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[Brony4LIFE]

Brony4LIFE wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

kookie28 wrote...

I can feel a lockdown coming.

Nope. Not unless people take this off topic. It is germaine to ME3.

To those who have had a negative expereince here (other posters, mods, me, whatever) what can be done to improve your experience here in the future?

Thank you for asking, Mr. Priestly. I would ask that you get rid of that emoticon with the angry-devil face. The emoticon may seem benign to your lockdown posts, and I don't think anyone likes seeing it when you lockdown threads. I feel that if you replace the emoticon or remove it altogether, people will be less instigative to abuse the forums. The emoticon is certainly not neccesary to someone in your position, and it's also not in the least amount professional.

Let's see if I can remove it for you. I think I just did!

[WaffleCrab]

tMc Tallgeese wrote...

I've learned that this game forum has become a cesspool of hatred for a beloved series. Many of you are likely to never have played the game, but Chromehounds did have a fairly active forum that spent much of its threads actually helping other players and discussing the game rather than finding 1,000,000 + things they did not like about it. This forum was meant for players to come together and discuss an incredible science fiction series and all of the trappings therein. What my rambling mind is trying to put out there is that I've lost my desire to participate as a member of a community that does nothing but bicker and begrudge the company that brought them an amazing epic like Mass Effect. Is the game perfect? No. If the company bent over backwards to appease you, many of you would continue to call them spineless. I'm glad they're standing by their people and the ending that was made. In closing, I'd like to offer BioWare my sincere thanks for giving me a journey like Mass Effect.

Look at all the promises they did not fill with ME3, and you would understand.

P.S. Gundam Wing FTW

[RukiaKuchki]

I loved ME3 and the ending left me feeling gutted. Not because I hated it, but because I was sure there was going to be a happy ending for Shepherd, and there wasn't (brave move IMO). I signed into these forums for the first time after I'd finished the game because I wanted to talk about it and find out more about other peoples' experience. What I found ranged from vague criticism to borderline psychosis. The internet is what it is, crammed with people who in real life are quite normal and controlled but once in a nameless/faceless forum become self-important, rude and single minded. That's fine, we all accept that happens on the web and we are all free to leave. But, even when people try to start a genuine dialogue here, it is constantly high jacked and so many conversations descend into tedious comments regarding the ending that amount to little more than 'You don't have the same opinion as me so you are a troll'. I understand the passion people feel and their need to gain acceptance from the wider community for their feelings, but I don't understand the almost pathological need to ruin other people's dialogue and attempt to ruin the ME experience for me. Overall, despite the extreme negativity, these forums have actually made me more passionate about ME3 and more willing to defend the game. I think that if it was a more positive place, I probably wouldn't post half as much as I do.

[Sinnerous]

Don't be surprised if BioWare falls silent for a long time due to all negative feedback and E.A. Being upset. Aside for any already announced releases coming from BioWare. I'm sure E.A. Being the evil empire of the gaming franchise, has made their statements of disappointments to BioWare personally. I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare went on a trip and never came back. :/

[ttchip]

That's quite the silly question. Everything Bioware does affects my attitude towards them and the franchise. It might be on a subconscious level - but it does.

Other than that? Here's my personal summary: I liked ME3 overall as an experience as long as I don't go too in depth with it (likely to be affected by my positive experience with previous parts of the trilogy). That's when even a person such as myself - I usually don't specifically look for errors - discovers aspects, that just feel lazy, rushed (those are the words I'd use to describe it) or whatever the hell you want to call it. The more you dive into the game, the worse it gets. It starts with things like silly or missing animations (*mark for spoilers* Take the sequence when Shep is limping as an example. You cannot look down. This makes you unable to see the animation for him/her walking while being severely injured - it's nothing major, it just doesn't feel like an elegant solution to technical difficulties/lack of time/ressources, that caused this animation to be absent), continues with weird mission design and the lack of variety (mainly for non-priority missions) and ends with the mess, that is the ending. I'm not upset about the ending in itself, I'm just not indifferent enough about it and the franchise to not see the problems with it.

