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[ElectroNeonPanda]

Is there some obvious thing I'm missing about the Arc Pistol?  On paper it should outshine the Carnifex and yet whenever I have a moment of madness and swap it out on a run I'm always massively underwhelmed by its damage.  Sure, it has a phenomenal rate of fire and it can be charged but the former just eats through your ammo faster and the latter really doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference.  As soon as I switch back to the Carni I'm merrily popping heads off with every other shot.

Maybe it's just that the Carni is so good and all the other HP's are tuned correctly.  Come to think of it, the Scorpion suffers from the same issue as well and it's an N7 weapon.  Maybe HPs, with the exception of the Carni, need some lovin'.

[Descy_]

Its a terrible version of overload in gun form.

[Axialbloom]

It is one the worst guns in the game.

[Grimy Bunyip]

the rate of fire is 550.
~109 ms between shots.

How fast can you double click?
remember if your second click comes in 100 ms instead of 110, you won't fire your next arcpistol shot.
And it's not really humanly possible to realize you misclicked and click again after 10 ms.

that's why. On paper it looks nice.

but most humans click around once every 100 ms, tops.
So when they try their hardest, half the time they will click too quick, which essentially doubles the time before firing the next shot for that round.

it's very hard to access the full potential of the firing rate.
You'll likely get 1.5x less or so, around IE 360 RPM instead of 550 RPM

Modifié par Grimy Bunyip, 24 avril 2012 - 05:32 .

[LostinJersey]

you're missing a good weapon from your pack

[Tangster]

It's a really heavy predator or a a really slow carnifex.
The charged shots do bypass shield gate, but the weapon is still pretty crap.

[Mozts]

I think we can all agree: Arc Pistol, the worst weapon in game.

[samb]

I love this gun. It's not for everyone but with practise it is a beast. Either charge it for damage or mash it for quick continuous fire. It's best trait is it's accuracy and lack of recoil. It will hit where you point it, and stay on target (as long you don't move). Oh it ignores shield gate also, which is kind of a big deal. Fully charged it deals more damage than a carifex, but you can't take cover while you do that.

[InfamousResult]

If, for some reason, you wanted to make a pure-melee character, the Arc Pistol is a heavier choice. It's the only chargeable weapon that will discharge automatically the moment you enter Heavy Melee, and will hit the enemy with 100% certainty. Slap on a Melee Stunner V, and you're good to go; but that's ONLY if you don't mind the additional recharge time. And if you're only interested in Melee kills.

.. so, yeah, kind of terrible in hindsight. Needs a buff.

[zhk3r]

I thought the Incisor was the worst weapon in the game. Then I tried the Arc Pistol.

[Homey C-Dawg]

It should get an increased damage modifier against shields so it can at least fill a role other than "novelty".

[Zhuinden]

zhk3r wrote...

I thought the Incisor was the worst weapon in the game. Then I tried the Arc Pistol.

How about the Geth Pulse Rifle?

[XxIveGotKrabsxX]

i use it with my Asari, Stasis tuned for extra damage + Fully Charged headshot = Awesomeness (to me anyway)

[zhk3r]

Zhuinden wrote...

How about the Geth Pulse Rifle?

Better than the Arc Pistol, and useful for setting up Tech Bursts. I would rather use the GPR than the GPSMG, to be honest. The GPR can't compete with the Revenant or even the Phaeston. But it's at least usable, as the Arc Pistol is not.

[fayt002]

i used it once, it was good for headshots on silver, but wouldn't do good in gold

[paincanbefun]

zhk3r wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

How about the Geth Pulse Rifle?

Better than the Arc Pistol, and useful for setting up Tech Bursts. I would rather use the GPR than the GPSMG, to be honest. The GPR can't compete with the Revenant or even the Phaeston. But it's at least usable, as the Arc Pistol is not.

i prefer the pulse rifle to the phaeston- for silver.  reave+ warp ammo is really nice and the stability is good at long range.  i need a phalanx with armor pen too, but that's still 200% cd on my justicar.  pretty useless on gold though, with all the armor.

[Poison_Berrie]

ElectroNeonPanda wrote...

Maybe it's just that the Carni is so good and all the other HP's are tuned correctly.  Come to think of it, the Scorpion suffers from the same issue as well and it's an N7 weapon.  Maybe HPs, with the exception of the Carni, need some lovin'.

The Scorpion suffers the same fate as other grenade weapons, lag glitches.
Otherwise it's a beast of a weapon, ideal for stunlocking enemies and capable of destroying clusters of enemies.

[Dashmundo]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

ElectroNeonPanda wrote...

Maybe it's just that the Carni is so good and all the other HP's are tuned correctly.  Come to think of it, the Scorpion suffers from the same issue as well and it's an N7 weapon.  Maybe HPs, with the exception of the Carni, need some lovin'.

The Scorpion suffers the same fate as other grenade weapons, lag glitches.
Otherwise it's a beast of a weapon, ideal for stunlocking enemies and capable of destroying clusters of enemies.

The Scorpion lets you down only when trying to shoot too often. Like the falcon, if you space the shots, you never have a dud.

Basically, use a power or meleé if an enemy (Hunter?) gets close enough for you to panic.

[ZeroDivision]

I'd just like to point out that the Arc Pistol 10 is capable of 1-shotting Phantoms on gold in the hands of an infiltrator using a damage mod 5. Add an ammo type and a rail and it actually overkills them.

[Phoenix Burning]

samb wrote...

I love this gun. It's not for everyone but with practise it is a beast. Either charge it for damage or mash it for quick continuous fire. It's best trait is it's accuracy and lack of recoil. It will hit where you point it, and stay on target (as long you don't move). Oh it ignores shield gate also, which is kind of a big deal. Fully charged it deals more damage than a carifex, but you can't take cover while you do that.

Finally! Someone who agrees with me!

[Hyperglide]

Great in SP, sucks in MP.

[BoomDynamite]

I kinda' like it. To me, it is a better version of the Predator. It does similar (if not more) damage to the Predator, when charged can outdo the Phalanx, has a nice clip size, and is versatile. The only problem I have with it is its weight. It's like your carrying a Hornet + a Predator. Overall, it is very good for power classes.

[Tangster]

BoomDynamite wrote...

I kinda' like it. To me, it is a better version of the Predator. It does similar (if not more) damage to the Predator, when charged can outdo the Phalanx, has a nice clip size, and is versatile. The only problem I have with it is its weight. It's like your carrying a Hornet + a Predator. Overall, it is very good for power classes.

An Arc X does less damage than a Predator I.

ZeroDivision wrote...

I'd just like to point out that the Arc Pistol 10 is capable of 1-shotting Phantoms on gold in the hands of an infiltrator using a damage mod 5. Add an ammo type and a rail and it actually overkills them.

 
Post up your maths please. I don't agree.

Charged damage=318.6
Actual damage = 318.6 * [1+0.9(cloak bonus)+0.225(damage V)+0.2(huntermode)] * 2(headshot) = 1497.42
Phantom barrier = 1687.5

Modifié par Tangster, 24 avril 2012 - 07:17 .

[BoomDynamite]

Tangster wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

I kinda' like it. To me, it is a better version of the Predator. It does similar (if not more) damage to the Predator, when charged can outdo the Phalanx, has a nice clip size, and is versatile. The only problem I have with it is its weight. It's like your carrying a Hornet + a Predator. Overall, it is very good for power classes.

An Arc X does less damage than a Predator I.

How?

[x-president]

I like it. Personally I don't like the low ammo, slow firing rate of some of the pistols.