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[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

And who are you? Are you the alter ego of the lion?

 

I'm sorry but I'll have to ask you to put that in English, the forum software doesn't have an option for Latin.

[Mindlog]

Does this forum do Uoutube embed?

Yes it does!

 

Human Soldier was rad then and even better now.

This reminds me of the story about the kid who wish he was a daredevil, but she never found a bike.

[Creator Limbs]

who revived this

why

"HSol is useless"

Right

[MaxCrushmore]

^ Woah! being more like ProClimbs than Limbs .. nice solo on your Xbox account.

 

 

@LionLegion - don't worry about all the mean people, and certainly don't let them stop you from posting. Now, having said that, you make several erroneous statements.

 

The Hsol is an excellent detonator, yes. But not just for fire explosions, also cryo explosions and tech bursts. Any combo detonation will have a set amount of damage based on the levels of the priming power and detonating power (ie. if both abilities are at 6 each, then you get a 6/6 explosion) This is only increased if there are specific evolutions in those powers which specifically increase combo explosion damage.

 

The reason the Hsol explosion seems so powerful to you is they also get the damage from the frag grenades applied ... frag grenades are powerful.

 

Also, there are several kits with tactical cloak which can inflict massive damage (both weapon and power). Infiltrators are highly OP.

[ThatOddGuy]

I haven't read a single post (including the OP yet)

 

So i'm going to make some predictions based on the title:

 

There is much, much butthurt in this thread

 

Several posters will have attacked the OP for their belief about the Hsol

 

Someone will post a link to a video of a Platinum solo which features the Hsol

 

L2Play

 

L2Human

 

Flame war will start between forum regulars (or semi-regulars)

 

 

Alright .. lets see how much I got right ...

 

 

Edit - then I realized this thread is 2 years old   lol

 

that edit made me lol

[jasonxxsatanna]

 High Damage? NO (extremely weapon-dependent)
Crowd Control? NO

Seriously, why does this class even exist?

 

Soldier is one of the best classes in the game , but like any kit he must be spec'd right and have the right equipment.

I play soldier about 90% of the time and come in 1st or 2nd and thats in gold matches .......

Here are a few of my fav specs for Hsoldier:

 

http://kalence.drupa...23W53313!0379EG

 

http://kalence.drupa...53Z51323!0379EG

 

 

http://kalence.drupa...53W53363!F3CGEG

 

 

 

There are different ammo powers that I use but this are my fav weapons to use with them .

[robarcool]

I think human soldier is essentially supposed to be used in synergy with other characters that can set up fire explosions. Human soldier is essentially a detonator. If you have an engineer in your team who can set up tech bursts or fire explosions, human soldier can detonate huge fire explosions only comparable with sticky grenade and homing grenades. As the word soldier suggests they're strong when they form part of a team, if you use incendiary ammo on your gun you can take out humanoid size enemies with shields concussive shot them, instant kill. If you're fighting bosses, work with someone who uses incinerate and lob a frag every time he incinerates the enemy, the fire explosions are much bigger than engineers can achieve by themselves. and they're more repetitive.

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[Ledgend1221]

Your face is useless.

[me0120]

ur face is useless.

Fixed for effect.

[EXTRACT10NP01NT]

Try this...throw on an acolyte with Cryo rounds and heavy barrel, skip AR,  Go CS Damage/Cryo. at all level.  Carry a light smg if you like with piercing and with the right gear it is 150k+ in golds all day.  This is my fall back if I need quick scores and have used it to solo silver and gold.  Just have to watch where to bad guys are.

[Ribosome]

The OP is right though...

[Creator Limbs]

The OP is right though...

How? High damage can be achieved with the HSol.

And Frag Grenades look like crowd control to me.

[capn233]

Current Human Soldier actually has no relevance to the original topic.

[Creator Limbs]

Disagree so w/e

[capn233]

Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:16 AM

 

There are around four direct buffs to Human Soldier that happened after this thread was made, a metric assload of weapon buffs, the release of gear...

[me0120]

Was it just my imagination or did Concussive shot have an evo to get the effects of ammo type?

[ComradeShepard7]

Was it just my imagination or did Concussive shot have an evo to get the effects of ammo type?

 

It does in single player. Multiplayer used to have the same evo but it didn't work and got swapped out in a patch.

[Peer of the Empire]

Lol @ this necro

 

Note the date.  Ahh the good ol' days..

 

But now that I think on it, they were so good that I quit for a year.

 

The patch notes were nothing but soldier buffs in those days, week after week.  Eventually, they finally gave us reegar, and grenades, then acolyte, then tech combos.  And Harrier, PPR, Typhoon, etc

 

Krogan soldier went from being one of the worst classes on gold (bad/nonexistent grenades, no OP weapon, not even a weapon power for then shitty weapons, staggered by everything) to being one of the best on platinum today

 

They even gave us GI before Reegar.  I stopped playing before Reegar

[Peer of the Empire]

Human soldier was meant to be weak because it was the default and naturally the most popular, and management wanted to differentiate MP from other shooters

 

Hence the godlike biotic and infiltrator dominance in its early era.  A serious mistake imo.  Soldier is most popular for a reason

[me0120]

It does in single player. Multiplayer used to have the same evo but it didn't work and got swapped out in a patch.

 

With the Tech Explosion Buff that might be OP now.

[capn233]

With the Tech Explosion Buff that might be OP now.

 

It sort of is because of a glitch with it.  Against armor it will detonate and then prime for FE's in the same shot so you can chain detonate FE's on armored targets.

[DaryAlexV]

[capn233]

^ things that didn't exist or weren't widely known when this thread was made:

 

Acolyte

Armored Compartments

Cyclonic Modulator IV

Warp Ammo IV

interpenemylocspeed

[me0120]

^ things that didn't exist or weren't widely known when this thread was made:
 
Acolyte
Armored Compartments
Cyclonic Modulator IV
Warp Ammo IV
interpenemylocspeed

What's the last one?

[Dunvi]

What's the last one?

Basically that whole thing where enemy aim is more evil at higher framerates.

 

Also platinum wasn't out yet when this thread was started... was it?