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[Emzamination]

tractrpl wrote...

When I last went to Hong Kong at looked out at the city from the top of Victoria Peak, what I saw reminded me of the citadel as viewed by Kaiden, Shepard, and Ashley during the "tinfoil miniskirt" conversation. The Asians hold the future. We Americans look down on people with an education, and mock them for being smart. The Asians admire Engineers and Scientists, hold them with awe and respect. This attitude will eventually cause them to surpass us, if they haven't surpassed us already. If ME was realistic, most of the human characters in the series would be asian.

Ooooo how I would love to retort this but I'll digress.

[tractrpl]

Emzamination wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

When I last went to Hong Kong at looked out at the city from the top of Victoria Peak, what I saw reminded me of the citadel as viewed by Kaiden, Shepard, and Ashley during the "tinfoil miniskirt" conversation. The Asians hold the future. We Americans look down on people with an education, and mock them for being smart. The Asians admire Engineers and Scientists, hold them with awe and respect. This attitude will eventually cause them to surpass us, if they haven't surpassed us already. If ME was realistic, most of the human characters in the series would be asian.

Ooooo how I would love to retort this but I'll digress.

Please do. I will not be offended if you disagree, unless you say something racist or something about asians or whoever.

[Irishfafnir]

Xmus88 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

In video game world, America has taken over the word and all their accents.

Lol this.

In all seriousness, i think we(non-british europeans, etc) have made the english speaking people a bit too comfortable by learning their language, so now they cannot imagine a world where the dominant language is not english.

Fun fact: There are currently more people in the world that speaks chinese, spanish and indian than there are people speaking english

I am grateful, however, that the main language in the Mass Effect universe is not chinese. But I do think that north americans could be a bit more aware of other languages in the world when imagining our grand future.  

That's definitly not correct, English is the most widely spoken language in the world and the most commonly used language for  international business transactions. Secondly Indians speak a plithera of languages including Punjabi, Hindi, English, Bengali etc....  there is no "indian language" in the same sense that there is no Chinese Language, the two dominant languages in eastern china are Cantonese and Mandarian, however Western China has many different ethnic groups and the languages can vary. In terms of most  native speakers then the list goes something like

1- Mandarian Chinese
2- English/Spainish- The number of native speakers is extremely close
3- Various Indian languages- Bengali, Hindi

So no it makes perfect sense that most people would speak english, as it is the quasi international language of the world. 



Also Canada has disappeared by our time frame, replaced by the North American States. He would identify himself as an American( However note that American would probably refer to anyone from the North American Continent rather then the former United States)

Modifié par Irishfafnir, 26 avril 2012 - 10:13 .

[Xmus88]

Irishfafnir wrote...

That's definitly not correct, English is the most widely spoken language in the world and the most commonly used language for  international business transactions. Secondly Indians speak a plithera of languages including Punjabi, Hindi, English, Bengali etc....  there is no "indian language" in the same sense that there is no Chinese Language, the two dominant languages in eastern china are Cantonese and Mandarian, however Western China has many different ethnic groups and the languages can vary. In terms of most  native speakers then the list goes something like

1- Mandarian Chinese
2- English/Spainish- The number of native speakers is extremely close
3- Various Indian languages- Bengali, Hindi

So no it makes perfect sense that most people would speak english, as it is the quasi international language of the world. 



Also Canada has disappeared by our time frame, replaced by the North American States. He would identify himself as an American( However note that American would probably refer to anyone from the North American Continent rather then the former United States)

There are more than twice as many native mandarin chinese speakers, than there are native english speakers. Also i'm aware that english is considered a global language but for most people it is not used in daily life, and they are just able to use it to communicate if need be. 
To specify, there might be 1.5 billion people who consider themselves able to communicate in english, but that doesnt make it the most widely spoken, as in the majority of all words spoken are english.

Really i'm not saying that half of the people you incounter should have thick accents, just that it is annoying that science fiction writers always treat all other languages (even alien ones) as non exsitant. I mean why would quarians not turn off their translators or something when they want to say something to eachother that they dont want shepard to hear?

[Foxhound2121]

tractrpl wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

When I last went to Hong Kong at looked out at the city from the top of Victoria Peak, what I saw reminded me of the citadel as viewed by Kaiden, Shepard, and Ashley during the "tinfoil miniskirt" conversation. The Asians hold the future. We Americans look down on people with an education, and mock them for being smart. The Asians admire Engineers and Scientists, hold them with awe and respect. This attitude will eventually cause them to surpass us, if they haven't surpassed us already. If ME was realistic, most of the human characters in the series would be asian.

