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#101
Sacrificial Bias

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Transairion wrote...

You'd think you might be a tad more certain of what you're actually buying/paying for before actually making the decision to do it...

I mean, if there was a big ? box in the grocery store that had a random product in it, and you buy 20, it'll be your own damn fault is there's no bread or milk (which you wanted) inside.

The fact you spent that much on something you can get for FREE as well is just... no sympathy, sorry. Rushed waaaaaaay too quick into spending your moolah.

The character cards issue I was aware of.  Just pointing out that Bioware could easily have replaced them with equipment or other consumable cards, not even touch the ultra rare drop rates, and still have simultaneously made people happy without destroying potential profits in coercing players to buy packs for a chance at an ultra rare.

The crappy ultra rares themselves I wasn't fully aware of.  I have to admit I probably ignored the raw DPS between the Saber and the Revenant and Mattock, but now I see DPS is everything, and the Saber falls far behind.  I literally have no reason to use it over the other two, even on a Turian Soldier with Marksman.  No burning desire for the Wraith here when put next to the GPS and Graal.

I wouldn't say the heavy pistols are "overpowered" per se.  The weight is enough to make carrying it on a power class a significant enough downside.  Just that the weight of the Saber begs the question of why I should use it over these two pistols.

#102
Highlord Heian

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ABjerre wrote...
My previous point still stands: That you, based upon what you are posting and what it displays about your way reasoning, will never be able to understand any reasons for doing something, besides your own.


Why would I want to understand the "reasoning" behind blindly spending $150 on packs, by choice, and then coming to the forums to complain about it? Why would I want to understand the pathetic self-victimizing bull**** that this thread is full of?

There's no rationale, despite the constant attempts on your part, that justifies making a poor choice and then complaining like it was some evil, devious trap. This pathetic sense of entitlement that you use as an excuse, the ridiculous rationale, it's absurd how you're trying to justify it.

Your meager attempts at insults were sad at best, like a third-grader trying to make me feel bad. Ouch. My feelings. Parent's basement. Good one, top-tier originality. Doesn't change the fact that you idiotically tried to rationalize paying money so you didn't have to play a game.

Yep, must be living with my parents if I know the value of money. If you think spending that kind of scratch on imaginary items is a good idea, I can safely assume you don't have a girlfriend. If you consider that spending more money to save time is a good reason to waste money, I can assume you eat a lot of fast food. And seeing how evolution has clearly been unkind to you, we can all safely assume you're a neckbeard. I can just imagine you sweating as you try mashing your stubby little mitts against your crumb-littered keyboard.

I said it far earlier and you're still butthurt about it. A fool and his money were parted. Complaining about it afterwards just makes it sad.

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cly57 wrote...

Sacrificial Bias wrote...

TheChosen0ne wrote...

Man you could have used up that $150 to feed 10 starving children in Africa

My personal opinion is that the general population of Africa should be castrated for their stupidity in having more kids when they can't feed them.


Wow.....just wow.  This statement actually made me want to throw up.  I'm sure all the women who lack access to birth control/facilities/food/choices would really appreciate that.  :sick:


yup i agree. Lets see how easy farming is for this guy when you have no workers or helpers, that you can pay or get. As kids we were economic BURDENS. In Africa children are economic ASSETS, hence why they have all the children in the first place; to help. Its the OPs opinion, but itsjust messed up. :sick:

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Highlord Heian wrote...
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If you think spending that kind of scratch on imaginary items is a good idea, I can safely assume you don't have a girlfriend...


I know a few guys who "spend money on their girlfriends" for some imaginary reward, so your point is rather pointless;)
Bringing out the old "you don't have a girlfriend" is not exactly going to win prizes in creativity either.

I can see nothing wrong with people spending real cash on ingame items, the equation time=money does apply for some.
Some people enjoy starting at zero and working up their way to maximum simply for the sense of achievment they get afterwards. 
Others play and think "Well this sucks, no fun shooting stuff with a waterpistol". For those the choice would be to either spent countless hours doing something they don't like (aka grinding) or spending cash they earned in less time to get the same result which would be playing using the equipment they like.

