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AshirahTSparkle wrote...

What do you think of trading the 3 levels of networked ai for bonus power in cloak? Seems like it could be a life saver at times.

Been using your build on Gold and it is really awesome! But i used the GPS instead of claymore. Because I do horribly with 1 shot shotguns.


That's actually my exact build... no networked AI but Rank 6 in Cloak.


My playstyle is a little different from Paladin's, and I keep my cooldowns much lower due to not carrying the Claymore.
With the Claymore, his build is perfect as there is really no significant reason to go Rank 6.... as your native cooldowns are so low due to weight.

But if you have a really high level GPS or Carnifax, you can actually get off 2 proximity mines in one cloak, which can be useful at times.  With 200% recharge from weight, PM recharges super fast (little more than 2 seconds), so cloak, PM, wait a couple tics, them PM again and go to town.
Of course it's a little longer recharge even with GPS X, but it opens up a couple tactical possibilities.

I play a bit more cautiously than Paladin, and I'm not nearly as good with a Claymore, so it works for me.

Not saying it's better than his build, especially if you are REALLY good with the Claymore like he is (I'm still working on that, lol), but I enjoy it and it's very viable on Gold still.


I'm actually really curious if the +20% debuff from Proximity Mine stacks.
I get the feeling it does, but I haven't done any specific testing for it.
If it does stack, that opens up some great teamwork possibilities, as you could get a +40% damage for about 6 seconds or so.

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Eckswhyzed wrote...

Just finished a Reapers/Gold/Giant match and frickin destroyed face. Loadout was Graal w/ Ext barrel and spare clips, no mods.

And my teammates were a Tuian soldier, Human engineer and a level 15 BF3 soldier.

Conclusions: Graal is an absolute beast vs. reapers as you can kill brutes and ravagers in one cloak cycle. Interior area provides a lot of cover for some hot, sweet plasma melting action. There's also more cover in the centre area than you might think - the hack objective there actually went pretty well.


Why in the name of god was a Turian Soldier, Human Engineer and a BF3 soldier in a gold match?

I'm not gonna say you NEED to have a salarian infil, asari adept and so on. But really? Human Engy is a beast, but he doesn't have anything the salarian or geth engineers couldn't do better. The BF3 soldier is severly underpowered unless he had an awesome semi auto gun (I like the saber) and carnage spam. And the turian soldier? I just... Well skill and weapon loadout is the important thing, but those classes would need to be some SKILLED players to roll on gold.

Also. <3 Graal. Probably my favorite weapon in the game. Paladin, Saber, Graal, Mantis. (only cause I haven't tried the BW or Valiant)

Modifié par Fisterbear, 27 avril 2012 - 12:00 .


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Feneckus wrote...


A sniper can't dominate on Dagger/Hydra or whatever as much as a shotgun infiltrator can dominate on White/Glacier.

but I dont believe they can do so well in a wide/open map like condor, hydra, dagger, ghost, giant where enemies can be taken down conveniently as they spawn.


Wrong.

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And believe it or not, the lag was pretty bad.


CLEARLY he wasn't wrong as you didn't outscore your team by 100,000 points like you did the last 4 games...

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Yeah, I went there.

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my gps proxy build generally get me above 140k depending on team.

Might try using a gps with your melee type build cause I don't use fitness past 4 currently.

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I've been trying this build out; it seems less than ideal for solo/two-man games, as going down from time to time is pretty much inevitable with this playstyle. If even one enemy is left alive somewhere with LOS to fire on you after your proxy/claymore/melee burst, you're going down because of how fragile the GI is, and with less teammates you're going to be the target of more enemies. The strength of this build is its aoe burst with proxy mine/melee, and if you can't do that reasonably safely, you're reduced to proxy/shotgun, which in some situations will be noticeably worse than proxy/bw.

As such, I'm not sure yet whether it's more efficient than my old bw/sniping build overall, meaning every map and every situation, but at the very least it's a nice change of pace. I'm sure I can get better with it, as I'm still not entirely used to the geth heavy melee range. I'll experiment with it more, hopefully with a full team sometime.