Ooooo how I would love to retort this but I'll digress.

Please do. I will not be offended if you disagree, unless you say something racist or something about asians or whoever.

Well, the fact that countries in Africa spend more on education than the Chinese government gives you a feel for their idea of education.

[Irishfafnir]

Yes English is the most widely spoken language in the world,Mandarin Chinese is not spoken outside of mainland china except for in immigrant communities. The fact that English is a secondary language is irrelevant. If you want to say that English is not the largest native speaking language in the world then that is quite true, however not pertinent to the discussion of why does everyone speak English in space!

The reason all humans would speak English is because it is the quasi international language. In space multiple human nationalities would be forced to communicate and the chosen language would more then likely be English as it is largely today. Go to any random country in the world and speak English more likely then not someone will understand you, the same can not be said for any other language.


Why would Bioware waste time putting in alien talk we couldn't understand it wouldn't add anything to the story, since we couldn't understand it. If you ever played KOTOR or KOTOR 2 they did have aliens who did not speak english and it was quite annoying to listen to them talk.

[tractrpl]

Foxhound2121 wrote...

Well, the fact that countries in Africa spend more on education than the Chinese government gives you a feel for their idea of education.

That's totally incorrect.  Their education system was destroyed during the cultural revolution, but they do spend quite a lot trying to rebuild it.

Also, Hong Kong is totally different than mainland China. Hong Kong University has the #21 rated university in the world, only 10 or so American universities outrank it.

Also you should see the diproportionate amount of American college students that are Asian. Asians almost outnumber westerners in out own colleges, yet they make up a tiny smidgen of both our population and our immigrants. Let's face it. Americans just don't care about education or intelligence.

Modifié par tractrpl, 26 avril 2012 - 11:22 .

[sevach]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I thought Ash was Brazilian?

She was trained in Brazil, so was Shepard actually, but that doesn't make her Brazilian, could be, but Williams isn't a name that says Brazil to me.

Shepard can be pretty much anything you want, just work the face generator.

[Irishfafnir]

tractrpl wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...

Well, the fact that countries in Africa spend more on education than the Chinese government gives you a feel for their idea of education.

That's totally incorrect.  Their education system was destroyed during the cultural revolution, but they do spend quite a lot trying to rebuild it.

Also, Hong Kong is totally different than mainland China. Hong Kong University has the #21 rated university in the world, only 10 or so American universities outrank it.

Also you should see the diproportionate amount of American college students that are Asian. Asians almost outnumber westerners in out own colleges, yet they make up a tiny smidgen of both our population and our immigrants. Let's face it. Americans just don't care about education or intelligence.

Extreme overgeneralitzation, many of the asians in higher education are in fact American citizens. Americans have the best higher education system in the world, and while our public schools have recieved alot of negative attention we are still ranked 12th in the world at the secondary education level, which is bad considering that we spend more per student then any other country in the world but Switzerland, but still quite good in the larger sense. Secondly when viewed on a state by state level Americans remain quite competitive, because education is still largely funded and administrated by the states there is a large range of divserity among the states in terms of performance. Compare for instance Massachusetts and South Carolina

[Legend 0f Dawn]

squareofme wrote...

i'm sure it's easy enough to guess where Emily Wong's ancestors lived.

Spain?

[chengthao]

tractrpl wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...

Well, the fact that countries in Africa spend more on education than the Chinese government gives you a feel for their idea of education.

That's totally incorrect.  Their education system was destroyed during the cultural revolution, but they do spend quite a lot trying to rebuild it.

Also, Hong Kong is totally different than mainland China. Hong Kong University has the #21 rated university in the world, only 10 or so American universities outrank it.

Also you should see the diproportionate amount of American college students that are Asian. Asians almost outnumber westerners in out own colleges, yet they make up a tiny smidgen of both our population and our immigrants. Let's face it. Americans just don't care about education or intelligence.

it depends on where you live

where i grew up . . . . . education wasn't frowned upon, in fact it was praised

i grew up in a large hispanic-community and education was key to getting a good job and many kids tried hard in school to get out of poverty

[tractrpl]

Irishfafnir wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...

Well, the fact that countries in Africa spend more on education than the Chinese government gives you a feel for their idea of education.

