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#51
theshagster

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I play soldier alot on silver, never gold because you will just get kicked most of the time. I always use 2 weapons with different purposes long range/short range or regular mobs/elite mobs. you cant cover every situation but you can come close. You have to realize your weaknesses and try to avoid them. You also have to bring the best guns you have. If you are stuck with basic weapons it is tough to hold your own. I have also noticed that if you have AR active you can run though a lot of enemies and not get fired on so you can use it to escape a situation more than once I have found myself thinking "I cant believe I lived through that"

#52
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If you spec the human soldier to have everything on 6 and 0 concussive shot it can be very effective. Especially if you use the adrenaline burst like a shield boost, comes in handy. I've finished gold matches with it, take a balanced AR and spray the enemy down. There is 0 shame in playing the support role and as a human soldier if all you manage to do between the odd kill is soften the targets for adepts inflitrators or engineers, you've still helped. It's a fun class due to its simplicity imo.

#53
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Soldier is completely useless. On all levels.
If you do well with a soldier you could do better with any other class. AR is pathetic in multiplayer due to the lose of the bullet time. BW could learn a lot form the next Max Payne multiplayer and implement time dilation for AR that could benefit the time as well.

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samb wrote...

Soldier is completely useless. On all levels.
If you do well with a soldier you could do better with any other class. AR is pathetic in multiplayer due to the lose of the bullet time. BW could learn a lot form the next Max Payne multiplayer and implement time dilation for AR that could benefit the time as well.


Enjoy your self in the Max Payne MP, the rest of us will soldier on and have our fun.

>_> yeah, i see the pun....

#55
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AR+Widow=Two shots in as many seconds...

AR+Black Widow=6 Shots in as many seconds...

Basically you get a free reload... Obviously this is about as useful as the Quarian Turret on Gold (especially when on Gold you spend 90% of the time in cover on any map that isn't Condor or Reactor

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samb wrote...

Soldier is completely useless. On all levels.
If you do well with a soldier you could do better with any other class. AR is pathetic in multiplayer due to the lose of the bullet time. BW could learn a lot form the next Max Payne multiplayer and implement time dilation for AR that could benefit the time as well.



 FUN is the word here. If I have fun playing as soldier, do I care how effective others class is? And what prevents me of playing more than one class? Nothing, since I do it. People play soldier because it's effective enough to do gold like any other class, and they have fun doing it. If there's better classes, it's irrelevant here..

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thegamefreek78648 wrote...

Challenge Accepted

Level 1 Soldier, Human Male
Location: Unknown
Enemy: Unknown
Challenge: Silver

Weapons
M-37 Falcon VIII - Thermal Clip Expansion 5 and Heavy Barrel 5
Geth Plasma Shotgun VIII - Shredder Mod 5 and Heavy Barrel 5

Equipment
Cryo Rounds I
Assault Rifle Rail Amp I
Cyclonic Modulator II

Powers
Adrenaline Rush 1
Fitness 1

Started out with a team of 4, lost one in wave 2.

Watch for the video later today.

Only uploading waves 7, 10 with extraction.


Here it is.

Wave 7

Wave 10 with extraction

We started with a full team, however we lost one in wave 2

#58
Drummernate

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Someone doesn't know how to pull off headshots....

Stick to powers, they do all the aiming for you.

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Maybe my setup will help you. Human soldier with Sniper, max dmg Concussive Shot. You'll be taking shots with the sniper, pushing those who get too close to you with Concuss Shot, and cheating the reload time by using concuss shot as soon as you get a round into the chamber. More effective sniping than a human infiltrator.

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Pyro-C wrote...

Spec concussive shot to do extra damage to frozen targets, and inherit ammunition effect.
Use cryo ammo.


This, especially with the Falcon, trust me...

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Klokos wrote...

The HS is great as long as you have good weapons, there is nothing wrong with that. While Concusive shot spam can be fun it won't top Adrenaline rush.


Actually it will pretty much every time if done correctly, and it also staggers and knocks enemies prone which AR doesn't do.  

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Adrenaline Rush. Claymore. Nuff said.

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thegamefreek78648 wrote...

thegamefreek78648 wrote...

