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Even with the Bad end ME3 is still game of the year!


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ME3 GotY? Please...that's a stretch.

Let's see, incoming this year...
-There is this one *LITTLE* title called Diablo 3 that people have only waited for for...I dunno, a couple days, probably.
-There is this small game called Guild Wars 2 that is filled with small corridors like in ME3, Its scope is probably the same and it MIGHT even be SLIGHTLY better than SWTOR (hahahahaha!)
-There is the illegitmate son of a shooter/RPG marriage called Borderlands 2 that's only just a tad addictive.
-Torchlight 2. Can't think of any sarcasm for this one.
-Starcraft: Heart of the Swarm (I'm clearly a Blizzard fanboy...lol)
-A new Call of Duty game, SURPRISE!
-Witcher 2 (console version came out in 2012)
-There is that psychotic game for crazies called Max Payne 3 that most 3P shooter fans couldn't really care much for at all.
-There is also that trilogy ending game called Assassin's Creed 3 that most sandbox players haven't exactly been looking forward to much.
-There is this small little title called BIOSHOCK INFINITE which will pose ABSOLUTELY NO THREAT to Bioware whatsoever with it's shallow story and combat mechanics.
-Darksiders 2
-XCom Enemy Unknown
-Farcry 3

Only way ME3 get GotY is if EA/Bioware pays off all the reviewers AGAIN...

Modifié par DaosX, 24 avril 2012 - 01:59 .


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ME3 GOTY?  nope it wasn't that special.

Modifié par ungodlike, 24 avril 2012 - 01:52 .


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nycmode75 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

No, i think Bioware dropped the ball on a lot more than just the ending.

1. Autodialogue
2. Sidequests reduced to eavesdropping scanning fetch quests
3. No exploration
4. Bad intro
5. Parts of the game are unfinished
6. Game is much shorter in length than ME2.


I agree, those elements definitely weren't good IMO as well.  If this was just a new franchise that I hopped into, I would definitely not be as engaged as I was.  The only reason why I cared was b/c I loved the characters from the first two games.



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I really doubt it, it will be a contender only because of all the 9 and 10's pro-reviewers are throwing at it.

If you're taking The Witcher 2's 360 release in account, it's already beat ME3 in the RPG category.

Modifié par Soulstice88, 24 avril 2012 - 01:56 .


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Greatest Game i have ever played IMO

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You must date an abuse girlfriend, why do they deserve GOY?? It was a complete let down. 

I would hope they get votes based on the entire game start to finish

Thier are better games ou tthere Whitcher 2 is a FAR better RPG done well start to finish

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"Even with the Bad end ME3 is still game of the year!"
No. No it's not. Far from it...

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

No, i think Bioware dropped the ball on a lot more than just the ending.

1. Autodialogue
2. Sidequests reduced to eavesdropping scanning fetch quests
3. No exploration
4. Bad intro
5. Parts of the game are unfinished
6. Game is much shorter in length than ME2.

I totally agree with this but i'd like to add lack of dialogue with characters such as tali. They seemed to of wasted alot of time on liara it's great for liara fans obviously but sucky for the rest of us.

Modifié par Menethra, 24 avril 2012 - 01:58 .


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The only competition is Assassins creed 3.

Honestly ME3 was amazing, even with the ending, all who are turning on the franchise are allowing their emotions to assume control and intervene directly.

This series should be considered one of the best series of all time, not just in video games but in all entertainment medias.

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With that terrible ending, ME3 doesn't stand a chance. It'll probably go to Assassin's Creed 3, Bioshock Infinite, or Halo 4.

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Soulstice88 wrote...

I really doubt it, it will be a contender only because of all the 9 and 10's pro-reviewers are throwing at it.

If you're taking The Witcher 2's 360 release in account, it's already beat ME3 in the RPG category.


Yeah, man. I totally agree with you. I've tried twice now to start new records on ME3, one being an import of my ME3 character, and another being a new FemShep. On each, I got to Palaven and couldn't force myself to play any longer.

I'm picking up The Witcher 2 this Friday when I get my check, and I don't think I'll be picking up ME3 again until they release this free DLC this Summer.

