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[maxtofunator]

The claymore is way better damage wise. My KS and KT just walk around one shotting people and then reload canceling and then shooting another guy, no aim either. It does much more damage against armored enemies as well.
And really, the GPS does not mix well with biotic classes that are focused around explosions. For one)Even a second longer recharge can mean the difference between a pulled/singularitied target exploding and killing nobody else or killing the entire group.
and two) explosions, when built to do them, are much higher damage, and are therefor more useful than a weapon.
Also, no gun is the best gun in the game. The GPS gets this title because of how EASY it is to use, thus newer players start using it and they start to feel really good about it, and stick with it. Tons of weapons are a lot better at doing their jobs, and work for that reason. The GPS works well with the GI, charge, cloak, boom.

[KainD]

crushcrushcrush wrote...

GPS doesn't allow headshots at all.

Nor does it need to really. 

[kyles3]

shpaiderman wrote...

Seriously, there is nothing like frail salarian calmy reloding
claymore while looking at charging brute.

Or a Krogan Soldier staring down a charging Brute and reload canceling with Carnage. 

GPS is a little too forgiving, Graal is a little too unforgiving, but the Claymore is just plain fun. 

[maxtofunator]

Also, because I don't feel like finding who said it, the claymore works GREAT at long range with a smart choke. There is no need for extra damage or the extended clip because neither affect it, thus armor penetration and smart choke turn it into an any range monster. I didn't think so at first, in fact I have a post on a thread about how I think it's only good at close range, but I was wrong.

[UKStory135]

Can someone explain to me how using one of the best guns in the game makes you a n00b?
I do agree with the OP's premise that the GPS X can make any class look good. I only use three weapons in this game, the Carnifex IX, the GPS X, and the BW III.

[SumthingStupid789]

i think you build your abilities around the GPS, thats what i did for my krogan soldier, everything at six besides the shield ability and then i am able to do lots of damage

[Lajkos]

Stardusk wrote...

lordshenlong wrote...

works wonders with my human soldier. Concussive shot, gps shot, concussive shot, gps shot, repeat till everyone is dead.

Exactly my point, the GPS makes any class great but the question is, is the class great or are your skills there? or is the GPS doing all the work?

It's the GPS doing all the work

[maxtofunator]

UKStory135 wrote...

Can someone explain to me how using one of the best guns in the game makes you a n00b?
I do agree with the OP's premise that the GPS X can make any class look good. I only use three weapons in this game, the Carnifex IX, the GPS X, and the BW III.

It's the "noob" weapon, as even I call it, because of how easy it is to use. It is one of the best guns because half the guns are unbalanced on most classes.
Also, it more or less qualifies as the noobtube of this game, with how easy it is to get kills and high damage, yet little skill. And depending on your class, as I stated, there are far better weapons. The best snipers on an infiltrator can destory certain maps, as the shots are a lot quicker, and you can grab people as they come out of cover. The carfinex(or paladin[which is a lot better when near a similar level]) works very well on ability spamming classes and gets headshots extremely easily as well. The claymore is a lot better for CQC, and does OHKOs and then follows up with another OHKO before the gps is charged again. And half of the assault rifles are beast on either Turian, and more or less destroy enemies.

[Dillon79]

so the point of this thread is..... to tell people that are doing well with GPS that they actually aren't near as good as you and your elite friends? ok then. thanks for that input.

[peddroelm]

maxtofunator wrote...

Also, because I don't feel like finding who said it, the claymore works GREAT at long range with a smart choke. There is no need for extra damage or the extended clip because neither affect it, thus armor penetration and smart choke turn it into an any range monster. I didn't think so at first, in fact I have a post on a thread about how I think it's only good at close range, but I was wrong.

The extended barrel works with the GPS ...

[maxtofunator]

peddroelmz wrote...

maxtofunator wrote...

