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[Seraphael]

sofly wrote...

This is the last irrelevant thread I ever read.

Then you must be new to the internet. To the contrary, I thought the OP raised some issues a great many of the customers share. Though the tone of which it was presented could certainly have been more diplomatic.

Agree with:

Technical problems. The Toolset is ravaged with problems in my experience. It seldom lets me install and if I manage to install the program, you can be sure it doesn't work. This is with an uptodate Vista.

Lack of balancing/lack of proper manual. Horrid game in this regard. Not only class vs. class, but also spell/talent vs. spell/talent. This is exacerbated by the lack of a proper manual or in game detailed explaination. As a result, some gamers with less optimal builds may find the game punishingly hard, while experienced players will know what to exploit to make combat trivial even at nightmare levels. Since the game is very long, these deficiencies are severe. However, the game is moddable and this can be negated somewhat with balance mod, tooltip mod and respec mod.

Lack of support. I'd like to be assured Bioware is indeed working on a patch to correct some of the problems and when to expect release of said patch. Is everyone working on ME2 or DLC for DA:O? Fix what is broken (serious bugs, severe balance issues) before asking for more money by releasing additional DLC!

Other than that, the game is great! 

Modifié par Seraphael, 07 décembre 2009 - 04:36 .

[rabbitchannel]

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I haven't experienced any bugs at all. Some skills ARE useless but that's why I research first. Respec mod is great, yes.

[DMTyrisis]

If you compare this to WoW, the game that is king of respecing and player options, give DA:O a chance. WoW sucked horribly at these items when it first came out, but look at it now. There are more options than a noob knows what to do with.

[nicodeemus327]

I found this game to be pretty bug free unlike some other games *couaiongh*. I dunno about gameplay imbalances. I never felt I couldn't play the game with any character I wanted.

[Aidunno]

Too bad.. I for one, after playing DAO am tempted to get the next game out which I wan't considering beforehand. I'll do some research first however to make sure it's the sort of thing I like.

[KilrB]

This is last Bioware game I ever buy.....

Does this mean you will never, ever, post on a BioWare forum again?

Terrific!

Good riddance to you.

Don't let the door hit you on your **** as you leave.

[rmp]

Kindke wrote...

Also, IF i want to play a 2-handed warrior, WHY IN HOLY ANDRASTE'S name do I have to spend the entire game with 1 ability point stuck in shield bash, THAT I WILL NEVER USE?!

There is hardly ANY explanation for what abilities and/or items do. The dwarven merchant belt that increases money gain. WHAT THE FLIP does it do exactly?

...where is the OFFICIAL PATCH that fixes all of these reported bugs that have cropped up all over the forums?

In response to some of the replies..

1. I agree, it's not a free point as I see it, it's a point that Bioware has decided to allocate for us instead of letting me do it myself. I can create everything about my character from when it was concieved at birth like gender and looks, but I can't decide what type of skill or talent he was planning to spec into at the beginning of the game?? All this "free" talk is nonsense, it's a point wasted for anyone not going down the shield line.

2. There are some abilities and items you just have to go to the Wiki or somewhere else on the internet to find out. Better info in the game would be nice.

3. It's been a while since the last patch and there are several issues. When's the next patch?

[MerinTB]

Kindke wrote...

Having enjoyed the previous Bioware games, Baldurs gate, NWN etc etc this is the final straw.

The problem is this game is RIDDLED with bugs, technical problems, gameplay imbalance's, its just made the whole experience so frustrating.

Sorry you were frustrated.  I would venture that, despite listing off all those other Bioware games, these kinds of games just aren't for you.

Reading the game manual sure helps in making character decisions.  I personally wonder what goes through people's heads when they restart a game constantly to make new characters because they "screwed up."  My brother does this all the time and then complains about being sick of the beginning of games so he can't replay them.  Same for the people who played all 6 origins before finishing the game - you chose to limit your replayability...

er, back on topic.

Complaining about patches when a game is just about a month released is really in poor taste.

Most of your complaints really tell me you want to be playing a different kind of game.  Maybe Obilivion or The Witcher would be more your speed?  Dungeons & Dragons Heroes?  I dunno - when you say you played Baldur's Gate, did you play the CONSOLE Baldur's Gate (cause that's crap.)

Another thing some people probably don't take into consideration: I bet that a good many of the people who say they played all of Bioware's games played them years after they were released, so they had patched versions they bought as opposed to those of us who played them when they were initially released.  Most computer games go through several patches, and the patching process usually lasts about a year.

[Frichie]

I dont see the whole gripe about one skill point, my rogue has pinning shot and i havent picked up a bow in anger!. Seriously some talents are pretty crap, but usually lead to a much better 2nd or 3rd teir talent.



I have found im level 15 and dont even bother micromanaging my team i just let them fight and they kick a**, wish you could change difficulty midgame.

[MerinTB]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

MerinTB wrote...

Another thing some people probably don't take into consideration: I bet that a good many of the people who say they played all of Bioware's games played them years after they were released, so they had patched versions they bought as opposed to those of us who played them when they were initially released.  Most computer games go through several patches, and the patching process usually lasts about a year.

Do you mean to say that those games had bugs in them?  They weren't always perfect?

I don't believe it.

I know, I know, it is hard to accept that if you buy a game that is ten years old that it might have been fixed up real good by now.
Or that a game released across 3 platforms, one of those platforms being the PC which means the ridiculously large combinations of hardware and software that the game has to be compatible with, might have some problems no matter how much they polished it pre-release.

[Snarf95]

It's not often that i buy the wrong games, but yeah i don't know it's most likely because i've been ill lately. This game is a scandal! want money refound;

[Sam -stone- serious]

SheffSteel wrote...

