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[MartialArtsSurfer]

GodlessPaladin wrote...
Unfortunately the video quality is limited, but I'm not willing to shell out a few hundred dollars for a capture card.  If anyone knows an affordable alternative for recording X360 gameplay I'm all ears.

You can get USB video capture stick for about $5 new on ebay or more advanced video capture cards for $50-100 on ebay too .. 

Save to HDD XBOX 360,PS3,Wii,DV,​VHS,SpyCam USB 2.0 DC60 Win 7 Video Easy Capture 

http://www.ebay.com/...#ht_2388wt_1399 

hope that helps

more:
http://www.ebay.com/..._catref=1&_sc=1 

Modifié par MartialArtsSurfer, 26 avril 2012 - 06:27 .

[Knarax]

What would you reccomend using here? I have a claymore 6, gps 4 and carnifex 6.
Prob a spec as listed in the op or someting very close.

[JGDD]

Knarax wrote...

What would you reccomend using here? I have a claymore 6, gps 4 and carnifex 6.
Prob a spec as listed in the op or someting very close.

Depends on what you like doing. This build spec can be played several ways. If you are a gold runner then the Claymore is King. Period. The others have a role but your best bet is the hardest hitting thing you have. It shines in tight combat situations and still holds its own at range.

Feel like playing silver or bronze? Ditch the Claymore in favor a phalanx with the Stunner/AP mods and turn anything unfortunate enough to get in your way into plasma puddles. This works, too. It's also fun to liquify stuff for a change of pace.

Or just grab anything and try it. You might be surprised at how versatile it can be.

[B3ckett]

GodlessPaladin wrote...


Unfortunately the video quality is limited, but I'm not willing to shell out a few hundred dollars for a capture card.  If anyone knows an affordable alternative for recording X360 gameplay I'm all ears.

Cheers,

had the same problem. I wanted to record some of the gameplay from X360 and just couldn't bring myself to spending hundreds of dollars.
What I found is DC60+ for funny money: ~20$

Here's a bit of what I've recorded with a DC60 - which can't catch PAL in 60Hz (no quality adjustments). No problems w NTSC though:


Here's a bit recorded with DC60+, so Pal 60Hz. BF3 too.

I'm going to grab some ME3 footage.

Hope this helps.

Modifié par B3ckett, 26 avril 2012 - 07:31 .

[GodlessPaladin]

B3ckett wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...


Unfortunately the video quality is limited, but I'm not willing to shell out a few hundred dollars for a capture card.  If anyone knows an affordable alternative for recording X360 gameplay I'm all ears.

Cheers,

had the same problem. I wanted to record some of the gameplay from X360 and just couldn't bring myself to spending hundreds of dollars.
What I found is DC60+ for funny money: ~20$

Here's a bit of what I've recorded with a DC60 - which can't catch PAL in 60Hz (no quality adjustments). No problems w NTSC though:


Here's a bit recorded with DC60+, so Pal 60Hz. BF3 too.

I'm going to grab some ME3 footage.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the suggestions!  I'll look into these options

Wesus wrote...

Really? Sorry but I got a HDMI cable with
my Xbox that was compatible with the dazzle. Its lesser game quality but
you dont have to record with à camera . Imo for the 40 bucks its
worth it considering à HDMI-PVR is 250 bucks :/.

Out of my
personal experiences the dazzle works with my crappy laptop from year
2004 so I dont know how to fix the lag as my laptop is old as hell ( it
also works on my good computer but nvm).

Sorry if you dont like it but most people I know who bought it, are happy with it.

But... the Dazzle can't use HDMI cables period...?

Are you sure you don't mean the double headed component cable?

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 26 avril 2012 - 07:39 .

[B3ckett]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

B3ckett wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...


Unfortunately the video quality is limited, but I'm not willing to shell out a few hundred dollars for a capture card.  If anyone knows an affordable alternative for recording X360 gameplay I'm all ears.

