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#26
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Gtacatalina wrote...

Do you know if anyone has got the 3,750EMS on single player alone?

I've never seen anybody post visual proof or anything (or I don't remember it).

But the calculated maximum so far is 7,550 assets, which should give you enough EMS for the achievement (assuming 7,500 actually is the cutoff).

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Well now that we've moved this thread to an 'appropriate' forum allow me to register my satisfaction at the swift, timely response to my complaint....

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IanPolaris wrote...

Kub666 wrote...

I can see that the tactic of hiding this issue in technical forum and splitting the thread in three worked - this thread has a lot less traction than the original one.


Of course it has.  This is the forum ghetto, the audience has been isolated by platform and BW clearly wants the problem to go away.  Has Priestly explained yet how a lie isn't a lie yet?  I would love to hear that one....

-Polaris


Its not a lie if it comes from a Bioware employee, see:

Mr Abrams, 4000EMS possible in SP , I managed it
Casey Hudson: the "A,B or C ending".
Jessica Merizan: I'm sorry man your just not my type, stop sending me items of your clothin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Never mind, move along

Modifié par coolbeans, 27 avril 2012 - 01:09 .


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coolbeans wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Kub666 wrote...

I can see that the tactic of hiding this issue in technical forum and splitting the thread in three worked - this thread has a lot less traction than the original one.


Of course it has.  This is the forum ghetto, the audience has been isolated by platform and BW clearly wants the problem to go away.  Has Priestly explained yet how a lie isn't a lie yet?  I would love to hear that one....

-Polaris


Its not a lie if it comes from a Bioware employee, see:

Mr Abrams, 4000EMS possible in SP , I managed it
Casey Hudson: the "A,B or C ending".
Jessica Merizan: I'm sorry man your just not my type, stop sending me items of your clothin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Never mind, move along



Bwahahaha! :o

I had a good laugh at that, thanks.  Then I read your sig and laughed some more, lol.

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devSin wrote...

Gtacatalina wrote...

Do you know if anyone has got the 3,750EMS on single player alone?

I've never seen anybody post visual proof or anything (or I don't remember it).

But the calculated maximum so far is 7,550 assets, which should give you enough EMS for the achievement (assuming 7,500 actually is the cutoff).


Yeah I haven't found anything official about the cut off points for these achievements either.

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Ravennus wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Kub666 wrote...

I can see that the tactic of hiding this issue in technical forum and splitting the thread in three worked - this thread has a lot less traction than the original one.


Of course it has.  This is the forum ghetto, the audience has been isolated by platform and BW clearly wants the problem to go away.  Has Priestly explained yet how a lie isn't a lie yet?  I would love to hear that one....

-Polaris


Its not a lie if it comes from a Bioware employee, see:

Mr Abrams, 4000EMS possible in SP , I managed it
Casey Hudson: the "A,B or C ending".
Jessica Merizan: I'm sorry man your just not my type, stop sending me items of your clothin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Never mind
, move along



Bwahahaha! :o

I had a good laugh at that, thanks.  Then I read your sig and laughed some more, lol.


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@Kub666 Yep the tactic has worked unfortunately, and really I'm still waiting on an official sticky thread for this possible bug from Bioware, like they did with the face import issue on this forum! Image IPB

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 27 avril 2012 - 07:58 .


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Just checking in to see if there has been any movement on this issue.

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Daramatis wrote...

Just checking in to see if there has been any movement on this issue.


Thats a negative, this issue has been "biowared" :(

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coolbeans wrote...

Daramatis wrote...

Just checking in to see if there has been any movement on this issue.


Thats a negative, this issue has been "biowared" Image IPB

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Nothing yet !
I'm going to try and accumulate my stats and put them on here in a few days.

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Bioware LIED about this issue, was caught red-handed lying about the issue, and either can not or will not admit it, and thus they have tried to bury this issue by putting it in the forum ghettos.

-Polaris

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So... not much happening here, huh? :(

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Kub666 wrote...

So... not much happening here, huh? :(


Nothing is going to either.  Bioware will sit on it and tell us that they are 'looking into it' (if they say anything at all) on the assumption that most of the platforms will fix the problems themselves (it's trivially easy to fix on the PC...just adjust your war assets in your save or coalesced file), and then when enough DLC war assets are available they'll claim that they have "determined" that it can be done, and there is no problem, so go away.

-Polaris

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I'd like to believe this wasn't the plan all along, and the fact that Bioware is having so much difficulty counting how many war assets can be achieved in single player isn't just because they're stalling so they can get as many people to play MP as possible. But the longer this issue remains and the more they're seemingly trying to restrict topics discussing the problem, the more I'm starting to believe otherwise. They haven't even admitted the problem yet, they're just "looking into it".

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At this stage it is getting very hard to maintain a positive attitude. It's been weeks since this was raised and I find it hard to believe that if BW had assigned a tester to investigate this they wouldn't be done by now.