From a psychological point of view what Bioware/EA are doing is simply brilliant. Imagine a MP mode where you couldn't unlock by paying... They would loose some of the playerbase a lot earlier (casual players).

Just imagine starting out in WoW today. You enter a city and see only lvl 70s (or is it 80s by now?) dressed in purple gear and know this instant that you will have to spent countless hours to get to a level where they would actually realize you're there. Knowing that you could only afford playing 1-2 hours the fun would be gone quite fast.

Now add the option to get decent (but not highest possible) gear by paying cash. I bet some people would jump at it.

Back to ME3: 
On the other hand, people who spent money are much more likely to keep playing ME3 Multiplayer due to "Ive paid so much for it, I'll continue instad of buying something else", provided Bioware comes up with some additional content once in a while. This will lengthen the duration of multiplayer in total and thus lead to more people trying it out and paying again.

Hurts to admit, but gaming has become a real industry/cash cow in the 21st century.

And regarding the "imaginary" part again....
You do not by chance own ANY game that needs Steam to run ? If so, bad luck: You spent money on imaginary stuff you do not actually own. If valve shuts down their servers sometime (unlikely but not impossible) you won't be able to play it anymore (legally that is), just read the EULA/TOS.

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On "imaginary" stuff:

I think there is a distinction to be drawn between spending money on "content" whether digital or not and spending it on in game items.

I am happy to spend cash on new missions, characters, maps ect. I have no issue with that it takes up development time and as such I feel its fair to ask the player to pay for it.

I see that as massively different to paying "real" money for an ingame item which is allready programmed into the game that you allready spent money on. I honestly don't think that it will prove an effective business model in the long term, because even most "core" gamers scoff at the idea, thats not even thinking about "casual" players who are a big target for games companies.

If games companies really start to push this idea then Joe Bloggs casual gamer simply won't bother buying games in the first place, it is very hard to justify spending money on in game weapons to someone who has just paid full price for a AAA game outside us bioware fan types. I can imagine the conversation with some of my friends:

"what so, i've paid £40.00 for a game and now they expect me to shell out for guns and stuff? Seriously?"

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I dno't have any Claymore, only have a wraith I. Can it work?
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Sorry, posted in the wrong thread

Modifié par hangh, 25 avril 2012 - 09:53 .


#107
Tony208

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eh don't spend real $ unless you're just starting out

getting one of the gold weapons when you're N7 lvl 2 helps a lot

trying to get specific items is a waste of money for sure

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Lol bit late to this thread and didn't read past 1st page so this is only to the OP and the first post.


You spent 150 bucks and got jack I've spent 0 bucks and have all weapons minus 3 event n7 weapons and haven't even unlocked all the char appearances.

You sir have very very bad luck

#109
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Man, it's surprising to see how many people are acting like pretentious pricks about how the OP wants to spend his money. 

Highlord Heian wrote...

Yep, must be living with my parents if I know the value of money. If you think spending that kind of scratch on imaginary items is a good idea, I can safely assume you don't have a girlfriend.


Especially you. 
Not every person values a certain sum of money the same way. Who are you to say that the OP is making an absurd decision spending $150 on something he enjoys? Besides, you spent $60 on an imaginary game, did you not?

Not to mention you lost all credibility when you mentioned the OP not having a girlfriend. How old are you, 12? 
How does that even tie into this topic? 

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LOL.............LOL..............LOL..............

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A number of you are not listening to Sacrificial Bias' message:

THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN.

Whether you spend real life "cash monies" or time within the game, aka grinding, the system needs improvement.

"NEEDS IMPROVEMENT" is the message we need to send to Bioware rather than fighting amongst ourselves.

If you play the game and have bothered to post in these forums, chances are you like this game and would like to see improvements made. There's nothing wrong with that but we need to stop bickering/nitpicking and send constructive criticism back of what we'd like to be fixed.