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[Eain]

Does anyone else have the same problem I'm having? Even beyond the other problems with the ending, I just do not want to do anything the Catalyst offers me. As a result, I never choose and just turn the game off.

I prefer to let the choice remain unmade, because no matter what I do I end up having to betray something about my Shepard or the people in the galaxy. I don't want to do that, at all.

I allowed the Geth sentience, so I simply won't destroy them, period.

I killed the Illusive Man because I did not believe in controlling the Reapers, and I still don't. It's an option that came out of left field anyway, and the only reason that console seems to be there is because there is a plot character that wants to do it. How convenient. Why should controlling them be an option at all? Why couldn't TIM just have been delusional? It makes no sense.

I'm not gonna commit to synthesis either. In its essence synthesis attempts to speak to transhuman themes, but as it stands its just forced rape of the galaxy. Why would Shepard work to defeat the Reapers the entire series only to end up making the people she fought to protect part of the Reapers' species, as that appears to be why the Reapers suddenly lose interest and leave Earth.

I never choose an ending because no matter what I choose it's horrible. None of the endings have any redeeming factors. I always play up to the end of Rannoch because up until that point the game still makes sense. Sort of. Beyond that I prefer to just leave it up to the imagination.

Shepard gathered the fleets and kicked Reaper ass.

The end. 

[hosen17]

Most of us here on the forum, I'd assume.

[Eain]

hosen17 wrote...

Most of us here on the forum, I'd assume.

Well, yeah. But I often see people still talk about the specifics of each ending as though there's some merit to it. I wonder how many people there are that hate the ending but still begrudgingly pick a colour vs people that hate the ending and therefore shut off the game before it even gets there.

[nitefyre410]

The only way to beat The Catalyst is to reject his solution... all three options are his solutions, not ours.

I say... stand and fight.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 25 avril 2012 - 12:13 .

[Samtheman63]

Nothing wrong with destroy

[dreman9999]

Why do you think it as give that way? Most people feel that it's wrong because your playing god....But the thing is that you did not come up with the options, the Star child did. He is the one playing god.

And another thing, is there any proof that anything he says is true?

[GLR-0053]

It feels a lot like Kindergarten where you have to pick one crayon to doodle.

[Vigil_N7]

None of the endings have redeeming factors? How about the cycle being broken once and for all? That is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE factor, regardless of what happens with the mass relays.

I don't understand why people think right now its better to not use the catalyst and let the allied fleets get wiped out and allowing the reapers to win. g

If Shepard does not use the catalyst, then the sacrifices and deaths of Mordin/Ashley/Kaidan/Legion/Anderson/Thane/Kirrahe/Kal'Reegar/MILLIONS others, effectively means nothing because Shepard is indecisive and is unwilling to make a galaxy altering decision when it counts.

Who knows how the three choices will alter the galaxy's future, but surely giving organics/synthetics a CHANCE at a NEW future, a future that is free of the reapers, is superior than condemning quite possibly trillions of organics to the same fate thousands upon thousands of civilizations had faced before.

[Eain]

Samtheman63 wrote...

Nothing wrong with destroy

Yeah, I disagree. I just feel like they threw the Geth in there to keep it from being the obvious pick. But that immediately makes it an impossible pick, thereby placing me in deadlock. I'm not going to commit genocide on a species I literally just gave sentience. No. It's an obvious pick in a playthrough where you manage to secure only Quarian aid, but beyond that... just no.

Modifié par Eain, 25 avril 2012 - 12:23 .

[Catroi]

I took fourth option:
Turn Xbox down and throw the tv out of the window...

[Eain]

Catroi wrote...

I took fourth option:
Turn Xbox down and throw the tv out of the window...

I like my TV a bit too much for that

Modifié par Eain, 25 avril 2012 - 12:23 .

[Eain]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

None of the endings have redeeming factors? How about the cycle being broken once and for all? That is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE factor, regardless of what happens with the mass relays.

I don't understand why people think right now its better to not use the catalyst and let the allied fleets get wiped out and allowing the reapers to win. g

If Shepard does not use the catalyst, then the sacrifices and deaths of Mordin/Ashley/Kaidan/Legion/Anderson/Thane/Kirrahe/Kal'Reegar/MILLIONS others, effectively means nothing because Shepard is indecisive and is unwilling to make a galaxy altering decision when it counts.

Who knows how the three choices will alter the galaxy's future, but surely giving organics/synthetics a CHANCE at a NEW future, a future that is free of the reapers, is superior than condemning quite possibly trillions of organics to the same fate thousands upon thousands of civilizations had faced before.

You are right, which is why I quit playing after Rannoch, maybe Thessia. There's just no point in having that whole battle start in the first place. Better to headcanon it than let the game play out, IMO.

[blaidfiste]

Not to mention the tacked on "btw the mass relays get destroyed no matter what."

[Samtheman63]

Eain wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

Nothing wrong with destroy

Yeah, I disagree. I just feel like they threw the Geth in there to keep it from being the obvious pick. But that immediately makes it an impossible pick, thereby placing me in deadlock. I'm not going to commit genocide on a species I literally just gave sentience. No. It's an obvious pick in a playthrough where you manage to secure only Quarian aid, but beyond that... just no.

Geth are machines, they're not even alive.  I have no issuses with sacrificing them to end the reaper threat

[Eain]

Samtheman63 wrote...

Eain wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

Nothing wrong with destroy

Yeah, I disagree. I just feel like they threw the Geth in there to keep it from being the obvious pick. But that immediately makes it an impossible pick, thereby placing me in deadlock. I'm not going to commit genocide on a species I literally just gave sentience. No. It's an obvious pick in a playthrough where you manage to secure only Quarian aid, but beyond that... just no.

