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Unused/cut Jack, Grunt, Jacob, Zaeed, Geth Prime combat lines during final battle + unused/cut GUI with assigning War Assets during final battle


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ArchDuck

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SimplePlan2k8 wrote...

Just another handful of proof that the ending was rushed and butchered due to time constraints


The geth dialogue would have added a lot to the end IMO.

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I hope Bioware acknowledge this thread, and not just watch it. Can't wait to see how they try to get out of this one; I seriously doubt anyone would've had anything against another 6 months or hell even another year of development time to make it all work as it should.

Hold the line!

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Spectre Impersonator

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 Clear evidence that the game was rushed out, probably because of pressure from EA. no one wanted it turning out the way it did, especially not Bioware. How sad. 

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They needed another 6 months at least.
Hell bioware should have taken a year. Alot of people would have ****ed, me included most likely but we would have been blown away and happy as ****.

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From Twitter.

"We record a *lo* of extra VO. We don't use all of it, and by not using something- it doesn't mean there was content attached to it to cut."

Mr. Gamble is correct here. Just because the content exists doesn't mean that anything substantial was around it. They intended not to use it and they didn't. They CAN however use it to make the EC better.

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SaladinDheonqar

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As long as EA's at the helm, don't expect things to change.

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Deltakarma wrote...

Wait! There must be a Rachni Queen talk.... must.... see.... this....

And hopefully this EC will ACTUALLY give us something with our LI's. Agreed?


Sadly no, there doesn't seem to be any additional dialogue for the Rachni Queen, at least not in the ending.

Modifié par Flidget, 25 avril 2012 - 06:47 .


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skarbonke wrote...

i hope you are wrong

Trust me; so do I.

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Link?

All I can say is Jessica Merizan's twitter account. It was a couple of weeks ago as a reply to a fan question, but the search function isn't giving me anything...

LKx wrote...

We've been told a lot of things pre-release, let's hope that also this is bull**** like them! :P

We can hope, but be careful about what you expect.

And besides, we were promised something big and got something stripped down and pathetic. I don't think broken promises can work in reverse like that.

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Twitter.

"We record a *lo*
of extra VO. We don't use all of it, and by not using something- it
doesn't mean there was content attached to it to cut."

Mr. Gamble
is correct here. Just because the content exists doesn't mean that
anything substantial was around it. They intended not to use it and they
didn't. They CAN however use it to make the EC better.

That's a very generic and vague statement, though, and doesn't necessarily reflect the situation with this specific content.

Mirrored gender-specific dialogue between male and female Shepard definitely falls under what he describes, but dialogue for an entire non-existent scenario...

Modifié par JediMB, 25 avril 2012 - 07:12 .


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thesnake777 wrote...

They needed another 6 months at least.
Hell bioware should have taken a year. Alot of people would have ****ed, me included most likely but we would have been blown away and happy as ****.


Personally I was happy when the game was delayed the first time, since it made me feel that they were dedicated to making a quality product. I would have felt the same way about a second delay.

Whoops, I guess.

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LKx wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

Looking at leaked script, it seems like they were also planning (in
early stages at least) to have an UI (user interface) where we would be
assigning our War Assets during the battle, Suicide Mission-style:


You have GOT to be kidding me.

Our old squadmates and all the War Assets were supposed to actually take part in the final battle?  AND THIS WAS CUT?  I just... what?!  

Alongside the bad writing and plot holes the ending gave us, this was my biggest issue.  I really, really, really hope this gets implemented.  It won't substitute a retcon for Starkid but it'd make me a happy camper again.


Indeed.

However i belive them when they say that this wasn't "cut", it was never really implemented (i mean, they prepared all this for the actual implementation, but since it was all rushed they've never actually  implemented it), which is still a shame.


Well I think we can safely say that, they never got around to implementing it.  Still you'd think this sort of would've gone without saying especially in the ending... I gladly would've waited another year if it meant getting an actual ending.  Instead of the last level we got: an extended hoarde mode with horrific writing to top it off right at the end.

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I'm still pissed.

#462
Cobretti ftw

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What the...? Why was it cut off in the first place?

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DAMN YOU BIOWAREA AND EA!!!!!

Ill tell you what, give me Biowares adrees and ill send my copy back and they can return it when they actually finish the game. Not 70% of it.

Modifié par Baihu1983, 25 avril 2012 - 07:44 .


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Cobretti ftw

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YOu guys are sure thats not suposed to be in the extended cut?

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Baihu1983

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Cobretti ftw wrote...

YOu guys are sure thats not suposed to be in the extended cut?


Bioware said no new gameplay parts just more on the ending scenes.

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Please Bioware restore the cut content for the Extened Cut! That's the way to do it. Plus epilogue cutscenes showing what will happen to my squadmates & the galaxy based on my decisions & war assets.

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Jacob sounds like a personal trainer motivating someone to finish out a set.

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This is the first post I've ever made in this forum...and I'm only posting because this makes me sad...so very sad :( I was expecting Mass Effect 3 to end somewhat like ME2 where we would have control over squad and what happens, but all I got was RGB. I actually brought up the origin internet explorer after talking to the starchild to see if I did something wrong during my playthrough to have gotten those endings. The dlc coming out better be good...

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Cobretti ftw wrote...

What the...? Why was it cut off in the first place?



So that the game didn't get pushed back into later financial quarters

(Would have been lost money)

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Baihu1983

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cerberus1701 wrote...

Cobretti ftw wrote...

What the...? Why was it cut off in the first place?



So that the game didn't get pushed back into later financial quarters

(Would have been lost money)


Instead they lost fans.

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This makes the endings WORSE. Knowing what could have been.... ugh. I am sad.  It just shows that "We didn't know there was a huge demand for it" was bull.

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Baihu1983 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Cobretti ftw wrote...

What the...? Why was it cut off in the first place?



So that the game didn't get pushed back into later financial quarters

(Would have been lost money)


Instead they lost fans.



They don't know that yet. better to deal with the consequeces you're sure about and hope for the best later.

I'm sure that's part of the mindset that went into the final call.

When ME4 is met with a resounding "meh" of preorders, they'll deal with that then.

Fact is though that there's far too large a portion of the gameplay that was (now) verifiably cut to claim "artistic choice."

No one would put that much work into things like the fleet GUI to then decide that what they went with was actually the better choice.

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cerberus1701 wrote...

Baihu1983 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Cobretti ftw wrote...

What the...? Why was it cut off in the first place?



So that the game didn't get pushed back into later financial quarters

(Would have been lost money)


Instead they lost fans.



They don't know that yet. better to deal with the consequeces you're sure about and hope for the best later.

I'm sure that's part of the mindset that went into the final call.

When ME4 is met with a resounding "meh" of preorders, they'll deal with that then.

Fact is though that there's far too large a portion of the gameplay that was (now) verifiably cut to claim "artistic choice."

No one would put that much work into things like the fleet GUI to then decide that what they went with was actually the better choice.


Also its not like ME3 was the only game EA had coming out that time. They could have waited and maybe not spent how many million on Pocap?

A more finished product would have done very good things for this.

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ok... is final not buying EA games anymore.

I either go Ahoy or Bargain bin with them

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OMFG I LOVE GETH PRIME'S DIALOGUE!!!

The Geth are so emotional, even caring about rebuilding and reinforcing the quarians in battle.

I felt so bad that the Star-Brat claims otherwise. Obivously the brat was wrong.