This is how MP damages SP, the time and resources devoted to post sales support will always be eaten up trying to iron out MP issues to the detriment of SP issues. Not out of malice but out of the fact that if MP isn't fixed it often plain doesn't work whereas issues like this effect only a minority of the SP community.

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Lalalandia wrote...

At this stage it is getting very hard to maintain a positive attitude. It's been weeks since this was raised and I find it hard to believe that if BW had assigned a tester to investigate this they wouldn't be done by now.

This is how MP damages SP, the time and resources devoted to post sales support will always be eaten up trying to iron out MP issues to the detriment of SP issues. Not out of malice but out of the fact that if MP isn't fixed it often plain doesn't work whereas issues like this effect only a minority of the SP community.


I'm finding it hard to keep positive to. I really wish they had released ME3 as single player only!

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-Draikin- wrote...

I'd like to believe this wasn't the plan all along, and the fact that Bioware is having so much difficulty counting how many war assets can be achieved in single player isn't just because they're stalling so they can get as many people to play MP as possible. But the longer this issue remains and the more they're seemingly trying to restrict topics discussing the problem, the more I'm starting to believe otherwise. They haven't even admitted the problem yet, they're just "looking into it".


I'm hoping that isn't the case alsoImage IPB

Chris Priestly did say that Mike Gamble was looking into it Image IPBand they seem to be looking along the lines that it is a bug!

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Gtacatalina wrote...

-Draikin- wrote...

I'd like to believe this wasn't the plan all along, and the fact that Bioware is having so much difficulty counting how many war assets can be achieved in single player isn't just because they're stalling so they can get as many people to play MP as possible. But the longer this issue remains and the more they're seemingly trying to restrict topics discussing the problem, the more I'm starting to believe otherwise. They haven't even admitted the problem yet, they're just "looking into it".


I'm hoping that isn't the case alsoImage IPB

Chris Priestly did say that Mike Gamble was looking into it Image IPBand they seem to be looking along the lines that it is a bug!


Actually Chris Priestly said "Someone else mentioned Mike Gamble was looking into it" No admission of a problem from a bioware source.

THen LOCKDOWN

Come the **** on Chris a single tweet reply to an individual is not the way to announce you're looking into an issue, neither is locking down a 70+ thread full of civil discussion and banishing the people with the issue to the tech forums.  It took over a month of that thread being on the 1st page before official comment appeared in it and the only official comment was LOCKDOWN.

The removal of the sticky and the repeated attempts to sweep this under the rug are just tactics to silence those with the issue.

Sadly with EA's new direction of "Everything online and interconnected through 3rd party apps etc" I think we can say goodbye to our gripping single player storys, with more and more of the content locked out if we don't jump through the hoops.

I wonder what the next drive will be, spam your friends social networking pages to get rewards in game, oh wait thats something they've done already :?

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coolbeans wrote...
Sadly with EA's new direction of "Everything online and interconnected through 3rd party apps etc" I think we can say goodbye to our gripping single player storys, with more and more of the content locked out if we don't jump through the hoops.


Yeah, looks like it :(. Thank god for Valve, Bethesda and Eidos Montreal. 

It is just the bad side of video games going full mainstream - they have to cater to, how to say it, more common folk, with little technical aptitude and attention span of a goldfish, because the money is clearly there. Thankfully the good developers found the workaround for this and crowdfund their games on Kickstarter, but these are relatively small projects, unfortunately.

The old law of economy says that worse product always pushes the better product out of the market.

But, more on the topic - here comes another week of nothing!

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Well for what it's worth here goes.....

This is an imported Character from ME1(+BDTS dlc, I did all side missions), ME2(+all dlc, again all side missions). I did all side missions in ME3 + Ashes dlc.


ALIEN: 969
Terminus Fleet 200
Rachni Workers 100
Volus Dreadnought Kwanu 50
Shadow Broker Support Team 40
Spectre Unit 40
Volus Bombing Fleet 75
Hanar & Drell Forces 58
Batarian Fleet 155
Citadel Defense Force 186

ALLIANCE:1555

Alliance Engineering Corps 290
103rd Marine Division 200
Alliance 1st Fleet 103
Alliance 3rd Fleet 101
Kahlee Sanders 30
Jack 25
Arcturus 1st Division 60
Alliance Spec Ops Team Data 35
Alliance Cruiser Shanghai 40
Alliance Naval Explor Flotilla 75
Communications Array 50
Alliance 6th Fleet 90
Rogue Fighter Pilots 20
Alliance 5th Fleet 101
Kasumi Goto 25
Zaeed Massoni 25
Diana Allers 5
Alliance Frigate N SR-2 115
Mineral Resources 25
Zhu’s Hope Colonists 30
Khalisah Bint Sinan Al-Jibini 10
Eden Prime Support 100
 