Also, because I don't feel like finding who said it, the claymore works GREAT at long range with a smart choke. There is no need for extra damage or the extended clip because neither affect it, thus armor penetration and smart choke turn it into an any range monster. I didn't think so at first, in fact I have a post on a thread about how I think it's only good at close range, but I was wrong.

The extended barrel works with the GPS ...

Ok, I know it works, but why bother? It already destorys, and making it penetrate armor/cover imo is better than the bit of damage. I guess if you use it up close only and have a nice weapon for long range cases

[Klokos]

Weapon having projectiles with travel times can't penetrate cover.

[KristinCousland]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

Claymore + new reload trick = epic winning.

New reload trick?

[Dillon79]

maxtofunator wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

maxtofunator wrote...

Also, because I don't feel like finding who said it, the claymore works GREAT at long range with a smart choke. There is no need for extra damage or the extended clip because neither affect it, thus armor penetration and smart choke turn it into an any range monster. I didn't think so at first, in fact I have a post on a thread about how I think it's only good at close range, but I was wrong.

The extended barrel works with the GPS ...

Ok, I know it works, but why bother? It already destorys, and making it penetrate armor/cover imo is better than the bit of damage. I guess if you use it up close only and have a nice weapon for long range cases

Anything that shoots projectiles will never penetrate cover/walls, with or without without shredder mod. GPS inately ignores the armor damage reduction for the most part if you use shredder you are gaining almost nothing. Please people stop talking out your ass just to sound like you know everything, what ever happened to the scientific method. 

Modifié par Dillon79, 24 avril 2012 - 01:25 .

[peddroelm]

maxtofunator wrote...

Ok, I know it works, but why bother? It already destorys, and making it penetrate armor/cover imo is better than the bit of damage. I guess if you use it up close only and have a nice weapon for long range cases

GPS cannot be made to penetrate armor/cover using legit ways ... It would probably require a full blown patch from Bioware or serious hacking skills to enable cover penetration on the GPS ...

Modifié par peddroelmz, 24 avril 2012 - 01:25 .

[crushcrushcrush]

I've also read that GPS already does 100% armour piercing so the piercing mod is redundant, making extended barrel a no brainer.

That is if that is true.

[maxtofunator]

KristinCousland wrote...

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

Claymore + new reload trick = epic winning.

New reload trick?

Reload canceling, while reloading once it shows in the corner that the gun has ammo, do pretty much anything. Action button("A", "X" "Spacebar"), a skill that is recharging, a skill, or grenade button(empty or not empty). It will instantly stop the reload action without canceling your reload. It'll take a game or two to get fully used to but once you do its easy to use

[maxtofunator]

peddroelmz wrote...

maxtofunator wrote...

Ok, I know it works, but why bother? It already destorys, and making it penetrate armor/cover imo is better than the bit of damage. I guess if you use it up close only and have a nice weapon for long range cases

GPS cannot be made to penetrate armor/cover using legit ways ... It would probably require a full blown patch from Bioware or serious hacking skills to enable cover penetration on the GPS ...

Ok wow, you guys didn't read my first post, and I didn't read yours. I was saying the CLAYMORE with armor penetration. 
It was an argument AGAINST the GPS

[Sakabaka]

I seem to remember OP posting a rather decent video of a batarian soldier, as well as another post outlining "GPS is better for noobs". Part of the reason why I would say GPS is better than Graal is for the same reason that

He seems really passionate about making GPS users look bad. Arguably, it does make a level 1 gold viable with equipment (although you could say the same thing about some other guns including the Graal), but I personally feel like the users that benefit the most from the GPS are the weapon focused Sentinel/Soldier, (well, Infiltrator is weapon based too, but they're good with practically any weapon), which are well, lackluster in general. 

Power based classes like the Adept/Vanguard/Engineer sometimes roll with the GPS, but fare better without the GPS because of the drastically reduced cooldown.

I'd say if anything, it's more a case of other weapons being not good enough.