Cheers,

had the same problem. I wanted to record some of the gameplay from X360 and just couldn't bring myself to spending hundreds of dollars.
What I found is DC60+ for funny money: ~20$

Here's a bit of what I've recorded with a DC60 - which can't catch PAL in 60Hz (no quality adjustments). No problems w NTSC though:


Here's a bit recorded with DC60+, so Pal 60Hz. BF3 too.

I'm going to grab some ME3 footage.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the suggestions!  I'll look into these options

Wesus wrote...

Really? Sorry but I got a HDMI cable with
my Xbox that was compatible with the dazzle. Its lesser game quality but
you dont have to record with à camera . Imo for the 40 bucks its
worth it considering à HDMI-PVR is 250 bucks :/.

Out of my
personal experiences the dazzle works with my crappy laptop from year
2004 so I dont know how to fix the lag as my laptop is old as hell ( it
also works on my good computer but nvm).

Sorry if you dont like it but most people I know who bought it, are happy with it.

But... the Dazzle can't use HDMI cables period...?

Are you sure you don't mean the double headed component cable?

I think in general you can't use HDMI cables, because the singal is encrypted (or smth).
Dazzle is ~40-50 bucks. It's almost the same thing as DC60+ (~20 bucks), althrough I find Dazzle looking a bit more reliable and better made. Plus I'd reckon it has slightly better chipsets.

[eldrjth]

Feneckus wrote...

I thought the points were distributed according to how much damage you've dealt.

If you kill an Atlas on your own, you'll get like 2000 points.

If you just deal the critical blow, you'll get like 300 and your teammates share 2000 - 300. 

Is this not how it works ?

You said a shotgun infiltrator "wouldn't do so well on an open map".

Anyway, you play on PC right ? If you consider yourself a competant sniper, let's set up a game, then we'll see who's right. Origin ID : Feneckus

sometimes you dont get much points for the kill sometimes you get a lot of points. dont know the specifics or the mechanics of it. all I know is if you stay with the main group the aggregate score will be a lot higher. if you leave group it will be lower. I can get the kill shot on primes for 1000 points sometimes but at othertimes I get only 300. I also killed phantoms for only 40 points too. dont even know if a patch changed to scoring system either tbh since I havent played sal infil in a long while. im pretty sure I killed an atlas with about 2 bars of armour remaining and got 1100k for it only recently and only fired a single shot at it. also you didnt dominant on condor like glacier (infact not close to it). I can produce a lot of scores from every map of 150k plus (hydra is good as well as condor for snipers, but not so good for shotguns, pretty much observably the case).

as for going head to head it would mean I wont revive you as I dont for other shot gun infil that leave group lol.

Modifié par eldrjth, 26 avril 2012 - 07:54 .

[Sacrificial Bias]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

Knarax wrote...

What would you reccomend using here? I have a claymore 6, gps 4 and carnifex 6.
Prob a spec as listed in the op or someting very close.

Depends on what you like doing. This build spec can be played several ways. If you are a gold runner then the Claymore is King. Period. The others have a role but your best bet is the hardest hitting thing you have. It shines in tight combat situations and still holds its own at range.

Feel like playing silver or bronze? Ditch the Claymore in favor a phalanx with the Stunner/AP mods and turn anything unfortunate enough to get in your way into plasma puddles. This works, too. It's also fun to liquify stuff for a change of pace.

Or just grab anything and try it. You might be surprised at how versatile it can be.

I could be doing it wrong, but I was severely underwhelmed by the Claymore.  Used Damage and Smart Choke mods, but had a hell of a time killing anything with it.  Am I doing it wrong?  The spread is still bad enough that most of the pellets will miss the head unless I'm close enough to kiss my target.  At point blank range it'll kill a Geth Hunter easily, and I find the amount of ownage varies each time.  Sometimes the shot won't even take off the shields.

