-time/work, and felt awesome for that alone.

Modifié par eroeru, 24 avril 2012 - 01:08 .

[Ecaiki]

eroeru wrote...

A most frustrating piece of info is that the fans of D3 voted on a poll, and the original art was preferred. Now the polls and whatnot have been taken down.

(the fans even rigged the first voting in the poll, via script, in favor of the old art - which I might say is objectively, artistically much more interesting than the heap of * graphics of the new title)

I still love the "fans" getting bent out of shape over how colourful D3 is, all while totally ignoring the mardi gras level of colour in D2. 

deuce985 wrote...

Did they ever fix the damn stuttering bug in beta? My rig is extreme overkill for this game and no matter what
settings I played it at...they had a major stutter bug. It seemed to happen when the HDD would cache. The last time I played the beta was in February and it still had the bug in the beta since October. Does anybody know if they fixed that? I know that they had a massive thread on their forums about it and absolutely no response by Blizzard...kinda has me worried for retail.

There was a blue post not long ago that said optimisation is the last thing they're doing.  In that regard D3 is a true beta (to quote said dev), and even one of their top end rigs suttered.

Modifié par Ecaiki, 10 mai 2012 - 10:02 .

[eroeru]

^^ It's still far more interesting than D3 as it is.

Also, how is this colorful/bloomy: (and taken from the more colorful world, as the first pic I could find)

Modifié par eroeru, 24 avril 2012 - 01:11 .

[Ecaiki]

I'm going to withhold judgement until I've seen all the environments in D3. Though I like what I've seen thus far.

Edit: nice pic, clever of you to pick a group of dull mobs, in a dull location as your evidence. 

Modifié par Ecaiki, 24 avril 2012 - 01:11 .

[chiliztri]

No, because I didn't have high expectations in the first place. The real money auction house turned me off from even considering purchasing it a long time ago.

That said, it was fun...in a mindless kind of way. I wouldn't have finished the beta if I hadn't been playing with a friend however.

[eroeru]

Ecaiki wrote...
Edit: nice pic, clever of you to pick a group of dull mobs, in a dull location as your evidence.  [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

 

If I would have wanted that, I would have linked this:



(though the pic was in fact dull - it was the first I could find, as I said - for the sake of not spending too much time )

And really, what are you talking about? The whole game had these colors and aesthetics...


Find a more colorful pic!

Modifié par eroeru, 24 avril 2012 - 01:17 .

[Ecaiki]

Those poor blue beetles in act 2, you've made them cry. Then there's the Fallen, such colourful Fallen...

Also I hear the very red halls in act 5 are nice this time of year.

[deuce985]

eroeru wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Sajji wrote...

I loved Diablo II. Everything about Diablo III that I've heard or read is very disappointing. I used to grind for loot and then show off to others how I'm the best looter in the world. Now you can just buy it? It's cheating, and its dumb.

Looks like Activision is killing Blizzard. Everything is so obviously dumbed down its pathetic.

Technically, that was already done in Diablo 2. Most people did MTs. Difference now is Blizzard is openly accepting it instead of stopping it. Does this change everything a little bit? Sure. It means people who never thought to use MTs before(like me) will be doing it. But I don't think it's as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be, IMO. People were buying gear like crazy in D2. The fact is though...no matter what Blizzard tries...they can't stop it. So why not just put money in every player's pocket while they play? It's a genius marketing strategy, IMO. I think more companies will follow this strategy.

If I had my way with it...I wouldn't allow it. But I can certainly see why Blizzard decided to go that route. It just can't be stopped. If you can't beat them...join them. At least this way...it's a more balanced prospect. Only a percentage of your population buying gear creates major economy imbalances. If everybody is using it...nobody is really gaining a advantage right? Or not as big at least. And the economy will balance itself out since everyone uses the feature.

But it's fundamentally a different thing already if you sell the good stuff - it isn't rare then.

One really awe-inducing aspect of D2 was that the real rare stuff actually was rare and very heavy on play-time/work, and felt awesome for that alone.

I don't disagree at all. I'd axe if it I could. But it isn't something that will truly bother me that much because I had to live with it in D2.

I'm just glad Blizzard made some great design decisions this time around that needed to be in D2. Namely making everything serverside and only allowing you to see your loot drops. No more ninja looters...

And I just looked on their forums about the stutter bug. They're saying they know about the new areas loading and causing stutters...will be fixed at launch. Nice to know. I'd have to lynch their HQ if they let a bug stay in the game since October...

Modifié par deuce985, 24 avril 2012 - 01:22 .