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[Dennis Carpenter]

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

Lets call all criticism QQ, yeah thats a fine idea. Lets all hail Bioware for all its work, doesnt matter if its good or bad. Lets all worship our new God because fanbois feel as such.

No. Criticism is there to make the game better next time or improve it via mods. If we didnt have criticism (be it lenient, harsh, moderate, normal, whatever) then we would not be calling these "discussions" now would we and all topic would not be called simply "topics" but worship places.

There is a difference between criticism and (female dog)ing........one is constructive the other is not.........hopefully you can someday realize the difference.

Modifié par Dennis Carpenter, 07 décembre 2009 - 07:36 .

[Darpaek]

Actually, technically... it's still an ad hom even if its true. The speaker has to give conclusions, warrants, and evidence to shift from the realm of ad hom to the realm of invalidating ones ethos.

[Foxd1e]

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

Lets call all criticism QQ, yeah thats a fine idea. Lets all hail Bioware for all its work, doesnt matter if its good or bad. Lets all worship our new God because fanbois feel as such.

No. Criticism is there to make the game better next time or improve it via mods. If we didnt have criticism (be it lenient, harsh, moderate, normal, whatever) then we would not be calling these "discussions" now would we and all topic would not be called simply "topics" but worship places.

Hey sam where is your registered copy of the game? Do you even have it or are you talking out of your ***? I think you and the OP are just backing each other up. If theres any score I disregard everywhere it's user score because most of it's garbarge because people don't know how to rate. If Dragon Age was at 95 and it went to 86 user score its because there was a bunch of idiots that thought it was cool to rate it a 1.

[Sam -stone- serious]

There is a difference between criticism and (female dog)ing........one is constructive the other is not.........hopefully you can someday realize the difference.

And as i previously said he did not post his criticism as it should. That does not mean that we should just dismiss it because the OP clearly likes the game or wants to like it and these nigles prevent him from doing so. Mind you his way of making criticism is as anoying as the fanbois laping up everything they are being fed and coming around with stupid remarks just to prove how much of a fan(boi) they are.

I believe that all criticism is good. The criticism that is there to just kill the game outright and make all things look bad in it shows from a mile off. This is a "good" criticism even if a little mental.

[Sam -stone- serious]

Hey sam where is your registered copy of the game? Do you even have it or are you talking out of your ***? I think you and the OP are just backing each other up. If theres any score I disregard everywhere it's user score because most of it's garbarge because people don't know how to rate. If Dragon Age was at 95 and it went to 86 user score its because there was a bunch of idiots that thought it was cool to rate it a 1.

I have the game on my PS3, whats your problem? 

[Ickabod27]

Can I have your stuff?

[VanDraegon]

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

Lets call all criticism QQ, yeah thats a fine idea. Lets all hail Bioware for all its work, doesnt matter if its good or bad. Lets all worship our new God because fanbois feel as such.

No. Criticism is there to make the game better next time or improve it via mods. If we didnt have criticism (be it lenient, harsh, moderate, normal, whatever) then we would not be calling these "discussions" now would we and all topic would not be called simply "topics" but worship places.

Critism is fine and can lead to good things for a game and good discussion. The OP wasnt interested in constructive critism, he just wanted to whine and cry.  Surprising that you couldnt see the difference....

[VanDraegon]

Trajan60 wrote...

lol, Gold!

Modifié par VanDraegon, 07 décembre 2009 - 08:03 .

[robertthebard]

class balance issues...For a minute, I thought I was on the wrong forum, and was fixing to moderate. In an MMO, class balance is very important. However, in a single player game, if you think a particular class breaks the game, play w/out it. It's not like I'm going to swoop down on you with my game breaking class and PK you until I get bored. Or is it???



Concerning bugs, I have had a video glitch from time to time where my ranged weapons have mysteriously become my melee weapons, according to the skills in my quick slots, although, I must admit it looks pretty funny when you behead somebody with a quiver of arrows. OMG, my game is broken. BioWare, you have to send me regular reminders that after 10 hours straight of gameplay, my RAM might get a bit full. I knew that 2 gig wasn't enough for a 24 hour straight run, damn it man. Other than that, I had my keyboard freak out earlier, guess I better come up with a way to blame BioWare for that too, eh?



Regarding the skill taken, when you roll a Dalish elf, you're equipped with a bow when you go rogue, so pinning shot makes sense, in a "Gee, I'm using a bow with a bow skill" kinda way. In the Noble story, you start out sword and board, imagine the audacity of having a skill that you can actually use. While I have questioned not being able to choose all my own skills, it's not game breaking. You can take spells/talents every time you level up. Now, you might have a better case if you couldn't. Since this is not the case, it is just pointless whining.

[MerinTB]

Darpaek wrote...

Actually, technically... it's still an ad hom even if its true. The speaker has to give conclusions, warrants, and evidence to shift from the realm of ad hom to the realm of invalidating ones ethos.

Enchantment.

[Darpaek]

Yeah. I deserved that. May post was a little pointy-headed.

[bzombo]

K K Slider wrote...

Sorry OP, but NW2 takes the award for BioWare game containing the most game breaking bugs.

yes, it does, excluding the fact that bioware did nothing with nwn2.

[Darpaek]

They hosted the forum. It confuses mouth-breathers.

[Jassper]

I have more issues with things not working on this site than I do the game. 

[Sam -stone- serious]

Critism is fine and can lead to good things for a game and good discussion. The OP wasnt interested in constructive critism, he just wanted to whine and cry.  Surprising that you couldnt see the difference....

I dont know if its your (in)ability to read or whatever but i will say this for the third (3) time that i do not agree with the way the OP wrote his post. Surprising that you conviniently escaped that part.