I could add many other things to add to that list, that basically says one thing: Take your time with the games you create or use said time better. ME3 is an okay-ish game (mediocre << okay-ish < good << awesome) if played hyper-consciously and the customers don't need more okay-ish games. I'm more likely hesitate or refrain from buying a Bioware product now.

Modifié par ttchip, 25 avril 2012 - 07:57 .

[wesr]

I'm not going to preorder or buy any BW games without waiting to see what gamers have to say. I've never listened to pro reviewers for games or movies as they're always paid off.

[ZombieKiller218]

No they have not. I will read other posts and comments to get a feel for what others think but I will form my own opinions in regards to the ME franchise as a whole and Bioware itself.

On that note as far as developer reaction to public feedback Bioware is among the better companies in the industry and I feel that people are attacking them far too harshly when only two months have passed since the release of the game. I can't even imagine other studios, particularly those under the activision label, even bothering to respond to fan feedback so I think Bioware deserves some credit on that note.

[Luvinn]

DA2 had already changed the way i look at Bioware as a company. It definitely affected my attitude toward any future Dragon Age games, as I will never pre-order DA3. But I figured ME3 would be a sure hit. Guess I was wrong. But not to worry, as since i wont be buying DA3, there isn't a Bioware game that I'll buy for years to come.

[julio77777]

Having been more or less disappointed with their last three games, i'm not pre-ordering anymore. But if they make a good game I will buy it, no matter what they did or didn't do before.

[Foryou]

Nope just changed my feelings for the active community

[WaffleCrab]

Foryou wrote...

Nope just changed my feelings for the active community

and apparently flipped on the switch in your head where you generalize every me3 fan and forum user under same category?

[Dude_in_the_Room]

The reaction towards Bioware and ME3 from "lots" of gamers has greatly effected my respect for the gaming community....in a negative way.

If you've seen any of my posts you know what I"m talking about since I've complained about it more than once.

All in all.....some of what has happened is quite pathetic....and no, it's not mainly the death threats etc.  That sort of thing is in a league of it's own.

[frostajulie]

I will never preorder a Bioware game again and I will wait several weeks before purchasing it and even then think long and hard about it since they really don't believe in their work enough to finish it decently in keeping with the lore and the story they themselves have created.

[Almighty_Hoogs]

tMc Tallgeese wrote...

I've learned that this game forum has become a cesspool of hatred for a beloved series. Many of you are likely to never have played the game, but Chromehounds did have a fairly active forum that spent much of its threads actually helping other players and discussing the game rather than finding 1,000,000 + things they did not like about it. This forum was meant for players to come together and discuss an incredible science fiction series and all of the trappings therein. What my rambling mind is trying to put out there is that I've lost my desire to participate as a member of a community that does nothing but bicker and begrudge the company that brought them an amazing epic like Mass Effect. Is the game perfect? No. If the company bent over backwards to appease you, many of you would continue to call them spineless. I'm glad they're standing by their people and the ending that was made. In closing, I'd like to offer BioWare my sincere thanks for giving me a journey like Mass Effect.

I would like to say that i've been a fan of Bioware since Baldur's Gate. Also i would like to state that Bioware ,in turn, got me into the "Forgotten Realms" books. I just think the ending was bad. It didn't connect with therest of the game. That Shepard would argue with the star-kid that he made peace with the geth and quarian(spelling) 

[ShadowHawk141]

Has your experience with ME3/ME3 forums/ME3sites etc. affected your attitude..

Actualy it's Bioware itself that changed my attitude, I was bummed by the ending of Me3 but what bothers me most is Bioware's way of dealing with their fans, I felt patronised and not taken seriously (I can only speak for myself).
Above all the promises they made regarding the upcoming Me3 and the actual game contents that lacked those promises have made me distrust BW regarding future games and/or dlc.
No more pre-orders that's for sure......

Oh and Chris, get rid of that stupid emoticon, it's childish and provocative !!!!!
For the rest you and the other moderators are doing fine.....