[GodlessPaladin]

B3ckett wrote...
I think in general you can't use HDMI cables, because the singal is encrypted (or smth).
Dazzle is ~40-50 bucks. It's almost the same thing as DC60+ (~20 bucks), althrough I find Dazzle looking a bit more reliable and better made. Plus I'd reckon it has slightly better chipsets.

Well anyways, my current problem is that I have a Dazzle and no way to use it and still actually view my game on my TV...

[Ben Shep]

Yosuke wrote...

Widowlover wrote...

i only shoot if i have to, the gi or speed bump as me and my buddys called it is way to fun to just run in and melt everything. it was funny to watch the noobs with there GI widows hiding while i was out roaming around melting hunters and phantoms,who shoots things with the GI? new kids LOL.

This is ironic coming from someone named widowlover, lol.

I believe your a kid yourself widowlover as the pointless private messages you sent me prove.

[cgtrfghj7]

i tried out this setup, switching between claymore, gps, and graal. must say the claymore works wonders on this setup.

another silly question: does the melee lose any damage/range when performed with no shields?

[SpiffyNova]

First off, Thanks for this build. I waited nearly two weeks for my GI and after I got him, I just sorta stared at him for a while because I was not sure which way I wanted to go with him. Tried this build out and was very pleased with the results. This is the result of my very first game with him.



I can not play too many rounds with him though. Hunter Mode. I am fortunate that I do not get headaches from it, but it still gets to me after a while. 

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Well anyways, my current problem is that I have a Dazzle and no way to use it and still actually view my game on my TV...

With the Dazzle, you might try to put RCA splitters on the end of the 360 cables and send one set to the TV and the other set to the Dazzle. That way you could play on the TV and record on the Dazzle. Just a thought.

And also, I hope you are happy. I can't get that Commander Shepard song out of my head!

[Feneckus]

eldrjth wrote...

hydra is good as well as condor for snipers, but not so good for shotguns, pretty much observably the case.

Seriously, how many screenshots do you need ? A shotgun infiltrator can dominate on every single map. 

as for going head to head it would mean I wont revive you as I dont for other shot gun infil that leave group lol.

Fine, whatever.

[Yriss]

Curzyfish wrote...

Yriss wrote...

I only watched the first video, but I think I got the jist of it. Thanks!

The biggest surprise for me in the video was spamming heavy melee instead of doing one long sustained one. I didn't spec my Geth Infiltrator for melee, but I'll try it out with my current build anyway.

In future videos, if you can, could you list the songs you used? Some of them were pretty interesting.

The thing to note about spamming the heavy melee vs letting it pulse is that is uses up more shields.  starting each heavy melee uses like 1/4 of your sheilds, while letting it pulse after the first uses like 1/8.  I usually just let it pulse if there is nothing else within sight that  can shoot at me to conserve shields more, and spam it (no more than twice usually) when it's more important to hit and run.

I died a lot trying the melee last night on Silver (sorry, random team mates!). Hahah! Thank you for the tips regarding the spam vs pulse; I'll keep them in mind next time.

May need to use one of those re-spec cards too...

[eldrjth]

Feneckus wrote...

eldrjth wrote...

hydra is good as well as condor for snipers, but not so good for shotguns, pretty much observably the case.

Seriously, how many screenshots do you need ? A shotgun infiltrator can dominate on every single map. 

as for going head to head it would mean I wont revive you as I dont for other shot gun infil that leave group lol.

Fine, whatever.