Geth are machines, they're not even alive.  I have no issuses with sacrificing them to end the reaper threat

I object to that sort of reasoning, sorry. Humans are machines too, just made of a different material. If a thing is sentient it's sentient.

Modifié par Eain, 25 avril 2012 - 12:38 .

[dreman9999]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

None of the endings have redeeming factors? How about the cycle being broken once and for all? That is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE factor, regardless of what happens with the mass relays.

I don't understand why people think right now its better to not use the catalyst and let the allied fleets get wiped out and allowing the reapers to win. g

If Shepard does not use the catalyst, then the sacrifices and deaths of Mordin/Ashley/Kaidan/Legion/Anderson/Thane/Kirrahe/Kal'Reegar/MILLIONS others, effectively means nothing because Shepard is indecisive and is unwilling to make a galaxy altering decision when it counts.

Who knows how the three choices will alter the galaxy's future, but surely giving organics/synthetics a CHANCE at a NEW future, a future that is free of the reapers, is superior than condemning quite possibly trillions of organics to the same fate thousands upon thousands of civilizations had faced before.

.....Only the destory choice brakes the cycle...And is the the star child telling the truth?

[Samtheman63]

lol, pretty sure I'm not a machine.

[Samtheman63]

dreman9999 wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

None of the endings have redeeming factors? How about the cycle being broken once and for all? That is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE factor, regardless of what happens with the mass relays.

I don't understand why people think right now its better to not use the catalyst and let the allied fleets get wiped out and allowing the reapers to win. g

If Shepard does not use the catalyst, then the sacrifices and deaths of Mordin/Ashley/Kaidan/Legion/Anderson/Thane/Kirrahe/Kal'Reegar/MILLIONS others, effectively means nothing because Shepard is indecisive and is unwilling to make a galaxy altering decision when it counts.

Who knows how the three choices will alter the galaxy's future, but surely giving organics/synthetics a CHANCE at a NEW future, a future that is free of the reapers, is superior than condemning quite possibly trillions of organics to the same fate thousands upon thousands of civilizations had faced before.

.....Only the destory choice brakes the cycle...And is the the star child telling the truth?

They all break the cycle

[dreman9999]

Samtheman63 wrote...

Eain wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

Nothing wrong with destroy

Yeah, I disagree. I just feel like they threw the Geth in there to keep it from being the obvious pick. But that immediately makes it an impossible pick, thereby placing me in deadlock. I'm not going to commit genocide on a species I literally just gave sentience. No. It's an obvious pick in a playthrough where you manage to secure only Quarian aid, but beyond that... just no.

Geth are machines, they're not even alive.  I have no issuses with sacrificing them to end the reaper threat

Define what Alive means and then I can agree with you. If not then, then it just you taking about something you don't understand.

[Eain]

Samtheman63 wrote...

lol, pretty sure I'm not a machine.

Why aren't you? Everything you feel, want and think is determined by chemical processes in your brain. Information is transmitted across synapses and the strength of these neural connections decides how intelligent you are. We are made of parts that make us stop functioning if they break. if our heart stops we die. If our brain stops we become a lifeless shell. If our legs break we can't walk. Just how are we any different?

[Ultra Prism]

Yeah I played ME 6 times .... and first three times with my canon shepard (male, paragon, Liara romanced all games) ... tried all choices ... didnt give any closure of whatsoever .... the next 3 times , were renegade male shep, paragon femshep and paragon male sheep (romanced ash) .. the last three, I just did until prority earth ... coz the endings dont any of my shepards resolution

[blauwvis]

I wonder if they considered adding an option for Shepard to say, "Yeah, screw this, I'm not picking anything," and then just kicking back and watching as the allied fleet is destroyed and organic civilization is snuffed out yet again.* But, as with the "Shepard dies" ME2 end, why would anyone pick that aside from the lulz? Surely letting trillions upon trillions of beings die because Shep didn't want to get his/her hands dirty would be the ultimate **** move?

*Apparently if you just stand around on the Crucible for long enough, you'll get a Critical Mission Failure with the text "Reapers destroyed the Crucible"... so I guess you could say that that ending is available.

Modifié par blauwvis, 25 avril 2012 - 12:43 .

[StrelokCH]

I really like the Geth, a lot. I probably would romance Legion if possible, just because he's so awesome. But since my Shep has always been a "whatever it takes" kind of Renegade, I actually liked the red ending. I still hate the plot holes (i.e. my squad beeing on the Normandy and all that), but bombing everyone back to the stone age just to kill off my enemy fit my Shep so very much.

[The Angry One]

Samtheman63 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

None of the endings have redeeming factors? How about the cycle being broken once and for all? That is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE factor, regardless of what happens with the mass relays.

I don't understand why people think right now its better to not use the catalyst and let the allied fleets get wiped out and allowing the reapers to win. g

If Shepard does not use the catalyst, then the sacrifices and deaths of Mordin/Ashley/Kaidan/Legion/Anderson/Thane/Kirrahe/Kal'Reegar/MILLIONS others, effectively means nothing because Shepard is indecisive and is unwilling to make a galaxy altering decision when it counts.

Who knows how the three choices will alter the galaxy's future, but surely giving organics/synthetics a CHANCE at a NEW future, a future that is free of the reapers, is superior than condemning quite possibly trillions of organics to the same fate thousands upon thousands of civilizations had faced before.

.....Only the destory choice brakes the cycle...And is the the star child telling the truth?

They all break the cycle

Control is too vague to determine what happens. Synthesis changes absolutely nothing.

[Samtheman63]

Being alive means you eventually die, machines don't die they are always destroyed/shutdown/broke in one way or another