That's totally incorrect.  Their education system was destroyed during the cultural revolution, but they do spend quite a lot trying to rebuild it.

Also, Hong Kong is totally different than mainland China. Hong Kong University has the #21 rated university in the world, only 10 or so American universities outrank it.

Also you should see the diproportionate amount of American college students that are Asian. Asians almost outnumber westerners in out own colleges, yet they make up a tiny smidgen of both our population and our immigrants. Let's face it. Americans just don't care about education or intelligence.

Extreme overgeneralitzation, many of the asians in higher education are in fact American citizens. Americans have the best higher education system in the world, and while our public schools have recieved alot of negative attention we are still ranked 12th in the world at the secondary education level, which is bad considering that we spend more per student then any other country in the world but Switzerland, but still quite good in the larger sense. Secondly when viewed on a state by state level Americans remain quite competitive, because education is still largely funded and administrated by the states there is a large range of divserity among the states in terms of performance. Compare for instance Massachusetts and South Carolina

I did not discount those Asian Americans. However, it should be noted that Asian Americans are much more likely to attend college than any other ethnicity. This, coupled with the foreign students that flood our schools, means we white Americans are sending less people to our own colleges and others are benefiting more. Eventually, other countries will have a surplus of harvard or similarly trained professors, these will form the backbone of elite forein universities.

I was not overgeneralizing regarding Hong Kong University as #21 ranked in the world. All of you ignored that. Strange. Granted, Hong Kong is mostly separate from the Chinese government, and Hong Kong U is totally unaffiliatted with the Chinese government, and is actually more closely associated with the British Crown.  However, it is still a University located within the Chinese Sphere. 

Modifié par tractrpl, 26 avril 2012 - 11:38 .

[Saremei]

Irishfafnir wrote...

Yes English is the most widely spoken language in the world,Mandarin Chinese is not spoken outside of mainland china except for in immigrant communities. The fact that English is a secondary language is irrelevant. If you want to say that English is not the largest native speaking language in the world then that is quite true, however not pertinent to the discussion of why does everyone speak English in space!

The reason all humans would speak English is because it is the quasi international language. In space multiple human nationalities would be forced to communicate and the chosen language would more then likely be English as it is largely today. Go to any random country in the world and speak English more likely then not someone will understand you, the same can not be said for any other language.


Why would Bioware waste time putting in alien talk we couldn't understand it wouldn't add anything to the story, since we couldn't understand it. If you ever played KOTOR or KOTOR 2 they did have aliens who did not speak english and it was quite annoying to listen to them talk.

To add to this I would like to say that not only is English the dominant language spoken worldwide by several billion currently, but the US and Canada have more native English speakers than the rest of the countries containing Native English speaking people combined as last I read.  That solidly accounts for why the NA English outnumbers the other accents.  Well that and the fact that the ME universe has absolutely everyone using auto-translators which ensures everyone speaks in a language familiar to the listener.

[tractrpl]

By the way I AM generalizing about Americans when I say "we don't value education". I just don't think it's an overgeneralization. To be an overgeneralization, then the majority would not fit the characterization. When applied to people from New Hampshire, Vermont, Oregen, this is not true. But when applied to Oklahoma (where I'm from), Mississippi, Georgia, Texas, when I say people basically frown on people with an education, this is true. If it wasn't true, then ideas such as nerd and geek wouldn't exist in our culture.

Modifié par tractrpl, 26 avril 2012 - 11:46 .

[Foxhound2121]

tractrpl wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...

Well, the fact that countries in Africa spend more on education than the Chinese government gives you a feel for their idea of education.

That's totally incorrect.  Their education system was destroyed during the cultural revolution, but they do spend quite a lot trying to rebuild it.

Also, Hong Kong is totally different than mainland China. Hong Kong University has the #21 rated university in the world, only 10 or so American universities outrank it.

Also you should see the diproportionate amount of American college students that are Asian. Asians almost outnumber westerners in out own colleges, yet they make up a tiny smidgen of both our population and our immigrants. Let's face it. Americans just don't care about education or intelligence.

That's Hong Kong.

Seems like a nice place in the city sometimes, but is not a nice place outside a couple cities. That is also not where the majority of their population lives. Those students come to United States for good reason too. Public education, last time I checked, is virtually nonexistant. You have to pay for it. China spends an extremely low amount in education for the size of their labor class which is the majority of the country. They will send their labor class to Beijing and Hong Kong to finish some construction and then swiftly kick them out because they don't want ghettos to build. Majority of China is very uneducated.

http://visualeconomi...nd-their-money/ That is the amount they spend in their total budget. Take that into account that they have plenty of money to spend than most of those countries, and the majority of China is poor, uneducated population with severe problems.