[Haexpane]

Kindke wrote...
 

2) Bioware, you dirty money grabbers, 

Why are these rants not locked?

[Ghandorian]

wow 20 replays and not happy with talents? It looks pretty obvious to anyone that pleasing this person was mission impossible. That's what happens when people come into a game full of preconceived notions of what they imagine they would put there. You have to approach a game for what it says it will do. Spiritual successor to BG never implied nwn3

[Darpaek]

Because game companies that moderate criticism on their message boards gain bad rep real quick.



I'm sure they have a dude with a pocket protector and a flowchart in their Marketing department.

[VanDraegon]

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

Critism is fine and can lead to good things for a game and good discussion. The OP wasnt interested in constructive critism, he just wanted to whine and cry.  Surprising that you couldnt see the difference....

I dont know if its your (in)ability to read or whatever but i will say this for the third (3) time that i do not agree with the way the OP wrote his post. Surprising that you conviniently escaped that part.

I didnt "escape" that part. I read your reply to my post and then responded. I did not read through all the other posts after that to see specifically what you pontificated on about in defense of his QQ post. Next time i will make sure to do that for ya.. 

Modifié par VanDraegon, 07 décembre 2009 - 08:41 .

[TileToad]

KilrB wrote...

This is last Bioware game I ever buy.....

Does this mean you will never, ever, post on a BioWare forum again?

Terrific!

Good riddance to you.

Don't let the door hit you on your **** as you leave.

Heh, I never knew forums had a door.. or residents for that matter.

I always thought forums were there for everyone to discuss and voice opinions. Not some closed off cult where only those of the same opinions are welcome. I guess I'm simply too liberal to fit into forum elitism and cults as I always find it interesting to read different opinions. No matter how strongly I disagree or not.

And, to be honest, I believe that whether you strongly disagree with the TC or not, he definitely has some valid points too.

[Darpaek]

Go play on Paradox Interactive's forums. No one has had anything positive to say there for months.

[Astorax]

Haexpane wrote...

Kindke wrote...
 

2) Bioware, you dirty money grabbers, 

Why are these rants not locked?

Because there's nothing wrong with ranting...to a point.

If we become totally draconic and just lock everything that is ranty like this, it's seen as overly restrictive, and borderline censorship.

There's nothing wrong with voicing your opinion.  There is a line that can cross into trolling, and/or spamming...and we watch that.  Saying Bioware is a dirty money grabber...while the adjective isn't quite appropriate (everyone bathes on a fairly regular basis from what I've seen) they technically ARE money grabbers... It's a business, like any other, and the goal is to make money.   Not liking how they do it is a perfectly valid reason for voicing said opinion, even as saying Dragon Age is the best RPG evar is a valid opinion (whether you agree with it or not).

Having said that, attempting to keep it civil is nice, and we will crack down when anyone starts pointing fingers and/or slinging mud at fellow community members inappropriately.

[Sam -stone- serious]

VanDraegon wrote...

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

Critism is fine and can lead to good things for a game and good discussion. The OP wasnt interested in constructive critism, he just wanted to whine and cry.  Surprising that you couldnt see the difference....

I dont know if its your (in)ability to read or whatever but i will say this for the third (3) time that i do not agree with the way the OP wrote his post. Surprising that you conviniently escaped that part.

I didnt "escape" that part. I read your reply to my post and then responded. I did not read through all the other posts after that to see specifically what you pontificated on about in defense of his QQ post. Next time i will make sure to do that for ya.. 

Good, some honesty at least. And i do not pontificate about anyone. All i am saying is that all opinion and criticism is welcome even if i do not agree with it or the way its written. You my friend think i am taking sides here but i dont. I like reading all posts that are "legit" (as in not trolling) wether they are angry, praising or whatever.

Sorry if for some this is as good as "trechery" or "QQ" or soem other stupid reason to dismiss it and put a label on it.

[Haexpane]

Well "dirty money grabbers" has a historical usage that is ugly... which is why it stood out to me.



It just seems like if someone is going to preface their rant w/ insults.. it makes the rest of their rant worthless since their position is one of hateful, personal attacks.

[Inhuman one]

I do think that Bioware needs to work on all aspects of any of their games besides the story to make it stand out more and be able to compete with other games.



Mass Effect is certainly going in a good direction, but I do feel that with Dragon Age they should not have returned to a semi turn based system. Mass Effect is real time and does allow you to give orders to teammembers and pause the game. That works fine and could work great with swords and sorcery as well.



I am personly just getting tired of the damage points and armor points stuff in RPG's. It turns combat into a math quiz which it should not be, and it also gives you the idea that it is the equipment that wins the battle and not the person using it.



the combat moves could be a bit more spectacular as well. Special moves should also have a finishing animation if you use it to kill someone for example.



For almost a week now I am playing Assasin's Creed II. Now that game has a good combat system, and its quite realistic with the combat as well. The story is quite weak since its too far fetched to be believable, but most other aspects of the game are handled perfectly.



Of course I keep looking forward to any Bioware release, but they cant keep trying to sell games on story alone.



A good story is what makes you remember a game, but good gameplay makes you want to play it again right after you finish it.



Dragon Age can take a long time to finish yes, but crawling for 10 hours through the deep roads is hardly fun. Such overly long dungeons where you just fight anything you encounter are hardly interesting anymore, unless you of course have one kick ass combat system, which Dragon Age does not have.



I wouldnt call the Dragon Age combat system bad, but not good either. I would dare to call it outdated. Its kind of a hack and slash game.. with tactics if you look closely at the combat.