Challenge Accepted

Level 1 Soldier, Human Male
Location: Unknown
Enemy: Unknown
Challenge: Silver

Weapons
M-37 Falcon VIII - Thermal Clip Expansion 5 and Heavy Barrel 5
Geth Plasma Shotgun VIII - Shredder Mod 5 and Heavy Barrel 5

Equipment
Cryo Rounds I
Assault Rifle Rail Amp I
Cyclonic Modulator II

Powers
Adrenaline Rush 1
Fitness 1

Started out with a team of 4, lost one in wave 2.

Watch for the video later today.

Only uploading waves 7, 10 with extraction.


Here it is.

Wave 7

Wave 10 with extraction

We started with a full team, however we lost one in wave 2


<_< Is there any class/race that cannot do what the human soldier is doing in the vid? Except maybe the others come with better powers?

Modifié par ashwind, 25 avril 2012 - 08:15 .


#64
Urdnot Loksta

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I dont think the human soldier is too bad. grenade spamming is always fun...

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This always make me shake my head wondering what the hell people are doing. AR now gives a 70% damage boost. USE IT. I run mine with a phaeston X and a mantis X. If you listen to the people on this bored all of those thing are the sux but my name at the top of the leaderboard (including gold runs) says otherwise. It's like people think you have to carry the two heaviest weapons to be effective but a phaeston X with a 70% damage boost has an 809 DPS and you can aim it a lot easier than the revenant. Additionally with the light weight weapons you don't have to spec for capacity so you can take your 27.5% passive damage boost too. Concussive shot is for shooting around corners and knocking down enemies when you won't be able to kill them fast enough otherwise. Spamming it means you aren't using AR nearly enough.

#66
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I find it useless, I mean besides the battlefield Soldier having carnage, the human soldier class is useless. That class isn't special at all. Anything that class can do, I can easily do with another class. I can spam powers or use ammo powers with anyother class.

#67
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No problem using on Gold, nothing can withstand close range revenant x with AP and barrel + AR. Just watch out for hunters if you get Geth they can really work you with stun lock.

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gaminazn

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They're actually pretty high damage with a Saber now. Not Infiltrator level as your team mates usually snipe your kills, but good enough to consistently get #2 and sometimes #1 on Silver.

That said, what makes me sad is that the Paladin with mag mod + scope works a lot better. :(

#69
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hip fire revenant or striker is the closest to rambo you'll get in this game

widow, mattock, and gps are also good guns to use

Modifié par Tony208, 25 avril 2012 - 09:55 .


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Human soldier with a geth plasma shotgun is beast. Yolu can take out a gold brute/ravager in one AR rush cycle and do some heavy damage to banshees/atlases etc. AR rush also works as a free survival pack, kind of, which is nice. Human soldier is way better than the Turian at the vvery least.

Then again most classes wreck with the geth shotgun, but the human soldier does extra well with the 70% damage boost. I decided to use my soldier for a game of unknown/unknown gold yesterday, carried the team vs reapers on condor with it.

I honestly don't think I'd use it on gold with another weapon than the GPS though. Falcon and striker might be ok because they stagger, which is another good thing about the gps. You could probably make a revenant work too as long as you had the stabilization mod + the stabilization equipment mod, extended barrel and AP ammo.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 25 avril 2012 - 10:24 .


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ashwind wrote...

<_< Is there any class/race that cannot do what the human soldier is doing in the vid? Except maybe the others come with better powers?


Combat roll
A.R. Reload
A.R. Damage Buff
A.R. Damage Reduction
A.R. Sheild boost

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thegamefreek78648 wrote...

ashwind wrote...

<_< Is there any class/race that cannot do what the human soldier is doing in the vid? Except maybe the others come with better powers?


Combat roll
A.R. Reload
A.R. Damage Buff
A.R. Damage Reduction
A.R. Sheild boost


in the vid <_< 

AR reload wasnt even used. Why? A Level 1 soldier holding a GPS + Falcon. AR is nice but it is not as nice as other powers

Modifié par ashwind, 25 avril 2012 - 10:29 .


#73
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I can agree that any class with those weapons could have achieved the same results.

However, I tested Silver with Soldier yesterday, totally viable. The mattock + concussive shot spamming build (also had grenades maxed) is awesome at crowd control and with the last buff, it completely destroys phantoms now, among other things.

I don't see the class having enough punch in Gold though.

#74
Titus Thongger

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Concussive shot spammers are incredibly annoying for snipers

#75
Hyunsai

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I have the feeling that a lot of classes annoy snipers, judging by this forum...