[Irishfafnir]

tractrpl wrote...

Irishfafnir wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...

Well, the fact that countries in Africa spend more on education than the Chinese government gives you a feel for their idea of education.

That's totally incorrect.  Their education system was destroyed during the cultural revolution, but they do spend quite a lot trying to rebuild it.

Also, Hong Kong is totally different than mainland China. Hong Kong University has the #21 rated university in the world, only 10 or so American universities outrank it.

Also you should see the diproportionate amount of American college students that are Asian. Asians almost outnumber westerners in out own colleges, yet they make up a tiny smidgen of both our population and our immigrants. Let's face it. Americans just don't care about education or intelligence.

Extreme overgeneralitzation, many of the asians in higher education are in fact American citizens. Americans have the best higher education system in the world, and while our public schools have recieved alot of negative attention we are still ranked 12th in the world at the secondary education level, which is bad considering that we spend more per student then any other country in the world but Switzerland, but still quite good in the larger sense. Secondly when viewed on a state by state level Americans remain quite competitive, because education is still largely funded and administrated by the states there is a large range of divserity among the states in terms of performance. Compare for instance Massachusetts and South Carolina

I did not discount those Asian Americans. However, it should be noted that Asian Americans are much more likely to attend college than any other ethnicity. This, coupled with the foreign students that flood our schools, means we white Americans are sending less people to our own colleges and others are benefiting more. Eventually, other countries will have a surplus of harvard or similarly trained professors, these will form the backbone of elite forein universities.

I was not overgeneralizing regarding Hong Kong University as #21 ranked in the world. All of you ignored that. Strange. Granted, Hong Kong is mostly separate from the Chinese government, and Hong Kong U is totally unaffiliatted with the Chinese government, and is actually more closely associated with the British Crown.  However, it is still a University located within the Chinese Sphere. 

Unlikely many developing countries face a problem where there citizens go overseas for education and then apply for citizenship. It is called brain drain and it is a major problem in India and Eastern Europe. Ever wonder why so many doctors have Indian accents?


Its great that Hong kong is number 21( my source says 22 but w/e) but that doesn't really matter, 15/22 colleges of the best colleges in the world are in the United States. 5 are in the UK, 1 is in Canada and 1 is in switzerland. The english Speaking world has a monopoly on good education. Secondly you could argue that Hong Kong University is really a English University in the sense that it was founded and reached preeminance during British rule, it doesn't say much for the Chinese educational system.


More asian americans do go to college( %wise) then White americans, however due to the overwhelming number of Whites they still dominate the post college field. Secondly if you want to break white Americans down further to say Jewish Americans then they excedd asian americans by far, while having a comparative number of the population.

Secondly about half of asian americans live in the west with most being in California. Californians enjoy some of the cheapest education in the United States. So there could very well be extinuating circumstances to explain why more asians go to college.

Modifié par Irishfafnir, 26 avril 2012 - 11:58 .

[tractrpl]

Foxhound2121 wrote...
That's Hong Kong.

Seems like a nice place in the city sometimes, but is not a nice place outside a couple cities. That is also not where the majority of their population lives. Those students come to United States for good reason too. Public education, last time I checked, is virtually nonexistant. You have to pay for it. China spends an extremely low amount in education for the size of their labor class which is the majority of the country. They will send their labor class to Beijing and Hong Kong to finish some construction and then swiftly kick them out because they don't want ghettos to build. Majority of China is very uneducated.

http://visualeconomi...nd-their-money/ That is the amount they spend in their total budget. Take that into account that they have plenty of money to spend than most of those countries, and the majority of China is poor, uneducated population with severe problems.

They don't send labor classes to Hong Kong, first of all. Hong Kong is literally difficult for most Chinese to visit. A Chinese person visiting Hong Kong would have to go to the local police station, get a special Hong Kong pass, then apply for a HK visa. In all it takes several months and costs hundreds of US dollars. If they don't have an employer or university willing to sponsor them, then they can only stay for 90 days, and they usually can only visit HK unless they have a huge bank account or have family living in HK. For Americans? Basically you just need your US passport and you can stay there for 90 days. Wanna stay longer? Just take a ferry to Macau before your 90 days expires, then when you head back you get stamped for another 90 days.