[KristinCousland]

maxtofunator wrote...

KristinCousland wrote...

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

Claymore + new reload trick = epic winning.

New reload trick?

Reload canceling, while reloading once it shows in the corner that the gun has ammo, do pretty much anything. Action button("A", "X" "Spacebar"), a skill that is recharging, a skill, or grenade button(empty or not empty). It will instantly stop the reload action without canceling your reload. It'll take a game or two to get fully used to but once you do its easy to use

Cool, thanks.  I was aware of that, but was wondering if there was a "new" trick on the block:innocent:

I need more practice to get a handle of it though 

One noob question about the GPS, as I havent used it.  Does shot track like a power, so you don't have to aim as long as you have an enemy targeted? Shoot up and above covers like biotics? That can't be right, can it? 

[maxtofunator]

KristinCousland wrote...

maxtofunator wrote...

KristinCousland wrote...

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

Claymore + new reload trick = epic winning.

New reload trick?

Reload canceling, while reloading once it shows in the corner that the gun has ammo, do pretty much anything. Action button("A", "X" "Spacebar"), a skill that is recharging, a skill, or grenade button(empty or not empty). It will instantly stop the reload action without canceling your reload. It'll take a game or two to get fully used to but once you do its easy to use

Cool, thanks.  I was aware of that, but was wondering if there was a "new" trick on the block:innocent:

I need more practice to get a handle of it though 

One noob question about the GPS, as I havent used it.  Does shot track like a power, so you don't have to aim as long as you have an enemy targeted? Shoot up and above covers like biotics? That can't be right, can it? 

The shot tracking is based on your target to an extent, it can still miss an enemy(But seems to be rare or based on lag, not sure, as I've missed with it plenty of times while aimed at someone). It does not go up and around cover however, and does not fire through cover(as has been stated here countless times). You still have to aim, just not as extensively as other shotguns/non quickscope weapons

[VikingDream]

crushcrushcrush wrote...


GPS doesn't allow headshots at all.

You can get head shot on geth primes with a little luck if you are above them and you can aim at the giant orange bubble on an atlas not sure if you get more damage like with a normal gun but its fun to try.

[Highlord Heian]

maxtofunator wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

maxtofunator wrote...

Also, because I don't feel like finding who said it, the claymore works GREAT at long range with a smart choke. There is no need for extra damage or the extended clip because neither affect it, thus armor penetration and smart choke turn it into an any range monster. I didn't think so at first, in fact I have a post on a thread about how I think it's only good at close range, but I was wrong.

The extended barrel works with the GPS ...

Ok, I know it works, but why bother? It already destorys, and making it penetrate armor/cover imo is better than the bit of damage. I guess if you use it up close only and have a nice weapon for long range cases

The fact that GPS doesn't benefit from Shredder Mod is pretty common knowledge.

[icemount]

VikingDream wrote...

crushcrushcrush wrote...


GPS doesn't allow headshots at all.

You can get head shot on geth primes with a little luck if you are above them and you can aim at the giant orange bubble on an atlas not sure if you get more damage like with a normal gun but its fun to try.

U can get headshots in CQC.

[maxtofunator]

Highlord Heian wrote...

maxtofunator wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

maxtofunator wrote...

Also, because I don't feel like finding who said it, the claymore works GREAT at long range with a smart choke. There is no need for extra damage or the extended clip because neither affect it, thus armor penetration and smart choke turn it into an any range monster. I didn't think so at first, in fact I have a post on a thread about how I think it's only good at close range, but I was wrong.

The extended barrel works with the GPS ...

Ok, I know it works, but why bother? It already destorys, and making it penetrate armor/cover imo is better than the bit of damage. I guess if you use it up close only and have a nice weapon for long range cases

The fact that GPS doesn't benefit from Shredder Mod is pretty common knowledge.

read the last time I quoted these, we both misread eachother. Don't quote something from far back if there has been more recent things said