Modifié par Yosuke, 27 avril 2012 - 06:29 .


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Ravennus wrote...

Very interesting... thanks for the math, peddroelmz.


Something I'm curious about... how does a cloaked fully charged GPS shot + cloaked snap shot compare, damage wise?
As far as I know, you should still be able to fire Prox Mine (without rank 6 cloak), fire charged shot then immediately fire another GPS snap shot in the cloak bonus damage window.

I'm wondering if the damage would compare to just the claymore cloaked shot or not.

Mind you, the GPS would get an extra 5% damage from Networked AI at lvl 3, I believe.


Thanks!



5% Geth Weapons is applied to weapon base damage

GPS X

Body Shot Fully charged from cloak with prox mine debuff
892.7 * 1.05 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * (1 + 0.9 + 0.25 + 0.05 + 0.25) * 1.2 = 4409.22384 

Body Shot snap shot from cloak with prox mine debuff
892.7 * 1.05 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * 0.45 * (1 + 0.9 + 0.25 + 0.05 + 0.25) * 1.2 = 1984.15073 (damage will be a bit higher because of how the continous charge modifier works)

Damage is good  - but you lose the ability to headshot kill enemies trough walls//cover (with hunter mode on sometimes it can be difficult to notice if there is an obstacle between you and your target )  ....Also you lose ability to do double weapon damage vs Atlases ...

Modifié par peddroelmz, 27 avril 2012 - 06:50 .


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defleshing wrote...

that's fine but there are plenty of similar guides already up on youtube showing the exact same thing done by people with capture cards but if you did it for your fan club than you defiantly don't want to disappoint the fans. lol

Aw yeah, I started the GodlessPaladin fanclub before he got big!

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peddroelmz wrote...

Ravennus wrote...

Very interesting... thanks for the math, peddroelmz.


Something I'm curious about... how does a cloaked fully charged GPS shot + cloaked snap shot compare, damage wise?
As far as I know, you should still be able to fire Prox Mine (without rank 6 cloak), fire charged shot then immediately fire another GPS snap shot in the cloak bonus damage window.

I'm wondering if the damage would compare to just the claymore cloaked shot or not.

Mind you, the GPS would get an extra 5% damage from Networked AI at lvl 3, I believe.


Thanks!



5% Geth Weapons is applied to weapon base damage

GPS X

Body Shot Fully charged from cloak with prox mine debuff
892.7 * 1.05 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * (1 + 0.9 + 0.25 + 0.05 + 0.25) * 1.2 = 4409.22384 

Body Shot snap shot from cloak with prox mine debuff
892.7 * 1.05 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * 0.45 * (1 + 0.9 + 0.25 + 0.05 + 0.25) * 1.2 = 1984.15073 (damage will be a bit higher because of how the continous charge modifier works)

Damage is good  - but you lose the ability to headshot kill enemies trough walls//cover (with hunter mode on sometimes it can be difficult to notice if there is an obstacle between you and your target )  ....Also you lose ability to do double weapon damage vs Atlases ...


Very interesting, thanks for doing the math!


Well, today I tried GodlessPaladin's build for a while.... and found I would definitely need a lot more practice with it!
I really really really missed being able to fire Proximity Mines without de-cloaking.  I know if doesn't matter if you are going in for the 1-2 punch of PM+H.Melee.... but I don't know, but sometimes I like tossing them out on things I'm not necessarily planning on Meleeing right away (or at all).
The lower cooldown on PMs and max-length cloak really annoyed me too.
I also went for the extra 10% damage on Rank 6 on Hunter Mode, and really missed the extra speed and 30m range for my x-ray vision.  I know I could switch it back, but I wanted to try GodlessPaladin's build exactly first.

I also tried it with my GPS VI, and actually seemed to do better (yeaaaaaah, I'm sorry.... I suck at headshots so bad.  Even with a friggin Claymore. Sad, ain't it? LOL).  

I dunno, I gave it a good college try!  I think I'm too used to my 6/6/6/0/6 playstyle, which personally I play a lot differently.

