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[WaffleCrab]

I for one must admit, the effect has been more negative than positive. Despite few great moments and bits of news and all the great (albeit nearly failed raptor) multiplayer events, and the great SP campaign(right untill the last moments and stupid scenes where the ME3 completely ignores existing lore). The ME3 patches have broken some things maybe not create new glitches all the time(those too happened), And the fact how easy it is to cheat in multiplayer that you start seeing them alot in the PuG games too Is disturbing. And myriad of other things that just rub me the wrong way as a customer(especially broken promises/false pretenses in marketing). That all combined with how BW has handled allthings ME3 on and off forums is from time to time disgusting trampling on customers.

All those above have made me to rethink my view on ME as a franchise and wether or not i will be buying them or BW games for that matter at all anymore. I havent given up on them completely yet. but i will definetly decrease the amount of money i will be spending on their games from now on, I will no longer be pre ordering them, instead i will make sure to buy em at retail for dirty cheap month or 2 after release.

How have your views changed on the franchise or BW? Let us others know

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Modifié par WaffleCrab, 25 avril 2012 - 04:51 .

[WaffleCrab]

slyguy200 wrote...

yes it has affected my view on BW...

;D you chose the path of neutrality?

[kookie28]

A little yeah.

I can feel a lockdown coming.

[Melra]

Not really, only towards Tali.

[Kushan101]

I've learned not to trust a game to be good just because the developer made good games in the past.

I've definitely learned not to trust professional critics. Go to metacritic and look at the "professional" reviews and the user reviews, you'll notice a massive difference.

Don't believe a developer when they tell you that "your opinion matters and we are listening" until they actually prove it.

[MrSquits]

I was braced for disappointment regarding ME3 after how drastically DA2 was changed from DA:O. Don't get me wrong; DA2 is one of the most fun games I've ever played, but it felt like a step backwards compared to DA:O.

With all this that's happened with ME3, I don't hold much hope for any future Bioware or EA game. I'm sure I'll look at previews of future Dragon Age and Mass Effect games, but they aren't something I'll be eager to play.

I think Bioware is moving away from the types of games I like. I really enjoyed DA:O and ME1, but looking at their sequels and other titles like Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning, it looks like the future of Bioware is Michael Bay-esque action at the expense of a well-rounded package.

[WaffleCrab]

kookie28 wrote...

A little yeah.

I can feel a lockdown coming.

why would they lock it down? Its related to the game franchise, and its not like i am bad mouthing them in the post.
I am just curious to see how bad people are taking it, like are there many who lost all faith in the franchise, or if they are just taking a cautious glance at everything mass effect from now on.

[WaffleCrab]

MrSquits wrote...

I was braced for disappointment regarding ME3 after how drastically DA2 was changed from DA:O. Don't get me wrong; DA2 is one of the most fun games I've ever played, but it felt like a step backwards compared to DA:O.

With all this that's happened with ME3, I don't hold much hope for any future Bioware or EA game. I'm sure I'll look at previews of future Dragon Age and Mass Effect games, but they aren't something I'll be eager to play.

I think Bioware is moving away from the types of games I like. I really enjoyed DA:O and ME1, but looking at their sequels and other titles like Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning, it looks like the future of Bioware is Michael Bay-esque action at the expense of a well-rounded package.

Yeah it is a bit frightening to see a franchise take steps towards a hollywood style cinematic and animated action sequences rather than a good game play or story :S

[7isMagic]

Kushan101 wrote...

I've learned not to trust a game to be good just because the developer made good games in the past.

I've definitely learned not to trust professional critics. Go to metacritic and look at the "professional" reviews and the user reviews, you'll notice a massive difference.

Don't believe a developer when they tell you that "your opinion matters and we are listening" until they actually prove it.

Bingo!  Agree with all points.

[BellatrixLugosi]

I've learned from these forums never to trust a user review for a game. Also learned that a ending is more important then the game itself. That and somehow this game is able to give more then half of its players PTSD.

[Asakawa]

definitely yes.

I'm only getting BW games from now on 3 months after the release, IF i get them. I was aiming for DA3, but i'm not so sure anymore. You can't trust what the developers themselves tell us about their own game. We all do remember that all magazines and interviews released one year ago talk about ME3 as a completely different game.

it's like reading about pepperoni pizza in the menu, ordering pepperoni pizza and then you get tuna. Tuna ain't bad. But you wanted pepperoni.

[Chris Priestly]

kookie28 wrote...

I can feel a lockdown coming.

Nope. Not unless people take this off topic. It is germaine to ME3.

To those who have had a negative expereince here (other posters, mods, me, whatever) what can be done to improve your experience here in the future?

[WaffleCrab]

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

I've learned from these forums never to trust a user review for a game. Also learned that a ending is more important then the game itself. That and somehow this game is able to give more then half of its players PTSD.

Lol. troll much but yeah, everyone has their own point of view  Also its not about the ending being more important, its about the ending leaving you in the dark in ME3 watering down all the decisions you made during the game into single ending and you are given no choice how things go from there, despite "your decisions being important". Hell i have played games with stupid endings before and still liked em, because they did not nullify everything you did before unlike ME3 did. I think thats the main problem with the ending. 

Just to name two games with a crap ending i still enjoyed playing as the ending, dispite being bad, did not slap you in the face with cast iron skillet; Ultima 8 and Thunderscape

Its the leaving in the dark part that gets people riled up about ME3 ending

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 25 avril 2012 - 05:10 .

