I would have liked to have seen her in the later Acts. I killed a high dragon in the bone pit, but that wasn't her was it? I'd assume if it were, there would have been a cut scene to accompany it.
Also, what is the significance behind Flemeth slightly resembling Meredith? Right down to the pointy helmet thing she wears...
Also, I assume Flemeth is hanging out in Sandal's room at night. He says there's an old lady with a scary laugh in his bedroom... :::creepy:::
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:26
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I'm fairly certain that the Bone Pit boasted your run-of-the-mill High Dragon of arduous battle, and not the kind that old hags shift into.
Speculation, mind you, but the pointy circlet is most likely a style that hearkened back to ancient times in Thedas. Maybe Flemeth (or her kind) ushered in that particular design. It's probably something that got adopted into current culture and fashion. Although it may be worth noting that the main figure on the lyrium idol seems to be wearing a similar headband (which might be foreshadowing for Meredith's faith, who knows).
I don't know that Flemeth is so much "hanging out" in Sandal's room as possibly checking in on him, or maybe whispering a prophetic lullaby now and again.
Speculation, mind you, but the pointy circlet is most likely a style that hearkened back to ancient times in Thedas. Maybe Flemeth (or her kind) ushered in that particular design. It's probably something that got adopted into current culture and fashion. Although it may be worth noting that the main figure on the lyrium idol seems to be wearing a similar headband (which might be foreshadowing for Meredith's faith, who knows).
I don't know that Flemeth is so much "hanging out" in Sandal's room as possibly checking in on him, or maybe whispering a prophetic lullaby now and again.
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 12:28
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Flemeth is just a gameplay tool to introduce new palyers to the story of their game 
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 03:49
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So there's no connection whatsoever between Flemeth and Meredith? Not even a subtle one?
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:16
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Not that has been shown in-game, to my knowledge.
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:23
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Well yes. I've played through the whole game, but I was wondering if there was any significance outside of the game.
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 12:02
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I imagine Flemeth'll play a larger part in the next installment of the game. The point of havng her in the beginning of the game and having Hawke take the item to Sundermount was to show that she didint die in origins like most of us believed she did.
Both Flemeth and Morrigan need to be involved in the next installment.
And yes, there does seem to be some connection between Sandal and Flemeth, but there is no info on the relationship.
Both Flemeth and Morrigan need to be involved in the next installment.
And yes, there does seem to be some connection between Sandal and Flemeth, but there is no info on the relationship.
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 12:09
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Sandal is a strange character if you think about it. Let's see... he was discovered by Bodhan in the deep roads, right? Deep roads is a weird ass place as it stands. Hell knows what else lives down there - it's like out of LOTR: "They dug too deep." hahaha
Sandal's also slightly autistic or slow... unsure how that works in the DA universe... bottom line is: he's "special" and he doesn't grow a beard like other dwarves. He also is good at enchanting, which is strange for a dwarf.
Also there was that part in Act 1 in DA2, when Sandal froze that creature in its tracks (in the deep roads). His explanation of what he did was simply "NOT enchantment!"
Theories? Thoughts?
Sandal's also slightly autistic or slow... unsure how that works in the DA universe... bottom line is: he's "special" and he doesn't grow a beard like other dwarves. He also is good at enchanting, which is strange for a dwarf.
Also there was that part in Act 1 in DA2, when Sandal froze that creature in its tracks (in the deep roads). His explanation of what he did was simply "NOT enchantment!"
Theories? Thoughts?
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 12:26
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Sandle is addled by Lyrium exposure, according to Bodahn. His ability to enchant is extremely abnormal for a dwarf. He is a savant, which is similar to autism. He's brilliant, but cannot express it. He actually has the potential to use magic, something that interested the Circle in Ferelden, again according to Bodahn. And he has dreams where a scary old lady, possibly Flemeth, is whispering to him.
And that isn't even the only time where you walk into a room and Sandal is surrounded by dead Darkspawn or creatures. Once in Origins, insde of Fort Drakon before you fight thhe Archdemon. And twice in DA2, one of which being when he froze the ogre with "not enchantment".
I'm really interested to see what his connection to Flemeth might be.
And that isn't even the only time where you walk into a room and Sandal is surrounded by dead Darkspawn or creatures. Once in Origins, insde of Fort Drakon before you fight thhe Archdemon. And twice in DA2, one of which being when he froze the ogre with "not enchantment".
I'm really interested to see what his connection to Flemeth might be.
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 12:32
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Ah I haven't played all the way through Origins yet, so I will keep an eye out for that when it happens.
And me too - I want to see where it goes. Hopefully they go back to it in DA3.