ASARI: 668

Asari Science Team 90
Asari 2nd Fleet 123
Asari 6th Fleet 130
The Destiny Ascension 70
Samara 25
Dr Jelize 25
Armali Sniper Unit 30
Serrice Guard 30
Asari Cruiser Nefrane 30
Asari Research Shipe 35
Asari Cruiser Cybaen 30
Asari Engineers 30

EX Cerberus: 250

Cerberus Research Data 50
Advanced Fighter Squadron 75
Ex Cerberus Scientists 25
Dr Brynn Cole 25
Dr Gavin Archer 25
Jacob Taylor 25
Miranda Lawson 25

CRUCIBLE: 755
Advance Starship Fuel 75
Javelin Missile Launcher 50
Volus Fabrications Unit 45
Volus Engineering Team 50
Interferometric Array 45
Exo Geni Scientists 40
Prothean Data Files 75
Shadow Broker Starship Tech 50
Terminus Freighters 30
Element Zero Converter 50
Emergency Fuel Pods 30
Advanced Power Relays 50
Haptic Optic Array 50
Reaper Heart 100
Optimal Eezo Capacitor 15


GETH: 815

Geth Corps 305
Geth Fleet 450
Geth Prime Platoon 60

KROGAN: 870

Urdnot Wrex 30
Grunt 25
Krogan 1st Division 50
Aralakh Company 50
Krogan Clans 340
Clan Urdnot 300
Krogan Mercenaries 75

TURIAN: 633

Turian 7th Flotilla 40
Turian 6th Fleet 143
Turian 43rd Marine Division 90
Turian 7th Fleet 135
Turian Blackwatch 75
Turian Engineering Corps 110
Turian Spec Ops Team 40

SALARIAN: 153

Major Kirrahe 20
Salarian 3rd Fleet 133

QUARIAN: 490

Admiral Daro’Xen 25
Admiral Zaal’Koris 25
Quarian Civilian Fleet 150
Quarian Heavy Fleet 140
Quarian Patrol Fleet 150


Total Military Strength 7158
Readiness Rating 50%
Effective Military Strength 3579

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 30 avril 2012 - 07:43 .


#45
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Here's some extra info, if any devs are looking!


ME1
 
Saved Kaidan on Virmire
Saved Rachni Queen
Wrex Survives
Saved The Council
Captain Anderson joins Council
Feros Colony Saved
 
 
ME2
 
Completed All Loyalty Missions (Kusumi+Zaeed)
Saved Genophage Data
Heretics are Rewritten
Destroyed The Collector Base
All Squad Mates Survive
Arrival-Batarian World Destroyed
Liara Shadow Broker
Overlord-Saved Gavin, Sent David to Grissom

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Fair play Gtacatalina, that's fairly close to theoretical maximum (I ended up w/3400ish myself). If this is useful to any devs, leave a note and I'll fire up my own save to report the exactly how far off 4000 I am.

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I found an interesting article from the Financial Post that's related to our issue.

The author talks about the new EA mission to implement "online universes" in all it's games, and specifically mentions ME3's Galaxy at War system.

In that part of the article, he says, "It isn’t necessarily about doing all of those secondary things to get
the best results, but the game certainly implies that it is."

I thought I should let him know that, in fact, it's not just implied but actually true.

Please read the article for my actual comment, as I'm not sure there may be issues with me posting it here.
I don't think so... but it's better to be safe than sor...er.. banned.  *sigh*

(Don't worry, I don't rage or anything)

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Ravennus wrote...

I found an interesting article from the Financial Post that's related to our issue.

The author talks about the new EA mission to implement "online universes" in all it's games, and specifically mentions ME3's Galaxy at War system.

In that part of the article, he says, "It isn’t necessarily about doing all of those secondary things to get
the best results, but the game certainly implies that it is."

I thought I should let him know that, in fact, it's not just implied but actually true.

Please read the article for my actual comment, as I'm not sure there may be issues with me posting it here.
I don't think so... but it's better to be safe than sor...er.. banned.  *sigh*

(Don't worry, I don't rage or anything)



That is an interesting article!

It's a shame if all their games are going down this route. I hate multiplayer, MMO's, I've tried. Well it looks like I'll be steering clear of these future games then!
I just want my single player, rpg game backImage IPB

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I only play BW games for the amazing story telling and single player content. It's extreamly dissapointing that you are forced into MP to achive 4k+ EMS. Im a bit above 3.6k on my imported ME1 + ME2 saves.

If I want proper MP there are tons of options that are light years ahead of ME3 - stick to the amazing SP experience you are best at and stop forcing mediocre MP on us - honestly who wants to spend time on ME3 MP when that time can be spent on so much better action MP games.

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It should definetly be possible for us to reach 4000 EMS without playing MP. While MP is fun for some time, I don't want to play MP everytime before I start the final mission of the SP campaign on a new playthrough.

Also what, if MP servers will be shut down in a few years or no one is playing ME3 MP in a few years? If I want to play ME3 again in some years but MP is not available anymore, I will not be able to reach the best possible ending.

Should definetly be looked into, so that we can reach 4000 EMS without playing MP.