[WaffleCrab]

Chris Priestly wrote...

kookie28 wrote...

I can feel a lockdown coming.

Nope. Not unless people take this off topic. It is germaine to ME3.

To those who have had a negative expereince here (other posters, mods, me, whatever) what can be done to improve your experience here in the future?

are you guys going to improve the internal search engine? as it can take hours upon hours to browse through all the posts if you want to avoid posting a thread about something that has already being posted in another thread. Makes people(me being part of the same group) kinda ignore the search function and slap a new thread.

Other things i have had negative experiences with are mainly in the game itself and/or the game servers. And how customer support is handling them, and how confusing the new ticket system is. But a more detailed internal search engine could do wonders

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 25 avril 2012 - 05:14 .

[AlanC9]

Well, the forums have made me realize that I don't actually think much of self-styled "RPG fans."

As for Bio and their games... nah, I feel about the same way towards them that I always have. Obvious strengths and obvious weaknesses, and since I like the strengths more than I dislike the weaknesses I like the games.

[ckriley]

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

I've learned from these forums never to trust a user review for a game. Also learned that a ending is more important then the game itself. That and somehow this game is able to give more then half of its players PTSD.

This is exactly how I feel.  I actually made a thread on this yesterday, but not surprisingly it was locked because this community couldn't control themselves and started bickering.  The ME3 forums have made me lose complete respect for the BW community.  After playing ME3, I can honestly say the posters here have zero credibility to me.

It's one thing to dislike a game.  It won't be everyone.  I get that.  But the sheer amount of hate and negativity was just way, way, way over the top.

[thunderhawk862002]

Well I decided to rent ME3 since I lacked the necessary funds at the time to buy it. I feel this is the best option that way you only spend a fraction of the money to play the game. If it's fantastic you can buy it later on. With ME3's streamlining of your decisions in the previous 2 games, I have little hope that DA3 would be any better. Especially since DA2 was streamlined as well.

So the forums and sites had little impact on my purchasing decision.  Although anything said by the developers will be taken with a dumptruck full of salt from now on.

Modifié par thunderhawk862002, 25 avril 2012 - 05:18 .

[BellatrixLugosi]

WaffleCrab wrote...

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

I've learned from these forums never to trust a user review for a game. Also learned that a ending is more important then the game itself. That and somehow this game is able to give more then half of its players PTSD.

Lol. troll much but yeah, everyone has their own point of view  Also its not about the ending being more important, its about the ending leaving you in the dark in ME3 watering down all the decisions you made during the game into single ending and you are given no choice how things go from there, despite "your decisions being important". Hell i have played games with stupid endings before and still liked em, because they did not nullify everything you did before unlike ME3 did. I think thats the main problem with the ending. 

Just to name two games with a crap ending i still enjoyed playing as the ending, dispite being bad, did not slap you in the face with cast iron skillet; Ultima 8 and Thunderscape

Its the leaving in the dark part that gets people riled up about ME3 ending

Sorry its what I learned from this forum and this game.  If Im going to look at metacritic, gamespot, amazon or anything video game related I'm not going to look at the user reviews.

And because of the singular focus been placed on the ending and the reaction taken, and how much the game has been judged because of it, it has shown me that a game's ending in trilogy's or epics is more important then the gameplay before.

And just the reaction itself has just shown me that a good portion of the players are acting if this ending is traumatic to their mental health. 

If my my opinions and perceptions are trolling then you can go screw yourself

[Fireblader70]

Chris Priestly wrote...

kookie28 wrote...

I can feel a lockdown coming.

Nope. Not unless people take this off topic. It is germaine to ME3.

To those who have had a negative expereince here (other posters, mods, me, whatever) what can be done to improve your experience here in the future?

Well, a lot of the negative posts seem to stem from fan outrage. Interpret that as you wish, but I will say that when humans are honest with one another, it generally creates a more positive environment.

But Chris... you're doing good, in my opinion. Not that you care, but there you go

[fchopin]

Chris Priestly wrote...

To those who have had a negative expereince here (other posters, mods, me, whatever) what can be done to improve your experience here in the future?

Where can we post suggestions?

[dekkerd]

Yeah, it has. DA3 is now firmly in the gamefly category. Yes, I'm aware it's a different team. But, it's EA, and what happened with ME3 and the offical reaction to major bugs in sp have made me wary.

[WaffleCrab]

ckriley wrote...

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

I've learned from these forums never to trust a user review for a game. Also learned that a ending is more important then the game itself. That and somehow this game is able to give more then half of its players PTSD.

This is exactly how I feel.  I actually made a thread on this yesterday, but not surprisingly it was locked because this community couldn't control themselves and started bickering.  The ME3 forums have made me lose complete respect for the BW community.  After playing ME3, I can honestly say the posters here have zero credibility to me.

It's one thing to dislike a game.  It won't be everyone.  I get that.  But the sheer amount of hate and negativity was just way, way, way over the top.

Well people come and vent on the forums, i know i did that a couple of times already. As there is no other outlet for us consumers to complain about the possible faults/glitches/cheating in the game. Considering the origin report system is pure carbage, when playing ME3 your forced to alt tab to desktop, open your browser and wade through the EA help center to file a cheating report. and if the cheater has a complex name, chances are you dont remember it (average people remember 5-7 mixed numbers/symbols with a glance) and the cheater in question realizes whats going on when he sees an afk guy. and leaves or closes the game.(funny fact, EA finlands page isnt shown properly with origins overlay web browser.