BTW, the #21 ranking was a 2010 ranking, it seems they slid back a little.

Modifié par tractrpl, 27 avril 2012 - 12:01 .

[tractrpl]

 Also, HKU is an English University since everything is taught in English, many professors are from the US or the UK.

My point isn't about what language people would be speaking in the future, it's about where the world's elite will come from, or at least what their cultural background is.  I highly doubt that Americans can maintain their edge given the attitudes many Americans I've encountered feel about people who are educated. They look down on them, say their "book smart, but don't have street smarts". (Which means what, I won't be able to score some weed if I want? How will that help me?) Granted there are 1.4 crapload billion Chinese, so the ones I encounter of more likely to be the educated elites. Their leagues ahead of the rednecks I come from simply because I don't come from that equivalent elite background.

Modifié par tractrpl, 27 avril 2012 - 12:04 .

[Foxhound2121]

tractrpl wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...
That's Hong Kong.

Seems like a nice place in the city sometimes, but is not a nice place outside a couple cities. That is also not where the majority of their population lives. Those students come to United States for good reason too. Public education, last time I checked, is virtually nonexistant. You have to pay for it. China spends an extremely low amount in education for the size of their labor class which is the majority of the country. They will send their labor class to Beijing and Hong Kong to finish some construction and then swiftly kick them out because they don't want ghettos to build. Majority of China is very uneducated.

http://visualeconomi...nd-their-money/ That is the amount they spend in their total budget. Take that into account that they have plenty of money to spend than most of those countries, and the majority of China is poor, uneducated population with severe problems.

They don't send labor classes to Hong Kong, first of all. Hong Kong is literally difficult for most Chinese to visit. A Chinese person visiting Hong Kong would have to go to the local police station, get a special Hong Kong pass, then apply for a HK visa. In all it takes several months and costs hundreds of US dollars. If they don't have an employer or university willing to sponsor them, then they can only stay for 90 days, and they usually can only visit HK unless they have a huge bank account or have family living in HK. For Americans? Basically you just need your US passport and you can stay there for 90 days. Wanna stay longer? Just take a ferry to Macau before your 90 days expires, then when you head back you get stamped for another 90 days.

BTW, the #21 ranking was a 2010 ranking, it seems they slid back a little.

Precisely the point. They will make special consideration for the labor class to enter a developed city for construction purposes with the obligation that they leave afterwards.

Modifié par Foxhound2121, 27 avril 2012 - 12:06 .

[tractrpl]

Foxhound2121 wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...
That's Hong Kong.

Seems like a nice place in the city sometimes, but is not a nice place outside a couple cities. That is also not where the majority of their population lives. Those students come to United States for good reason too. Public education, last time I checked, is virtually nonexistant. You have to pay for it. China spends an extremely low amount in education for the size of their labor class which is the majority of the country. They will send their labor class to Beijing and Hong Kong to finish some construction and then swiftly kick them out because they don't want ghettos to build. Majority of China is very uneducated.

http://visualeconomi...nd-their-money/ That is the amount they spend in their total budget. Take that into account that they have plenty of money to spend than most of those countries, and the majority of China is poor, uneducated population with severe problems.

They don't send labor classes to Hong Kong, first of all. Hong Kong is literally difficult for most Chinese to visit. A Chinese person visiting Hong Kong would have to go to the local police station, get a special Hong Kong pass, then apply for a HK visa. In all it takes several months and costs hundreds of US dollars. If they don't have an employer or university willing to sponsor them, then they can only stay for 90 days, and they usually can only visit HK unless they have a huge bank account or have family living in HK. For Americans? Basically you just need your US passport and you can stay there for 90 days. Wanna stay longer? Just take a ferry to Macau before your 90 days expires, then when you head back you get stamped for another 90 days.

BTW, the #21 ranking was a 2010 ranking, it seems they slid back a little.

Precisely the point. They will make special consideration for the labor class to enter a developed city for construction purposes with the obligation that they leave afterwards.

They don't even do that. The only Chinese from the mainland coming to HK are the rich and powerful, basically (or the very smart). The labor classes come from within their own citizenry.

Modifié par tractrpl, 27 avril 2012 - 12:09 .

[Irishfafnir]

tractrpl wrote...

 Also, HKU is an English University since everything is taught in English, many professors are from the US or the UK.

