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#151
Shinobu

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Cyne wrote...

No, no, no. The mass effect series deserves a better conclusion, sure the extended cut won't offer us different endings, nor will it get rid of that stupid star kid, but it'll certainly improve on the ending we have now. They can't make it any worse. It's not even about bioware at this point, not really. It's about what has been created here, this fantastic story that still has so much potential, that has brought us together and given us something of real cultural value. To cut their losses and give up on it entirely would be an incredible loss.


Exactly! This is a great franchise. It just needs a satisfying ending to make us love it again.

If you have lingering doubts that the DLC will satisfy you, but you desperately hope it will, please join us for Turn it On/Turn it Off for Bioware. We're pro-Bioware, hopeful and positive. We just want the DLC to be good so we can play this great series again. Maybe we'll fail, but at least we will have tried. Five minutes of singleplayer on Saturday can make your voice heard.

From the FAQs:
- Who are you and what is your motivation?

Weare fans of the Mass Effect franchise who were disappointed by the way
the ending of Shepard's story was handled. We want to maximize the chances that fans will be satisfied by the Ending DLC. While many of us are Retake/HTL members, we do not claim to speak for the majority of either group.


- Retake has already won. What is the point of this?

Whilethe production of a free Ending DLC is a step in the right direction, the announcement Bioware made was vague and could apply equally well to either a multi-hour playable extravaganza or a handful of epilogue slides stating things like: "ReaperGarrus lived for many happy days on Gilligan's planet before he finished consuming Tali's dead body and diedof starvation." Our goal is to help Bioware get the funding it needs toproduce the former.


- Why didn't you specify what a "satisfactory ending" is?

The fanbase is diverse and not everyone wants the same thing. (However, we suspect very few people will be moved to boycott Bioware if MORE CHOICESare provided.) Also, we trust that the company which made the Tuchankamissions is more than capable of pleasing the majority of fans if they internally peer-review their work. It is not our intent to demand specific plot points or outcomes. Bioware has over 600 pages of fan feedback and multiple polls to point them in the right direction.


- Why should I take part in Turn it On/Turn it Off?

If EA is presented with clear evidence that the quality of the Ending DLC will mean the difference between regaining supportive fans and driving away their customers, we believe they will finance a better product. It
is imperative for people who can't currently bring themselves to replay the SP campaign to stand up and be counted instead of being written off as a "lost cause." Also, it's important that the "wait and see" crowd make their voices heard now while we still have time to effect positive change. Finally, it's free and easy to do.


- Why are you trying to destroy Bioware?

We're not. We want them to make an Ending DLC that is worthy of the rest of the game and then reap the rewards of their success. To that end, many of us will encourage our friends who haven't played Mass Effect 3 to download the demo (http://masseffect.com/about/demo/) during Phase 1. We are more than willing to bring new customers to the franchise if the ending is fixed properly.

Modifié par Shinobu, 27 avril 2012 - 04:32 .


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Zolt51 wrote...

 I'd just cut and run.


YOu have any idea how bad that would be? Forget about the EC, the game itself has several bugged quests and issues with it as it stands. Simply saying "we're done here" would be much worse. 

A lot of people are waiting (like myself) to see what the EC will bring us. We;re hopeful. The biggest issue right now is the lack of information. Give us some of that, and the tone would go down. Think of it like (and this is a BAD analogy) waiting at an office. You are told that you will be in soon, but they can't tell you why you're late for your appointment, what's going on, why you have to wait . . . . you're going to get ticked from the lack of info. 

THAT'S what the forums are annoyed over, being in the dark. We love Mass Effect, and we want to see it rock. Not knowing what will come . . . well . . . . that worries us. 

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Zolt51 wrote...
The sooner we stop prolonging the agony over ME3, the sooner work on Baldur's Gate 3 can begin. What say ye?


Umm NO Please for the love of god do not allow Bioware to touch Baldur's Gate. I couldn't stand them messing that series up too.:(

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Forget bout the EC. If I were Bioware...


Well.... good thing you're not us then. ;)



:devil:


Every time you post all I see is snarky one liners taking hits at people in the community. I'm not sure what mods are for but thats like Bioware giving us a great game and then shoving it back in our faces with a horrible ending..........oh wait.

Modifié par malhar34, 27 avril 2012 - 05:42 .