I just had a match with a shotgun geth infil. his config was claymore X with heavy barrel and AP ammo consumable. I didnt take note of the other specifics. he was n7 3xx and we played on firebase ghost against reapers. my config was sal eng with valiant I and no consumables. depending on how we played and which enemies we targeted (i.e. if we ingored elites or not) either of us could be infront on the score board at any given time, though I believe I controlled the pace. whenever I wanted to I could run past the bulk of the units even while being fired at to penetrate the rear of the reaper force while he was more vulnerable to damage. when I ran past the enemy I could take down easy targets like marauders, canabal, ravagers brutes while he was occupied with a banshee and visa-vera. the claymore is better when taking out a banshee since she has no head but for most other units the valiant seemed the better weapon. I had a 17k points lead going into round 10 objective and hadnt fired a missile at that point (not sure about him though). for point scoring accuracy I tried to avoid it and also medi-gel. we got the hacking objective and eventually got swarmed with banshees and brutes with me holding the capture area longer imo. all 4 of us lay dying in about a 3m radius of one another when he revived himself with a medi-gel and blasted the 2 banshees, brute and other units on top of us then finished out the wave. I was ontop of the scoreboard before this but after wave 10 he had a 10k points adv. I narrowed the gap before we extracted to 8k. scores were 128k V 120k and aggregate score was 400k. lag as always was bad on my end, not sure about his. but I didnt even get 20 heatshots which I get usually in wave 3-4.

[JGDD]

Sacrificial Bias wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

Knarax wrote...

What would you reccomend using here? I have a claymore 6, gps 4 and carnifex 6.
Prob a spec as listed in the op or someting very close.

Depends on what you like doing. This build spec can be played several ways. If you are a gold runner then the Claymore is King. Period. The others have a role but your best bet is the hardest hitting thing you have. It shines in tight combat situations and still holds its own at range.

Feel like playing silver or bronze? Ditch the Claymore in favor a phalanx with the Stunner/AP mods and turn anything unfortunate enough to get in your way into plasma puddles. This works, too. It's also fun to liquify stuff for a change of pace.

Or just grab anything and try it. You might be surprised at how versatile it can be.

I could be doing it wrong, but I was severely underwhelmed by the Claymore.  Used Damage and Smart Choke mods, but had a hell of a time killing anything with it.  Am I doing it wrong?  The spread is still bad enough that most of the pellets will miss the head unless I'm close enough to kiss my target.  At point blank range it'll kill a Geth Hunter easily, and I find the amount of ownage varies each time.  Sometimes the shot won't even take off the shields.

You are firing a proxy mine first, right? That debuffs them heavily. When used like this a level X Claymore can one shot a brute/raveger on gold and put a severe dent in a banshee's health.

[Lima54]

This build was good in some maps where I played, but it really shone in Firebase Glacier. My companions almost had no time to kill the enemies, because I went to their spawn points, launched a proximity mine and melted them, even achieving a killstreak. Unfortunately, I lost connection to the game in the last wave, so when I came back (friend hosting), it was nearly at the end and gained 0 credits.

[GodlessPaladin]

SpiffyNova wrote...
With the Dazzle, you might try to put RCA splitters on the end of the 360 cables and send one set to the TV and the other set to the Dazzle. That way you could play on the TV and record on the Dazzle. Just a thought.

  Gaaah, more stuff I have to buy...

[Vhira]

Does the Hunter Mode rate of fire evolution affect one shot weapons like the Claymore?

Or do you take Power Damage instead?

[GodlessPaladin]

Vhira wrote...

Does the Hunter Mode rate of fire evolution affect one shot weapons like the Claymore?

Or do you take Power Damage instead?

I took Power Damage instead, as stated earlier in the thread.  And it's totally useful... notice the frequency Proximity Mine is killing things in the vids.  Between Melee Synergy, Hunter Mode, Cloak, and its good base damage and high area and ability to hit through cover... Proximity Mine is getting me a lot of kills.

[peddroelm]

OK - did some tests on Infiltrator Melee skills on SP ... here

Using the character build//weapon provided at the start of the thread I can now calculate the Damage of the Geth Heavy Melee Pulses vs Shield,Barrier, Health (Heavy Melee does 75% Damage vs armor ..)