[Dude_in_the_Room]

ShadowHawk141 wrote...

Oh and Chris, get rid of that stupid emoticon, it's childish and provocative !!!!!
For the rest you and the other moderators are doing fine.....

And those "LOCKDOWN" AND "END OF LINE" sigs or whatever.

We're not suppose to troll, yet the mods have those.  Really? Makes you wonder what kind of ppl enjoy such miniscule type of power.

[Almighty_Hoogs]

I've typed it once,i'll type it again.There's too much hate in both camps (pro and anti-enders)

[SalsaDMA]

As an answer to the thread title:

Both yes and no. I lost faith inthe company, but truth be said that already started with Arrival DLC and DA2. ME3 just put it in stone that the company lost it, compared to what they were previously.

As things are turning out with how products the company release turns out, I have more and more respect for the DA:O developer that decided not to continue with DA2 because of the shift in direction of the products and what the company was turning into. At present, I would have more respect for Bioware people that left the company and started out a new indie company, than those that stayed true to the new company policies.

[Kub666]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

The reaction towards Bioware and ME3 from "lots" of gamers has greatly effected my respect for the gaming community....in a negative way.

If you've seen any of my posts you know what I"m talking about since I've complained about it more than once.

All in all.....some of what has happened is quite pathetic....and no, it's not mainly the death threats etc.  That sort of thing is in a league of it's own.

The thing is what you think about gaming community does not matter. What matters is that this gaming community is buying products they sell. So if Bioware treats their customers like punks, they will just lose them in the future. 

Also, next time you buy a product that does not meet your expectations please do not complain or write reviews on Amazon to warn other potential customers, that would be so pathetic. 

This holier than thou attitude is really annoying.

[Divulse456]

I've been playing BioWare games since Baldur's Gate, and I've been a "die-hard" fan since KotoR.  I've become a bigger fan with the release of each Dragon Age and Mass Effect game. 

The forums have not changed how I feel about ME or BioWare at all.  That being said, the forums have made me thankful that I'm confident enough in my own convictions to set my own standards for what constitutes a good story and satisfying conclusion.  

ME3 met those standards: no troll can take them away or alter them, no internet forum can sweep me up in a stream of groupthink.

[bluewolv1970]

Chris Priestly wrote...

kookie28 wrote...

I can feel a lockdown coming.

Nope. Not unless people take this off topic. It is germaine to ME3.

To those who have had a negative expereince here (other posters, mods, me, whatever) what can be done to improve your experience here in the future?

perhaps treat the issues that are reported more seriously, such as the issue with not being able to get 4000+ ems in SP - NOT ONE PERSON repsonded in that thread to even acknowledge the problem for over a month and the only acknowledgement was to close the thread, problem unfixed - I was not aware that threads got closed when problems weret are not fixed yet...that suggests you simply want to ignore the problem since you are discouraging discussion...

[Icinix]

The forums and the sites of a game will never affect my enjoyment or ability to purchase games.

However, I recently picked up Jade Empire off of Steam for a bargain - and so far enjoying it and really seeing that BioWare spark that was lacking in DA2 and ME3.

I'll still probably get future RPGs from BioWare, it will just be used game purchases or on the cheap sales. The last two were misses, and $100 a pop on a miss just isn't worth it.

[Strad_37]

Chris Priestly wrote, "To those who have had a negative expereince here (other posters, mods, me, whatever) what can be done to improve your experience here in the future?" We've responded but not a single moderator has.

Are any moderators, particularly Chris, going to respond to our comments? You've asked for feedback and we've given it.

[TheRealJayDee]

Yes, it has.

Chris Priestly wrote...

To those who have had a negative expereince here (other posters, mods, me, whatever) what can be done to improve your experience here in the future?

Look at the way the "face import issue" thread was handled. Look at the way the 4000+EMS in SP thread was handled. Think about if this is the way these threads should have been handled. Maybe even read the threads and try a little communication. Or whatever.

[Il Divo]

To answer the OP's question: it hasn't. The only thing that affects my attitude towards future releases is the quality of their previous releases.