My point isn't about what language people would be speaking in the future, it's about where the world's elite will come from, or at least what their cultural background is.  I highly doubt that Americans can maintain their edge given the attitudes many Americans I've encountered feel about people who are educated. They look down on them, say their "book smart, but don't have street smarts". (Which means what, I won't be able to score some weed if I want? How will that help me?) Granted there are 1.4 crapload billion Chinese, so the ones I encounter of more likely to be the educated elites. Their leagues ahead of the rednecks I come from simply because I don't come from that equivalent elite background.

Horrible comparison, you yourself admit that you only have knowledge of Chinese educational elite while just playing into american sterotypes I would refrain from making that argument in the future if I were you.

More Americans then ever are going to college, we( English speaking world) have the best educational facilities in the world and we( western world) have 8 of the 11 largest economies in the world. The developing world experiences significant brain drain to western nations. 

Lastly although china has 4-5 times the population of the United States it only had twice the number of college graduates. 

Modifié par Irishfafnir, 27 avril 2012 - 12:19 .

[mmm buddah23]

Aryck1095 V2 wrote...

For the record, I actually think the "Americans" are really Canadian, seeing as Bioware is based in Canada. Well, technically anyone who lives on the American continents is "American", though the term is typically applied when refering to people from the USA. Or maybe, that's what you meant?

Confusing, much? Oh, my head...

In the ME universe, Canada was taken over by the US.

[Foxhound2121]

tractrpl wrote...



They don't even do that. The only Chinese from the mainland coming to HK are the rich and powerful, basically (or the very smart). The labor classes come from within their own citizenry.

Exactly, so what you see in a much of their cities is not a good interpretation of China.  

Modifié par Foxhound2121, 27 avril 2012 - 12:24 .

[tractrpl]

Irishfafnir wrote...

Horrible comparison, you yourself admit that you only have knowledge of Chinese educational elite while just playing into american sterotypes I would refrain from making that argument in the future if I were you.

More Americans then ever are going to college, we( English speaking world) have the best educational facilities in the world and we( western world) have 8 of the 11 largest economies in the world. The developing world experiences significant brain drain to western nations. 

Lastly although china has 4-5 times the population of the United States it only had twice the number of college graduates. 

But China is rising. They were hammered hard because of the opium wars, exploitation from Europe and Japan, and then there was WWII, the civil war, and finally Mao Zedong. He damn near did more damage than any foreign country. But they're rebuilding. Their number of college graduates is growing as well, as is the quality of their native educational institutions. 

What have we been doing in the meantime? We've been stagnating, not making any effort to improve. Let's look at it this way. If far more Asian Americans go to college than the average American, why? Don't you think it's tied to their culture, their values? Yes, white Jews far outnumber asians percentage-wise, but there's only 7 million of them compared to the billions of Asians. If China continues it's rise, they'll have more spare cash to spend on education and research. Unless they get raped by us westerners again like we did to them during the 1800's, there's no stopping them. They will dominate us eventually. 

[Xmus88]

Irishfafnir wrote...

Yes English is the most widely spoken language in the world,Mandarin Chinese is not spoken outside of mainland china except for in immigrant communities. The fact that English is a secondary language is irrelevant. If you want to say that English is not the largest native speaking language in the world then that is quite true, however not pertinent to the discussion of why does everyone speak English in space!

The reason all humans would speak English is because it is the quasi international language. In space multiple human nationalities would be forced to communicate and the chosen language would more then likely be English as it is largely today. Go to any random country in the world and speak English more likely then not someone will understand you, the same can not be said for any other language.


Why would Bioware waste time putting in alien talk we couldn't understand it wouldn't add anything to the story, since we couldn't understand it. If you ever played KOTOR or KOTOR 2 they did have aliens who did not speak english and it was quite annoying to listen to them talk.

First of all, of those 1.5 billion people who speak english it is probable that only 40% of them speaks english on a daily basis, which is less than the native chinese speakers. 

But you are correct this is beside the point. Actually I think you are missing my point entirely, I'm not saying that it is not reasonable the people would communicate in english in the future, and i'm not saying that they should make minute long conversations with only subtitles, but I think it takes away from the universe when all conversation is english in north american dialects(with a few exceptions) when you think about just how many human languages there are, not to mention alien languages and dialects.

And actually I thought it was pretty cool that they had alien languages in KOTOR, the biggest problem was the they reused the same 5 sound files to compose these languages, which made it sound very repetitive and boring.