I'll give it another go sometime!  Perhaps when my aim is better, and I can somehow do the reload cancel trick without thinking about it (practice practice, I know).


So I respeced back, and felt at home again.  Even jumped in a random Silver PUG to relax (as much as HM induced migraines allow me to... yes, I'm one of THOSE).

Ended up being bummed out when another player with a mic started cursing at me and calling me a hacker, etc, etc... because I was scoring so well.
I ended up getting DC'd from the EA servers soon after though, but that didn't stop this guy from harrasing me with over 10 voice messages calling me every name in the book, insulting my home country (Canada), and calling my mother a ****.

Really?  Really?

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Ended up being bummed out when another player with a mic started cursing at me and calling me a hacker, etc, etc... because I was scoring so well.
I ended up getting DC'd from the EA servers soon after though, but that didn't stop this guy from harrasing me with over 10 voice messages calling me every name in the book, insulting my home country (Canada), and calling my mother a ****.

Really? Really?

You'd be surprised.  The better you get, the more it happens, and the worse the insults get.  I've gotten graphic death threats for beating someone in a videogame before.  There just seems to be a certain class of people whose egos cannot withstand the notion that someone is better at a game than them, and will make up all manner of nonsense lies to tell themselves... and then shout them to the world.

What's really depressing is when you get messages like "You're garbage I could get twice your score easily if I was playing that super cheap scrub class" when you're playing a Human Soldier. <_<

Of course these people are completely unprovoked and often as not strike when I haven't said a single word on the mic, beyond maybe "Hey, what's up, anyone talk?" and getting no response as usual.  And then they apparently actually plug in their mic or something specifically to start trash-talking mid-game when they see that I'm doing well.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 27 avril 2012 - 08:21 .


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GodlessPaladin wrote...

SpiffyNova wrote...
With the Dazzle, you might try to put RCA splitters on the end of the 360 cables and send one set to the TV and the other set to the Dazzle. That way you could play on the TV and record on the Dazzle. Just a thought.

  Gaaah, more stuff I have to buy...


Splitters cost ~1 $, so it ain't that much of a cost, but the view of all those cables...<_<

You insert the splitters into your RGB ports in TV. You plug the X360 cables there. And another RCA cable goes from the empty slot in the splitter to your dazzle.
I also went with a chinch-2-minijack and plugged the audio right into the mic port in my laptop (due to the low quality of sound processing of DC60).

Then you're all set. It looks like a mess, but I got everything under 30$. I will try ME3 with my equipment and see how it looks like.

Hope you solve your issues too. :)

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GodlessPaladin wrote...

Ended up being bummed out when another player with a mic started cursing at me and calling me a hacker, etc, etc... because I was scoring so well.
I ended up getting DC'd from the EA servers soon after though, but that didn't stop this guy from harrasing me with over 10 voice messages calling me every name in the book, insulting my home country (Canada), and calling my mother a ****.

Really? Really?

You'd be surprised. The better you get, the more it happens, and the worse the insults get. I've gotten graphic death threats :-

What's really depressing is when you get a messages like "****got you're garbage I could beat you easily if I was playing that super cheap class" when you're playing a Human Soldier.  <_<


Really?  Damn...

ME3 is honestly the first time I've ever really played a lot of multiplayer on Xbox Live.
I've met some awesome people who are on my friends list, but this honestly disturbed me.
I guess I need to grow a tougher hide?

I never NEVER gloat when I'm playing, but he just started ripping on me.  I thought he was yelling at the Cerberus goons for a minute!
Then when I tried to explain, he just lost it on me.  He wouldn't hear about the build or anything.
Now that I think about it... I think he was on another Geth Infiltrator with the Black Widow III and no Prox mines that I could see.

He just kept yelling that it wasn't mathematically possible for me to get so much 'XP', as he called it.

He also accused me of using an 'aimbot' (WTF?) because he saw me apparently shoot things through walls?
Um, I hardly fire my gun except against those Guardians... it was likely all the proximity mine kills he saw me get. 

