I realise this has probably been talked over already but I figured I would state my opinion as a long time fan of Bioware.
Well, I just bought and have been playing The Witcher 2. The only thing I can keep thinking (besides how bloody awesome it is) is that THIS is what Dragon Age 2 SHOULD have been.
Colourful and rich areas, gritty storyline, mature themes, compelling prot/ant-agonists...I mean really, it just pisses all over the travesty that is DA2.
Generally, the dialogue is handled flawlessly in all Bioware games and it's generally the strongest area of any of their games but man, DA2 gets owned by TW2 in even that respect.
Just something for the DA3 development guys and also people who havent yet played The Witcher 2 to consider.
Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but...
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 07:32
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Unfortunately TW 2 doesn't have character creation. That's too bad. Because without character creation I can't play it. I rather bashed my head against the wall frustrated with Hawke's as PC than playing as Geralt in TW 2.
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 07:45
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I really wish I understood what was so great about TW2. I just found it to be pretty average.
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 08:00
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It's an excellent example of a certain type of RPG, as long as you ignore the combat system.Atakuma wrote...
I really wish I understood what was so great about TW2. I just found it to be pretty average.
I wouldn't mind if BioWare made an RPG like the Witcher series, but I suspect most BioWare fans would scream bloody murder.
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 08:09
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I could not get into Witcher 2. Playing Geralt is not fun. He is even a more set character than Hawke. I played through Witcher 1 and started Witcher 2. CDProjectK changed the control system when they switched from the Aurora to the Red Engine. The Aurora engine allowed for the entire came to be controlled by the mouse. The Red engine requires the use of keyboard/mouse or a controller. I not happy with the combat system. Since a great deal of the game is spent in combat it became a non-starter.
DA2's control system is entirely mouse based. You really do not have to touch the keyboard unless you wish to use it.
DA2 allows me control of an entire party. TW2 does not. TW2 also ignored all my choices form TW1.
DA2's control system is entirely mouse based. You really do not have to touch the keyboard unless you wish to use it.
DA2 allows me control of an entire party. TW2 does not. TW2 also ignored all my choices form TW1.
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 08:19
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Huge Bioware fan as I am, I admit I felt that same way when I played The Witcher 2. Of course there is huge differences between the two types of RPG, and it's not like DA 2 didn't have strengths and The Witcher 2 didn't have weaknesses. All in all I think The Witcher 2 was a game that really lived up to it's own potential much, much better than DA 2.
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 08:23
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TW 2 has its problems which have been mentioned:
-Set Character - You are Geralt of Rivia and not your own drop in and there is no "party" of adventurers. The closest you get is if say Triss is following you around blowing things up.
-Combat Changes from TW1 to TW2 - It messed with some fans of the first game (but there weren't many and combat in TW1 sucked so bad it was modded out by the fanbase)
-Inventory Management and Micromanagement - If you play the hard difficulties in TW2 you are going to be spending most of your time staring at menus selecting potions, oils, runestones before you go into every single fight.
-Its not funny - There is almost no comic relief in the game compared to the Interplayish games people on these boards are used to playing, the game tries to be so serious, Geralt is so monotone that even if he is joking or threatening he almost has to say "That was a Joke"
---But then again TW2 does have Phillipa Einhart....Yeahhh that is one messed up woman. I think its also the first time you see Geralt smirk.
What most people think of when they think of what part of TW2 can be brought into DA is the way the story unfolds. The Choice-Consequence implementation in TW2 is so well done the game can progress through different plot lines into completely different resolutions, and you will never see the content storyline you decided not to follow unless you replay the game.
-Set Character - You are Geralt of Rivia and not your own drop in and there is no "party" of adventurers. The closest you get is if say Triss is following you around blowing things up.
-Combat Changes from TW1 to TW2 - It messed with some fans of the first game (but there weren't many and combat in TW1 sucked so bad it was modded out by the fanbase)
-Inventory Management and Micromanagement - If you play the hard difficulties in TW2 you are going to be spending most of your time staring at menus selecting potions, oils, runestones before you go into every single fight.
-Its not funny - There is almost no comic relief in the game compared to the Interplayish games people on these boards are used to playing, the game tries to be so serious, Geralt is so monotone that even if he is joking or threatening he almost has to say "That was a Joke"
---But then again TW2 does have Phillipa Einhart....Yeahhh that is one messed up woman. I think its also the first time you see Geralt smirk.
What most people think of when they think of what part of TW2 can be brought into DA is the way the story unfolds. The Choice-Consequence implementation in TW2 is so well done the game can progress through different plot lines into completely different resolutions, and you will never see the content storyline you decided not to follow unless you replay the game.
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 08:26
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There's already a Witcher 2 discussion thread in Off-Topic.
We've played the Witcher 2. We've played Skyrim. I would wager that we've probably paid as much if not more attention to the minutiae of those games than many of the people on the forums - I don't mean this as a 'WE ARE MORE SERIOUS GAMERS THAN YOU', but we do have a professional obligation to see what's out there and see what we can learn from them. That's not to say we're going to be making clones of those games - far from it - but even if it's not an idea applicable to our own products, sometimes it's not the idea itself that's important, but rather the essence of it.
Anyways. Please feel free to discuss the Witcher 2 in our off-topic forum!
We've played the Witcher 2. We've played Skyrim. I would wager that we've probably paid as much if not more attention to the minutiae of those games than many of the people on the forums - I don't mean this as a 'WE ARE MORE SERIOUS GAMERS THAN YOU', but we do have a professional obligation to see what's out there and see what we can learn from them. That's not to say we're going to be making clones of those games - far from it - but even if it's not an idea applicable to our own products, sometimes it's not the idea itself that's important, but rather the essence of it.
Anyways. Please feel free to discuss the Witcher 2 in our off-topic forum!