Edit: Although I think that the single-player campaign was heavily affected by the inclusion of MP, it's still kind of fun. Do I think they should have sacrificed the soul of the ME trilogy to rake in the money from MP DLC's / Micro-transactions? Not. At. All.

Modifié par Gyspy Jive, 24 avril 2012 - 02:04 .


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Dendio1 wrote...

1- Auto dialogue was not terrible in every instance. I rather enjoyed hearing out peoples arguements while they bickered back and forth with each other. It was a nice reminder that the universe is not centered around shepard. We also had some great auto dialogue to contrast with the wheel. Emergency induction port anyone?

Yeah, ambient dialogue is great. We had it in the last game.

But the level of auto-dialogue we get from Shepard is too high.

Dendio1 wrote...

4- The journal was not broken so much as refused to update as much as it did in the past. The map system announces npcs of interest, which can be used to track who you need to talk to when wrapping up a quest. Its a problem, but far from game breaking

Its flaws were greater than this, actually. It's hard for me to keep track of what quests I picked up where, and it wasn't very helpful in specifying the relevant clusters, star systems, or Citadel levels where I had started them. This usually led to me picking up the relevant quest item as I explored, but not knowing who or where to take it back to, information the journal failed to give me.

For that matter, I'd also like an exclamation mark on my map over an NPC's location a la ME1, instead of the NPC's name simply showing up as being somewhere in that area -- but that is a smaller concern.

Dendio1 wrote...

5- Eaves dropping dialogue added so much atmosphere! Just walking around the citadel and hearing the senile old woman ask again and again about her missing son, the daughter who talked to the c sec officer about her parents, the volus who speculated about sanctury's money potential. Some dialogue is better served through eaves dropping

Ambient dialogue adds atmosphere.

Ambient quest acquisition simply cuts down on interactivity between the player and the quest.

Dendio1 wrote...

6- Seeing the characters move about the normandy and have conversations between themselves was a great experience. I loved javik and garrus comparing history or Vega and Cortez going back and forth. It was not lazyness as much as a different way of adding life to the ship and story.

Yet, again, seeing auto-dialogue, non-cutscene interactions between Shepard and the squadmates was not something I appreciated. It is the difference between watching a conversation and participating in it.

Dendio1 wrote...

8- This is as much a flaw as it is a strength. Having more squaddies on the normandy would not have added much to the experience. I think its better to do more with less than less with more. I liked the reunion with the me2 squad, but the devs already had alot on their plate. They are allowed room to breathe on the me 2 squad

Lack of ME2 squaddies is not the problem; downsizing the content and romances of the ME2 squaddies to a pittance is. Not sure why they tried so hard to make me bond with the ME2 cast via their loyalty missions, only to toss them aside and fail to involve Jack and Miranda in the ME3 Cerberus subplot or bring them aboard the Normandy during that arc a la Victus, Wrex, and Mordin. If they couldn't do twelve characters justice, ME2's squad shouldn't have been so large. Basically, don't start what you can't finish, especially when it's pretty obvious it'll present implementation problems.

Dendio1 wrote...

9- I liked priority earth. You have your epic goodbye;s to your squad. You have running radio developments with your supporting companies. You gain insight on the state of london before and during the initial invasion. You travel between civilian homes and get a nice cut scene of an asari, krogan and turian doing their thing. It could have been much better, but its far from awful and lazy.

Very few of the goodbyes were as well done as the rest of the game. Liara's and Garrus's were good. The others kind of fell flat for me.

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Very few of the goodbyes were as well done as the rest of the game. Liara's and Garrus's were good. The others kind of fell flat for me.


Romanced Ash, Romanced Liara, Javik, EDI and Garrus stood out for me.

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It's not game of the year to me. There are many games much better than this one this year. They had the chance to be the GOTY but they screw it up in so many ways.

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There is no way ME3 will be GOTY - the fan base is hugey opposed to the game because of its ending and no one will nominate/vote for it compared to the number of other good choices we have in 2012.

History will look back on BioWare and ME3 as a cautionary tale for "here's how to dissapoint your customers", even if BioWare can come up with a more palatable solution to its mistake.

Modifié par Sayantsi, 24 avril 2012 - 02:21 .


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Sayantsi wrote...