I was kind of glad when I got disconnected from the EA server, but bummed at the same time (I wanted those credits, damnit!!).


That just made him even more irate, as he thought I left on purpose.


Oh well..... I blocked him after it was obvious he wouldn't listen and also filed a complaint over Xbox Live against him for verbal abuse and harassment ingame and via voice messaging.
It's funny, because he said he was going to report me for hacking.

Not that I expect MS to do anything.... oh well.  I'm usually a nice person, and stuff like this bugs the **** out of me.

I offered to show him my build.... play a few games with him to prove I wasn't hacking and maybe convert him to the build, but it was just all pure rage and foul language... and apparently racism because I'm Canadian?  WTF?

Just wow.





ANYWAY, besides that.... thanks for the vids and info GodlessPaladin!  It was all great, and even though it's not my cup-o-tea at the moment, it's good to know the option is there and that you can dominate so well with it if played right.

Keep it up!  *high-fives* 

Modifié par Ravennus, 27 avril 2012 - 08:19 .


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Ravennus wrote...

Ended up being bummed out when another player with a mic started cursing at me and calling me a hacker, etc, etc... because I was scoring so well.
I ended up getting DC'd from the EA servers soon after though, but that didn't stop this guy from harrasing me with over 10 voice messages calling me every name in the book, insulting my home country (Canada), and calling my mother a ****.

Really?  Really?


That's really sad that people can be so callous over a game.

Anyway, the nice thing about the GI is it's versatility. You can spec this dude so many ways and make it work there aren't any completely bad builds. Unless you try real hard.

I've recently played with someone that posted in this thread and can say with 100% honesty that theirs is just as deadly as GP's or my old, and your current, specs. If it works for you, use it. :)

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GodlessPaladin wrote...

Ended up being bummed out when another player with a mic started cursing at me and calling me a hacker, etc, etc... because I was scoring so well.
I ended up getting DC'd from the EA servers soon after though, but that didn't stop this guy from harrasing me with over 10 voice messages calling me every name in the book, insulting my home country (Canada), and calling my mother a ****.

Really? Really?

You'd be surprised.  The better you get, the more it happens, and the worse the insults get.  I've gotten graphic death threats for beating someone in a videogame before.  There just seems to be a certain class of people whose egos cannot withstand the notion that someone is better at a game than them, and will make up all manner of nonsense lies to tell themselves... and then shout them to the world.

What's really depressing is when you get messages like "You're garbage I could get twice your score easily if I was playing that super cheap scrub class" when you're playing a Human Soldier. <_<

Of course these people are completely unprovoked and often as not strike when I haven't said a single word on the mic, beyond maybe "Hey, what's up, anyone talk?" and getting no response as usual.  And then they apparently actually plug in their mic or something specifically to start trash-talking mid-game when they see that I'm doing well.


Heh, yup... I hadn't even said a word during the match until I realized that all his cursing was about ME! lol

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@Ravennus

Be happy you only play me3 in multiplayer then, from all games that i have encountered, this is still the friendliest of all communitys even in pubs

The cod crowd? i play black ops with my bf regularly and everytime i get a run or get angry and go down on their easybuttons, i get called cheater and told to be reported (ive been getting reported on steam since hl2dm...)

The bf3 crowd? some are quite acceptable, but encountering a sore looser there is even more furstrating, i had one that switched teams to just spawn on me and shoot/melee me for the rest of the match because obviously nobody can snipe with red dots -.-

In spacemarine ive only met very few of these annoying dirtbags just like me3

But really, the younger generation of gamers cannot handle whenever they are not the one scoring most with doing less, always begging for a easy victory and no understanding of skills, these are usually also the first to cry cheats

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@Ravennus

Be happy you only play me3 in multiplayer then, from all games that i have encountered, this is still the friendliest of all communitys even in pubs

The cod crowd? i play black ops with my bf regularly and everytime i get a run or get angry and go down on their easybuttons, i get called cheater and told to be reported (ive been getting reported on steam since hl2dm...)