Which by the way, does anyone know the general date/year/??? when DA3 may be released? I know there's no official date yet, but just curious...
And me too - I want to see where it goes. Hopefully they go back to it in DA3.
Which by the way, does anyone know the general date/year/??? when DA3 may be released? I know there's no official date yet, but just curious...
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 01:27
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No official release date. I'm content to wait. They need to take their time and make the game good.
At least partially, the third game will be based in Orlais. And in DA2 Act 3, Bodahn mentions that the Empress of Orlais has invited Sandal to Orlais, reason unknown. So, Sandal should be present in DA3.
We have multiple plotlines to expand upon:
The ensuing war between Ferelden and Orlais
The Mage/Templar conflict (and the Seekers)
The Darkspawn (and possibly The Architect)
Flemeth and Morrigan (and Dark Ritual)
... just to name a few
At least partially, the third game will be based in Orlais. And in DA2 Act 3, Bodahn mentions that the Empress of Orlais has invited Sandal to Orlais, reason unknown. So, Sandal should be present in DA3.
We have multiple plotlines to expand upon:
The ensuing war between Ferelden and Orlais
The Mage/Templar conflict (and the Seekers)
The Darkspawn (and possibly The Architect)
Flemeth and Morrigan (and Dark Ritual)
... just to name a few
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 04:14
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True. I remember him saying something about Sandal going to see the empress. So that's cool. I wonder what kind of "hero" awaits in Orlais. Also I wonder if you get the option to choose a race. I wasn't happy about only being able to pick "human" in DA2.
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 05:34
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We also need to know what IS Flemeth? A powerful Apostate, or something more. My son said maybe she's one of the 'old gods'. Maybe one of the Dalish ones. I'm starting to wonder if he's on to something.
As far as Sandel goes, he is a very interesting character. We suspect Flemeth visited him, but what about when he say's this; "One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see". Who and what is that about? Just food for thought.
As far as Sandel goes, he is a very interesting character. We suspect Flemeth visited him, but what about when he say's this; "One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see". Who and what is that about? Just food for thought.
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I just assume that Flemeth is the devil - or is the embodiment of evil, really. They always talk about Andraste (who is like Jesus) and The Maker (who is like God) and how there's that dynamic there. I assume Flemeth is Lucifer/Satan/Devil/Destruction - however you want to interpret it.
I'm such an atheist that when I play this game I forget that since it's fantasy there's a possibility that the "maker" is real in their world. Thus the devil (aka Flemeth) is real. I mean, you interact with her all the time. It'd be interesting, in DA3, to have the protag "meet her maker" haha. Or meet Andraste. Something like that. The whole game series is super dependent on religious themes. And since magic exists in Thedas, then religious deities can't be much of a stretch. Again, when playing this game as an atheist, you tend to forget that the maker/andraste could be real, tangible characters for the third installment.
I'm such an atheist that when I play this game I forget that since it's fantasy there's a possibility that the "maker" is real in their world. Thus the devil (aka Flemeth) is real. I mean, you interact with her all the time. It'd be interesting, in DA3, to have the protag "meet her maker" haha. Or meet Andraste. Something like that. The whole game series is super dependent on religious themes. And since magic exists in Thedas, then religious deities can't be much of a stretch. Again, when playing this game as an atheist, you tend to forget that the maker/andraste could be real, tangible characters for the third installment.
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 06:15
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That would mean Flemeth could be the Fen'Harel in the story, the trickster, if you will. The elves, particularly the Dalish Elves mentions Fen'Harel in their lore and their stories and that Fen'Harel tricked both the Old Gods and the Magisters (I think?).
Also, who says the Maker is real; it could just be a story that Andraste made up...
And while religion and religius themes certainly are a part of the DA games, I don't feel it necessarily has anything to do with magic at all. It seems that one day in the DA universe, the magic disappeared - or was somehow left in the Fade. And the only access they have in the DA universe to the Fade now seems to be when they sleep or if they are mages - the mages in DA universe can enter the Fade to extract mana? they need however to use lyrium to do this.
Also, who says the Maker is real; it could just be a story that Andraste made up...
And while religion and religius themes certainly are a part of the DA games, I don't feel it necessarily has anything to do with magic at all. It seems that one day in the DA universe, the magic disappeared - or was somehow left in the Fade. And the only access they have in the DA universe to the Fade now seems to be when they sleep or if they are mages - the mages in DA universe can enter the Fade to extract mana? they need however to use lyrium to do this.
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 07:57
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I thought they were born with magical abilities.