There is no way ME3 will be GOTY - the fan base is hugey opposed to the game because of its ending and no one will nominate/vote for it compared to the number of other good choices we have in 2012.

History will look back on BioWare and ME3 as a cautionary tale for "here's how to dissapoint your customers", even if BioWare can come up with a more palatable solution to its mistake.


Whats coming out in 2012? This feels like the typical software drought before a new console is released

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Even if they had a good ending, I think the other things that are being mentioned would keep it from bringing in a lot of awards.

There's just too much true quality titles coming out this year that this rush job likely won't be able to compete with.

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N7Adept wrote...

The only competition is Assassins creed 3.

Honestly ME3 was amazing, even with the ending, all who are turning on the franchise are allowing their emotions to assume control and intervene directly.

This series should be considered one of the best series of all time, not just in video games but in all entertainment medias.


Uh, no.  The trilogy suffers from gaping plotholes and horrible pacing.  

As for competition?  AC3, Max Payne 3, and Bioshock Infinite all stand a better chance.  Then you have outliers like the Last of Us if it comes out 2012.  Naughty Dog has quite the track record.

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Dendio1 wrote...

Sayantsi wrote...

There is no way ME3 will be GOTY - the fan base is hugey opposed to the game because of its ending and no one will nominate/vote for it compared to the number of other good choices we have in 2012.

History will look back on BioWare and ME3 as a cautionary tale for "here's how to dissapoint your customers", even if BioWare can come up with a more palatable solution to its mistake.


Whats coming out in 2012? This feels like the typical software drought before a new console is released


Assassin's Creed 3, Max Payne 3, Diablo 3, Halo4 and Bioshock Infinite are all huge titles.

Modifié par Capeo, 24 avril 2012 - 02:27 .


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Capeo wrote...

N7Adept wrote...

The only competition is Assassins creed 3.

Honestly ME3 was amazing, even with the ending, all who are turning on the franchise are allowing their emotions to assume control and intervene directly.

This series should be considered one of the best series of all time, not just in video games but in all entertainment medias.


Uh, no.  The trilogy suffers from gaping plotholes and horrible pacing.  

As for competition?  AC3, Max Payne 3, and Bioshock Infinite all stand a better chance.  Then you have outliers like the Last of Us if it comes out 2012.  Naughty Dog has quite the track record.


Not gonna lie Max Payne 3 looks great, Rockstar has yet to dissapoint me.

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If they keep up the "75 perfect scores" defense then it might get nominated. If the displeasure of 60,000+ people who actually played the game to finish gets taken into account (and it should) then absolutely NOT.

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Capeo wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Sayantsi wrote...

There is no way ME3 will be GOTY - the fan base is hugey opposed to the game because of its ending and no one will nominate/vote for it compared to the number of other good choices we have in 2012.

History will look back on BioWare and ME3 as a cautionary tale for "here's how to dissapoint your customers", even if BioWare can come up with a more palatable solution to its mistake.


Whats coming out in 2012? This feels like the typical software drought before a new console is released


Assassin's Creed 3, Max Payne 3, Diablo 3, Halo4 and Bioshock Infinite are all huge titles.


Last years line up of skyrim, arkham city, witcher 2, mass effect 3, deus ex HR and portal 2...so much better

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seriously? It's only april and you say it is game of the year?

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No, it's not. There are still many things wrong with the game aside from the ending. The ending is so bad it just overshadows everything else.

An example is the horrible missions in the game. Everyone talks about Rannoch and Tuchanka. Those were great. Everything else? Really mediocre. TONS of lame fetch quests.
Also, terrible dialogue options throughout the game. And you don't even talk to people to gain quests anymore, you just walk by them. LAME.

ME3 has better gameplay, IMO, than the previous games. So I'll give it that.
But aside from that, ME3 took a step backwards in a lot of aspects.

And then...you have the ending. It's not just the plotholes or poor writing and introduction of a new character in the last 10 minutes. It's the fact that nothing you really do in any of the games truly mattered in determining the outcome. That was really the entire point, and they failed.

So really, IMO ME3 doesn't even deserve a nomination.

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 ME1 and ME2 were both masterpieces. ME3 doesn't come close to either of them.