The bf3 crowd? some are quite acceptable, but encountering a sore looser there is even more furstrating, i had one that switched teams to just spawn on me and shoot/melee me for the rest of the match because obviously nobody can snipe with red dots -.-

In spacemarine ive only met very few of these annoying dirtbags just like me3

But really, the younger generation of gamers cannot handle whenever they are not the one scoring most with doing less, always begging for a easy victory and no understanding of skills, these are usually also the first to cry cheats


Yeah... makes me glad I don't play those games online....


Probably one of the most disturbing things about this guy was that he didn't sound like a kid at all!
It would have been easier to take if it was a high-pitched whiny stammering 13 year old....

...but this guy honestly sounded like my high school physics teacher from 15 years ago!
Older, deep voice, and I thought he was going to send me to detention or something.  :blink:

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Ha be carefull or he might ground you and do overtime classes *laughs*

Ye unfortunate it is not dependant on age, i know of one "clan" in both battlefield and balck ops where i am been banned from their server for "aimbotting" and "wallhacking", i know its a older guy as on their website is the picture of a fat old guy that is according to the profile 42 or so

For me age does not determine if someone is an adult, if someone behaves like a 12yo moron they are that even when theyre 90 something

Unfortunate the internet is a big place where lots of people forget manners and common sense

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Fisterbear wrote...

Eckswhyzed wrote...

Just finished a Reapers/Gold/Giant match and frickin destroyed face. Loadout was Graal w/ Ext barrel and spare clips, no mods.

And my teammates were a Tuian soldier, Human engineer and a level 15 BF3 soldier.

Conclusions: Graal is an absolute beast vs. reapers as you can kill brutes and ravagers in one cloak cycle. Interior area provides a lot of cover for some hot, sweet plasma melting action. There's also more cover in the centre area than you might think - the hack objective there actually went pretty well.


Why in the name of god was a Turian Soldier, Human Engineer and a BF3 soldier in a gold match?

I'm not gonna say you NEED to have a salarian infil, asari adept and so on. But really? Human Engy is a beast, but he doesn't have anything the salarian or geth engineers couldn't do better. The BF3 soldier is severly underpowered unless he had an awesome semi auto gun (I like the saber) and carnage spam. And the turian soldier? I just... Well skill and weapon loadout is the important thing, but those classes would need to be some SKILLED players to roll on gold.

Also. <3 Graal. Probably my favorite weapon in the game. Paladin, Saber, Graal, Mantis. (only cause I haven't tried the BW or Valiant)


Public game is why I had such an eclectic selection of classes. Engineer was a skilled friend...everyone else was...not of the same standard.

Played some more today. This build absolutely destroys on Glacier, does pretty well on Dagger. I had some trouble with Reactor. I probably just need to practice up a bit more. Doesn't help that my gaming mouse broke, so I have to rebind some stuff to the keyboard. Ugh.....muscle memory.

The biggest problem I have with this build is that it encourages my already bad habit of running towards enemy groups when I'm a shotgun infiltrator because I'm a big showoff. I take out 4 troopers in one burst and suddenly I think I'm some sort of superman, before finding out that no, 2 centurions + 2 engineers  + 2 phantoms + 2 guardians is NOT a reasonably sized group. Part of playing this build well is realising when it is perfectly okay to NOT heavy melee and just go for an easy shotgun or mine kill.

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defleshing wrote...

if your going to post video guides atleast make them good enough quality to watch. camera on a tv is just tacky


People send me messages asking me to make guides "regardless of video quality."  I'm willing to spend my time and effort to record my gameplay for their benefit, but I'm not willing to shell out a few hundred dollars for a capture card.  If it irks you so much, you could donate one or suggest a reasonably priced alternative. 

Hahahahaha what pot heads are asking you? :D

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Eckswhyzed wrote...

The biggest problem I have with this build is that it encourages my already bad habit of running towards enemy groups when I'm a shotgun infiltrator because I'm a big showoff. I take out 4 troopers in one burst and suddenly I think I'm some sort of superman, before finding out that no, 2 centurions + 2 engineers  + 2 phantoms + 2 guardians is NOT a reasonably sized group. Part of playing this build well is realising when it is perfectly okay to NOT heavy melee and just go for an easy shotgun or mine kill.