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Posté 05 mai 2012 - 10:09
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Actually, there is more and more evidence in-game that in the Dragon Age universe that "the Maker" might actually be a real entity. Especially if you've played Dragon Age 2: Legacy. I could list a number of things I've heard in both games, but they'd be major spoilers.
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Posté 02 juin 2012 - 03:28
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Hmmm there are many storys and i know for sure Flemeth is a mythical creature we can only gues and wait for the story to develope maybe she is one of the old gods probably Dumat (my opinion) if the old god of silence was dead at the temple we should not recive anything after sacrifice the four objects.I think еven if a Grey Warden kills The Archdemon they dont die, its like purification ritual and they live somewhere.Thats part of my theory as for Flemeth to be the Trickster i dont think she is much the elven type - thats my opinion
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Well, between Flemeth's apparent connection to the Dalish Elves (including a specific name they have for her), and Fenris' comment that she is neither a powerful mage nor an abomination ... it does lean towards the possibility of her being said "Trickster" if not another Old God.
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Of course my own theory is that Flemeth is an aspect of the Maker, the Chantry say that the Maker turned away from men. But well there is also the question of who came first the old gods, the elven gods or the Maker. It is also interesting that the Maker is a human god and was mostly worshipped by humans. I would think that Elves, Dwarves and the Kossith were created before humans were as it is in most fantasy theme ( well for the Elven part as they seems to be the older race on the brink extinction same as the dwarves...in fact they are but a shadow of their former glory now with humans being in prevalence on Thedas ) I mean that I find it hard to beleive that the Tevinter imperium could sink Arlathan a nation were most of its denizen was touched by magic without outsider help.
Flemeth's power seems to be not coming from the fade.....and I find that magic coming from an outside dimension a bit iffy, there must be more to it than that >.<
Flemeth's power seems to be not coming from the fade.....and I find that magic coming from an outside dimension a bit iffy, there must be more to it than that >.<
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There has been no confirmation that the Elven gods are real, and not just something similar to Greek and Roman mythologies. There is more evidence of "the Maker" being a real entity than there is of the old gods being anything more myth. I'd be interested if they were real, I have just seen no evidence.
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Posté 08 juillet 2012 - 09:48
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I'm not actually sure I want Flemeth to be fully explained. Part of her great appeal is the mystery. Sometimes enemy, sometimes friend, but mostly just seems interested in her own preservation. I like the mystery. I like not knowing what she may do next. I also like how she just knows great things were in store for Hawke and the Warden. Heck, for all we know, she could be The Maker. There was no bride, Flemeth made that up for a laugh. Wouldn't that be a shock for the chantry, and really funny.
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:49
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I'd rather have Flemeth remain mysterious, whenever I run into her I either wonder if she's trying to be friendly or is just pulling my leg. To me she seems to be more of the DA universes version of Puck, if puck were extremly deadly...
As for Sandal, I think maybe Flemeth could have found him as an abandoned babe in the Deep roads and she played a role in how he became to be lyrium addled. Remember the one quest from Orzammar in which you help the woman convince her father to take both her and her casteless baby instead of her abandoning her babe in the deep roads and acting like he was never born, perhaps Sandal was also in this type of situation when he was born and his mother or father chose to cast him into the deep roads. Or maybe his parents were part of an expedition into the deep roads(why they would bring a baby with them I'll never know) though I guess it's better we didn't know. I think when Sandal talks about the crazy lady in his room he could be making a reference to Flemeth checking in on him and doing her whole, "It's all according to plan mwahaha" thing. Though he could also feel the craziness of Meredith's lyrium statue and maybe he's seeing her in some crazy dwarf magic way. The grenades he makes could also be his way of forming his new-found abilities with "dwarf magic". I'm not expecting him to shoot fire from his finger tips anytime soon though...
As for Sandal, I think maybe Flemeth could have found him as an abandoned babe in the Deep roads and she played a role in how he became to be lyrium addled. Remember the one quest from Orzammar in which you help the woman convince her father to take both her and her casteless baby instead of her abandoning her babe in the deep roads and acting like he was never born, perhaps Sandal was also in this type of situation when he was born and his mother or father chose to cast him into the deep roads. Or maybe his parents were part of an expedition into the deep roads(why they would bring a baby with them I'll never know) though I guess it's better we didn't know. I think when Sandal talks about the crazy lady in his room he could be making a reference to Flemeth checking in on him and doing her whole, "It's all according to plan mwahaha" thing. Though he could also feel the craziness of Meredith's lyrium statue and maybe he's seeing her in some crazy dwarf magic way. The grenades he makes could also be his way of forming his new-found abilities with "dwarf magic". I'm not expecting him to shoot fire from his finger tips anytime soon though...