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Keladis wrote...

Zolt51 wrote...
The sooner we stop prolonging the agony over ME3, the sooner work on Baldur's Gate 3 can begin. What say ye?


Umm NO Please for the love of god do not allow Bioware to touch Baldur's Gate. I couldn't stand them messing that series up too.:(


I feel the same way. They'll just end up ruining it.

Before I would have completely disagreed with this. This shows my total lack of confidence for Bioware. :(

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RaggieRags wrote...

Adanu wrote...

Oh look, another troll thread with lots of stupid.

BG3 can blow me.


Thank you contibuting something worthwhile yourself, then.


If you're allowed to spam the forums, so am I allowed to spam your useless thread.

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 I'm still finding it a little hard to believe that people are so ready to condemn an entire game developer over what is ostensibly a few minutes of footage. 

No, I'm not very happy with the ending. But that doesn't mean I wasn't very, very, very happy with everything before then. I can confidently say that ME3 is an incredible experience, and I refuse to let a comparatively small concern overshadow my enjoyment of the game. 

I also understand that the ending was meant to be the culmination of the time and effort one has put into the entire series. Insofar as the ending of the story is also the end for which one is striving in playing the game, I can see why many would be so viscerally disappointed, angry and frustrated. But I don't play games this way. I play games because I have fun while playing them, not because I want to scramble to the end. Playing ME3 isn't like going to the dentist, where you suffer through a midly discomforting experience so that you can achieve some other end, like having nice teeth. That's absurd, just as absurd as the notion that an ending can somehow take away the fun that you had previously enjoyed playing the game. 

I can't stop anyone from boycotting Bioware for the rest of their lives. But I certainly know that if I were to do so, I would never be able to stop thinking about the new experiences that I would have missed, all because of a transient and highly particular dissatisfaction. 

Modifié par Proletariat, 27 avril 2012 - 07:24 .


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That is exactly why you shouldn't be Bioware, at least they are trying to do something about this 'mistake' where as you just want to do the typical villian move where it all goes wrong and you try to escape.


Pretty much this. And your OP there, TC... well all I can really say is that it's obvious that you have zero innate talent for public relations and what that means to a company when a good 80% of their fanbase is furious.

You try to mend the wound, and hope the scars fade.

If they don't they stand to lose A LOT of customers and in consequence... money. This would cause the full "absorbtion" of BioWare into the EA collective... which leads to things like Command and Conquer 4.

I don't want what happened to Westwood to happen to BioWare. And I'm sure BioWare doesn't either.

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I don't think BioWare should forget the Extended Content DLC. If they can clarify the ending bring closure, an epilogue, explain the plot holes and many other things that will satisfy my gaming and story experience of ME3 then I will be satisfied. I like BioWare I trusted them and I'm willing to give them the chance to fix the problems. Actions will speak louder then words and time will only tell if they can do such things.

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fchopin wrote...

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I guess I'm part of that 20% then.



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I tend to agree with the OP, to be honest.

There was a lot of good in Mass Effect 3. A lot. Bioware are still an incredibly talented studio as a whole - I just think they need to be allowed to breathe. Electronic Arts needs to get off the main studio's back and just give everyone some space to recoup and really develop something special again.

There's no coming back after that ending to Mass Effect 3. What made the world special is ruined. Just let it die. Leave it alone. Move on. It's a tradgic end to what is still, in my opinion, one of the best games of all time (Mass Effect 1).

Wendt130 wrote...

... explain the plot holes...



This is exactly why I think they should just let it die. You can't explain it. Literally no amount of hand waving will fix that ending.

Modifié par T1l, 27 avril 2012 - 08:10 .


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malhar34 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Forget bout the EC. If I were Bioware...


Well.... good thing you're not us then. ;)



:devil:


Every time you post all I see is snarky one liners taking hits at people in the community. I'm not sure what mods are for but thats like Bioware giving us a great game and then shoving it back in our faces with a horrible ending..........oh wait.


You can't talk to the Cm like that!

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Forget bout the EC. If I were Bioware...


Well.... good thing you're not us then. ;)



:devil:


Pretty much this. You people need to lose that chip on your shoulder. I, for one, am quite amused at CP's so-called 'snarkiness'. Reminds me he's still just a dude.