I have the same problem. When 3-4 Enemies die I want to go insane and forget that it's Gold. >.<

Modifié par kumquats, 27 avril 2012 - 02:53 .


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Eckswhyzed wrote...

Fisterbear wrote...

Eckswhyzed wrote...

Just finished a Reapers/Gold/Giant match and frickin destroyed face. Loadout was Graal w/ Ext barrel and spare clips, no mods.

And my teammates were a Tuian soldier, Human engineer and a level 15 BF3 soldier.

Conclusions: Graal is an absolute beast vs. reapers as you can kill brutes and ravagers in one cloak cycle. Interior area provides a lot of cover for some hot, sweet plasma melting action. There's also more cover in the centre area than you might think - the hack objective there actually went pretty well.


Why in the name of god was a Turian Soldier, Human Engineer and a BF3 soldier in a gold match?

I'm not gonna say you NEED to have a salarian infil, asari adept and so on. But really? Human Engy is a beast, but he doesn't have anything the salarian or geth engineers couldn't do better. The BF3 soldier is severly underpowered unless he had an awesome semi auto gun (I like the saber) and carnage spam. And the turian soldier? I just... Well skill and weapon loadout is the important thing, but those classes would need to be some SKILLED players to roll on gold.

Also. <3 Graal. Probably my favorite weapon in the game. Paladin, Saber, Graal, Mantis. (only cause I haven't tried the BW or Valiant)


Public game is why I had such an eclectic selection of classes. Engineer was a skilled friend...everyone else was...not of the same standard.

Played some more today. This build absolutely destroys on Glacier, does pretty well on Dagger. I had some trouble with Reactor. I probably just need to practice up a bit more. Doesn't help that my gaming mouse broke, so I have to rebind some stuff to the keyboard. Ugh.....muscle memory.

The biggest problem I have with this build is that it encourages my already bad habit of running towards enemy groups when I'm a shotgun infiltrator because I'm a big showoff. I take out 4 troopers in one burst and suddenly I think I'm some sort of superman, before finding out that no, 2 centurions + 2 engineers  + 2 phantoms + 2 guardians is NOT a reasonably sized group. Part of playing this build well is realising when it is perfectly okay to NOT heavy melee and just go for an easy shotgun or mine kill.


Yup.  Also, the vids should help demonstrate when I choose one or the other.  The equation changes a bit depending on what equipment I'm using though (In those 4 vids, I'm using nothing but an AP mod 1).

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Yup.  Also, the vids should help demonstrate when I choose one or the other.  The equation changes a bit depending on what equipment I'm using though (In those 4 vids, I'm using nothing but an AP mod 1).



Can you upload some videos of you playing on some other maps? I end up having difficulty on Hydra, Condor and Ghost due to the more wide open nature. And by difficulty, I mean I just end up playing like my good old shotgun GI build. Which is perfectly fine, but I keep feeling all those points in fitness are a bit of a waste...

Generally for this build I find Claymore > Graal and GPS, only because using melee automatically fires your charge shot. The Claymore is much better for a finishing blow against anyone that survives the mine -> melee.

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Eckswhyzed wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...


Yup.  Also, the vids should help demonstrate when I choose one or the other.  The equation changes a bit depending on what equipment I'm using though (In those 4 vids, I'm using nothing but an AP mod 1).



Can you upload some videos of you playing on some other maps? I end up having difficulty on Hydra, Condor and Ghost due to the more wide open nature. And by difficulty, I mean I just end up playing like my good old shotgun GI build. Which is perfectly fine, but I keep feeling all those points in fitness are a bit of a waste...

Generally for this build I find Claymore > Graal and GPS, only because using melee automatically fires your charge shot. The Claymore is much better for a finishing blow against anyone that survives the mine -> melee.


I'm holding off on uploading more vids until I sort out this Dazzle thing.

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Eckswhyzed wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...