"Animate dead, the skeleton disappears when you change zones"
... as opposed to, say, every Infinity Engine game where your undead horde followed you from map to map?

Baldurs Gate was limiting yes but the Aurora Engine and NWN2 engine did not have this problem. Why did we move 10 years behind in such design is beyond me.

The guy actually has a point but he is covered in frustration which make his post seem absolute. He coulp post it in a more toned down version but i sure as hell can see where he is coming from.

[Eurypterid]

Bugs: yep, there are some bugs. I've had my main character's weapons disappear and have to reload from a previous save to get them back. I've had an odd graphical glitch occur that wouldn't clear up on a save and reload (had to go back to an earlier save). This game has crashed on me more than any other game I've played in the last few years. To whoever said "RTFM": the manual is woefully lacking in detail on the mechanics of the spells, talents, and skills.



Despite all of this, I'm still having a blast playing this game and personally feel it's the best one I've played in a long time. But there is definitely cause for complaint in some areas.

[oblivionenss]

Frichie wrote...

I have found im level 15 and dont even bother micromanaging my team i just let them fight and they kick a**, wish you could change difficulty midgame.

You can.

[Jax Sparrow]

WoW, I am having a blast with the game and yes the Respec mod is sooo useful but then Bioware incorporated the ability to mod the game yes? So I think they did an awesome job making an awesome game. Sure, there are bugs but if the OP is sooo distraught over them then how about he fixes them himself? *shrugs* I might even use such a mod; but I am Programming retarded and having tons of fun still.

[Malastare-]

Eurypterid wrote...

This game has crashed on me more than any other game I've played in the last few years.

I've seen this said a number of times.  I have to wonder: how many of the people who report these numerous crashes have been running games this graphically/processor intense on a regular basis.  I've talked to a dozen people already who were reporting the game was causing their box to crash and reboot.  Upon talking to them, the problems sounded more like hardware crashes due to excessive heat instead of problems with DA:O.

Maybe I'm just lucky.  Maybe its becaue I've been playing on the 360. I've one minor bug (or perhaps wrongly-documented quasi-exploit) and just one crash (after playing for 8 straight hours).

[Aesir Rising]

I agree on most of the OP's points (except perhaps the criticism on Survival skill).



The criticisms weren't stated so harshly that the Bioware fan(boi) base needed to come out of The Fade in defense of their most beloved development company.



The top post isn't a complete list of bugs and design flaws either, and I could readily add to the list - except that I don't feel like reading a bunch of fanboi rationalizations and half-assed justifications.

[Foxd1e]

kthxbye don't let the door hit you on the way out!

[Eshme]

Woow so Shield Bash IS a bug? thanks i neverr would have found out lol

[MerinTB]

Aesir Rising wrote...

I agree on most of the OP's points (except perhaps the criticism on Survival skill).

The criticisms weren't stated so harshly that the Bioware fan(boi) base needed to come out of The Fade in defense of their most beloved development company.

The top post isn't a complete list of bugs and design flaws either, and I could readily add to the list - except that I don't feel like reading a bunch of fanboi rationalizations and half-assed justifications.

Feed.
The.

Oh, sorry, didn't mean to "fanboi" you.

Ad hominem.  Learn what it is and why it makes your arguments irrelevant.

The OP's post is full of personal attacks and name-calling at Bioware.  If the OP seriously has issues they want to see resolved, coming on the forums with such an aggressive, insulting rant is probably the LEAST EFFECTIVE WAY he could have gone.

So the apparent reason to post such a thread is to attract retaliation and start a flame war - and there are always people willing to oblige.

Again - Aesir Rising - if you have legitimate technical game issues there are two things you should do:
1 - contact technical support via the support options (email and such) from the appropriate links
2 - post a non-inflammatory, non-insulting query on the forums set aside for technical questions and support, as opposed to the General Discussion forum.

OP didn't do this.  OP has an axe to grind OR likes to rile people up.  The insults and demeaning language serves no productive purpose.

[Basil_Abdef]

This game undeniably has some pretty terrible balance issues, plot gaffes, bugs, etc. Plugging one's ears and going "la la la" doesn't make them go away.



At the same time, most every game has its fair share of badness. After all, Dragon Age is just a tiny bit above mediocre as far as games go. There's nothing wrong with that; it's selling well enough anyway, and that is the only thing that matters in the end.

[St_Pboar]

Basil_Abdef wrote...

This game undeniably has some pretty terrible balance issues, plot gaffes, bugs, etc. Plugging one's ears and going "la la la" doesn't make them go away.

At the same time, most every game has its fair share of badness. After all, Dragon Age is just a tiny bit above mediocre as far as games go. There's nothing wrong with that; it's selling well enough anyway, and that is the only thing that matters in the end.

class Balance is not an issue in a Single player game. You can play every class you need to, and sure some classes excell where others fall flat, but why does it matter when there is no competition?

[Foxd1e]

Basil_Abdef wrote...

This game undeniably has some pretty terrible balance issues, plot gaffes, bugs, etc. Plugging one's ears and going "la la la" doesn't make them go away.

At the same time, most every game has its fair share of badness. After all, Dragon Age is just a tiny bit above mediocre as far as games go. There's nothing wrong with that; it's selling well enough anyway, and that is the only thing that matters in the end.

Say that again in a couple months when it has RPG and PC game of the year plastered all over it's box.

[Basil_Abdef]

Of course it matters. Why even have four party slots when all one needs is a mage and some piece of meat as a decoy? Cone of cold > this game.



This game is entirely doable with a two character party, and the only reason the second character is needed is to free the mage from grab attacks.