From the build provided :

Cloak 90% WD 90% PD 140% MD
Proximity Mine 20%+50% damage
*********EDIT - was ignoring HM bonuses to melee & power damage**********
Hunter Mode 25% WD , 25%+15% PD, 25% MD
*********EDIT*************
NI 5% WD, 15% PD
Adv Hardware 95% MD (+75% MD 30% WD temporary after HM kill )


Claymore X (extended Barel V, bayonet V) (25% WD, *1.25 MD)
=======================

Proximity Mine damage from cloak (huge area)
400 * (1 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.5 + 0.15 + 0.15 + 0.25) = 1260

Proximity Mine damage from cloak - with power synergy
400 * (1 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.5 + 0.15 + 0.15 + 0.3 + 0.25) = 1380

=======================

Heavy Pulse Damage from cloak - without Melee Synergy on top of proxy debuff

375 * (1 + 1.4 + 0.95 + 0.25) * 1.25 * 1.2 = 2025

Heavy Pulse Damage from cloak - with Melee Synergy on top of proxy debuff

375 * (1 + 1.4 + 0.95 + 0.75 + 0.25) * 1.25 * 1.2 = 2446.875

=======================

Claymore X damage vs Shield//Barrier//health (ignoring ap ammo for the moment) on top of proxy debuff - body hits (no hs bonus) from cloak

206 * (1 + 0.9 + 0.25 + 0.05 + 0.25) * 8 * 1.2 = 4845.12

****EDIT***
I recommend using an ammo power ...GI gets so many PD enhancements that buff ammo power damage ..
****

Modifié par peddroelmz, 11 mai 2012 - 04:07 .

[AshirahTSparkle]

What do you think of trading the 3 levels of networked ai for bonus power in cloak? Seems like it could be a life saver at times.

Been using your build on Gold and it is really awesome! But i used the GPS instead of claymore. Because I do horribly with 1 shot shotguns.

[GodlessPaladin]

AshirahTSparkle wrote...

What do you think of trading the 3 levels of networked ai for bonus power in cloak? Seems like it could be a life saver at times.

  I think that's a perfectly fine alternative choice, yeah.

[darthoreo]

darthoreo wrote...

what do you mean but reload canceling?

[Ravennus]

peddroelmz wrote...

OK - did some tests on Infiltrator Melee skills on SP ... here

Using the character build//weapon provided at the start of the thread I can now calculate the Damage of the Geth Heavy Melee Pulses vs Shield,Barrier, Health (Heavy Melee does 75% Damage vs armor ..)

From the build provided :

Cloak 90% WD 90% PD 140% MD
Proximity Mine 20%+50% damage
Hunter Mode 25% WD , 15 %PD
NI 5% WD, 15% PD
Adv Hardware 95% MD (+75% MD 30% WD temporary after HM kill )


Claymore X (extended Barel V, bayonet V) (25% WD, *1.25 MD)
=======================

Proximity Mine damage from cloak (huge area)
400 * (1 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.5 + 0.15 + 0.15 ) = 1160

Proximity Mine damage from cloak - with power synergy
400 * (1 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.5 + 0.15 + 0.15 + 0.3) = 1280

=======================

Heavy Pulse Damage from cloak - without Melee Synergy on top of proxy debuff

375 * (1 + 1.4 + 0.95) * 1.25 * 1.2 = 1884.375

Heavy Pulse Damage from cloak - with Melee Synergy on top of proxy debuff

375 * (1 + 1.4 + 0.95 + 0.75) * 1.25 * 1.2 = 2306.25

=======================

Claymore X damage vs Shield//Barrier//health (ignoring ap ammo for the moment) on top of proxy debuff - body hits (no hs bonus) from cloak

206 * (1 + 0.9 + 0.25 + 0.05 + 0.25) * 8 * 1.2 = 4845.12

Very interesting... thanks for the math, peddroelmz.


Something I'm curious about... how does a cloaked fully charged GPS shot + cloaked snap shot compare, damage wise?
As far as I know, you should still be able to fire Prox Mine (without rank 6 cloak), fire charged shot then immediately fire another GPS snap shot in the cloak bonus damage window.

I'm wondering if the damage would compare to just the claymore cloaked shot or not.

Mind you, the GPS would get an extra 5% damage from Networked AI at lvl 3, I believe.


Thanks!