Yup.  Also, the vids should help demonstrate when I choose one or the other.  The equation changes a bit depending on what equipment I'm using though (In those 4 vids, I'm using nothing but an AP mod 1).



Can you upload some videos of you playing on some other maps? I end up having difficulty on Hydra, Condor and Ghost due to the more wide open nature. And by difficulty, I mean I just end up playing like my good old shotgun GI build. Which is perfectly fine, but I keep feeling all those points in fitness are a bit of a waste...

Generally for this build I find Claymore > Graal and GPS, only because using melee automatically fires your charge shot. The Claymore is much better for a finishing blow against anyone that survives the mine -> melee.


Hydra and Condor are my least favourite maps, but I might be able to give some tips.

With Condor, I found it helpful to sort of camp just down from the extraction area (with the vehicle) between waves.... as long as no one camps the higher hill area, tightly packed spawns are almost guaranteed to spawn there at the start of a wave.   That's when I cloak, run up, and just start destroying the first couple spawns with PM and Melee.
Of course, you have to be more careful in later waves with potential heavies.

Once those spawns are nuked, I'll camp out at the top of the hill and just run back and forth looking for opportunities to gank groups while my team occupies them.  I'll also start the beginning of the wave there in Gold, if I'm worried about heavies spawning.
The top of the hill isn't ideal for other classes because of ammo issues, but for a melee/PM/Shotgun/Pistol Geth, it's great.  You can see a large part of the map and then cloak and run wherever there are opportunities or you are needed.


Hydra..... GRRRRR, I HATE Hyrda!  It's just so wide open!  The minute you decloak, the enemies of line of sight from so many angles!  Still learning this one, but I found it helps to utilize the left corner room with the metallic ball in it.
You can easily see anything coming with Hunter Mode, and just ambush them..... both entrances also lead to areas of the map that allow you to manipulate line-of-sight, so that helps.
Just don't camp in the sniper nest or rush down into the 'killing floor' area in the middle, unless there is only one guy left.  Once you decloak you'll get mowed down unless you are smart and lucky.


Ghost took some practice, but once I figured it out.... it's one of my favourites now!
The trick is to just stay out of the open areas and absolutely HAUNT all the inside buildings.  You can get almost anywhere in that map by staying indoors, and just ambush the crap out of stuff.  Just be careful not to decloak near a window where an enemy has LOS to you, and know when to retreat and flank when needed.
Just don't go all Vanguard Rambo on your team and rush a tempting group in the middle of the various open areas... even if you don't think anything else is around, chances are there is...
Just keep Hunter Mode on... be careful of your surroundings, and you'll do ok.

Oh!  One last tip about Ghost for the Geth Infiltrator!
If you spot a spawn that has just started to drop from one of the upper storage containers (where they jetboot down... happens a lot with Cerberus and Geth), you can sometimes get away with just rushing their drop location and spamming/holding your Heavy Melee attack.  You'll disintigrate anything that drops down, and your team will just stand there in awe.
Still possible on Gold, just be sure to use proxy mines and cloak, then run the heck out of there the minute they stop dropping.... because chances are they they are now spawning somewhere else close by that could have LOS on you very very soon.


Anyway, hope this helps! :D

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Eckswhyzed

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@Ravennus

Played mostly Glacier today and completely wrecked Cerberus. Findings from the other maps:

Condor: You're right - the area with the trucks has some cover that's good to kite around.
Hydra: Control room is okay....except if your team abandons you. That map is great for pretty much any other class for me. Down the ramp from the control room there is an area with an L-shaped configuration of crates plus some wide pillars which can be used to kite around, but you're still very close to the killing floor.
Ghost: NEVER GO INTO THE OPEN. That's it.



In case anyone else hasn't realized already, you should always plot an escape route with hunter mode before you go for a melee.

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GodlessPaladin

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Eckswhyzed wrote...
In case anyone else hasn't realized already, you should always plot an escape route with hunter mode before you go for a melee.


Utilizing the extra awareness of Hunter Mode to better your real time strategizing is definitely a big part of the Geth Infiltrator.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 28 avril 2012 - 07:10 .