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[Seifer006]

UltmtBiz wrote...

If that dialogue was in the game it would have been better but not solved a lot the problems with the ending. At least it would have made SOME of the war assests mean something.

the interview does reveal a better quality game

[Seifer006]

Captain Arty wrote...

These cuts wouldn't have greatly affected the story, but they did affect the quality. As it is now, the ME2 characters were brought back for lame cameos and silly sidequests.

There have already been threads showing that virtually every ME2 character had important scenes cut, mostly from the final mission, not to mention there is substantial ME3-character dialogue also cut.

All of this is just more and more hard evidence that BioWare was rushed for release by EA, and they cut corners. Javik didn't make it to the disc, and should have. The ME2 characters were cut back. The entire final mission was simplified to running through a burned out street, and the War Assets became nothing more than a arbitrary number that makes no real difference. Casey and Mac made some decisions to exclude the writing team from the ending when pressed for time.

The game failed the story on many levels, and I haven't even gotten to the technical failures yet. The face importer still doesn't work, because apparently no designer took the time to actually match the 3d models to their ME2 counterparts. The only way that could have happened is if they were rushed and didn't have time to test it. There are many more cases of loading errors, game crashes, and texture popping than ME2. The list goes on an on....

My recommendation to others also still coming here in the hope of a miracle... Go play something else. There are lots of good games out there. It's what I've done, and although I'm still bitter about this, I'm much happier while playing Assassin's Creed.

well said

[Coder4Hire]

It didn't get cut. It's on the disc for the DLC they PLANNED to sell us ...

[crimzontearz]

why exactly should I support them in the future?

[Riion]

They couldn't have included the Geth Prime speech, that would've gone against their artistic ending.

[Drogonion]

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Modifié par Drogonion, 26 avril 2012 - 12:59 .

[Baron Of Doom]

Well wasn't there dialogue in ME2 that was present on the disc that they ended up using for Lair of the Shadow Broker? Makes me wonder if there will be a DLC that shows what everyone else is doing while Shepard is trying to get to the Citadel. Should've been on there all along, I'd have especially loved to see that dialogue with Jack.

[Whatshisnameagain]

At this point...I'm going to say that I'm not surprised.  All I can do at the moment is just wonder how much money one would have to pay in order to get the rest of the game.....

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DadeLeviathan wrote...
I want to say, however, that I am not
calling Hudson an idiot. I'm calling what he SAID idiotic. Very big
difference. Hudson is a very smart guy

After all that's transpired, I'm going to disagree with that...but that's just me.

[xsdob]

Coder4Hire wrote...

It didn't get cut. It's on the disc for the DLC they PLANNED to sell us ...

Funny how it's free than. Besides, what about the cut mass effect 2 stuff? When are they PLANNING to sell us that?

I demand all cut ME2 content on the disc restored! /edijoke.avi

Modifié par xsdob, 26 avril 2012 - 01:53 .

[Zix13]

xconceptualx wrote...

The Geth Prime dialogue wasn't cut from the game.

Huh? I haven't found it.

[OMTING52601]

None of this surprised me. I can't think of any game I own that doesn't have unused stuff on it. I think it's sort of par for the course. *shrug*

As far as being surprised by the content, well I actually read/heard all this stuff last month. And I gotta agree with peeps upthread: sticking this stuff in isn't going to make the game better. Not from my perspective, anyway. I'm not saying I wanted a restyling of the SM mission, but I did actually want a game ending boss fight and then roll to Shep - dead and being honored for his/her sacrifice, banged up receiving his/her second Star of Terra, or crawling from the flames (a bit like ME 1 maybe, LOL) to be embraced by LI and crew.

That's not what is going to happen and without that, IMO FWIW, there's no way to salvage the game. Then again, I really get the feeling BW isn't too worried about it anyway. They've made what they've made, folks are still playing MP, so it is what it is. No hard feelings on my end or anything, only sharing my perception.

Modifié par OMTING52601, 26 avril 2012 - 02:18 .

[Stevebo]

If that interview is true, then I'm very sad at where the gaming industry is (as far as Bioware)

Those two writers that took it upon themselves to create an ending that didn't have "gamers" in mind really don't care at all, and why should they? They got the game out, packaged and sold; time to move on!

The funny thing is they can get away with it. People complaining will only be labeled as entitled and told "It's just a game!" but fact is it's really not just games anymore. Gaming is a huge industry now and companies like EA are trying to cut costs and quality in favor of a "slap a franchised name on it and they'll buy it! haha" and then of course there are the game reviewers who tow the line because one negative review could mean being ostracised. So they promote the game by telling everyone how great is it no matter what.

Hell, some of these Game review sites or people even have the nerve to scold unhappy gamers and tell them to suck it up (so to speak)

Very sad. Really lost respect for Bioware as a developer and their lack of really giving a crap about the people that have kept them in business all these years.

[Hudathan]

Dialogue is the easiest thing to produce for a game. Just because they didn't follow up on certain scenes doesn't mean that content was cut. Does anyone actually believe that 100% of ideas make their way into every film/game/TV show?

[wolfstanus]

Member Kashmir speach etc being on the me2 disc? Probably the same I seem to remember bioware saying "keep your saves" "you would if you knew what we where planning" etc and this was well before the ec was announced.

[x5kevleo]

Hey guys, Do you think we are gonna see this stuff in the Extended cut?

[wolfstanus]

Probably.

[GreenDragon37]

Dammit, BioWare! Every day I lose more and more respect for you. This... hurts me.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 26 avril 2012 - 02:49 .

[DarthSyphilis59]

Its like the train wreck just keeps running into other train wrecks and is making its way towards a nuclear power plant that is about to go into meltdown..........

[wolfstanus]

Or maybe you lot are overreacting... Things get cut. Gtaiv had nudity etc cut.

[feliciano2040]

You know guys, things DO get cut, we shouldn't point fingers at anyone if we don't know why this was even cut.

[locsphere]

Probably didn't want a video game to be too video gamey...

[Jurgwug]

I'm a little sad that it was cut, because it would have made the Earth mission much more enjoyable but I'm not really upset about it at all. Besides, it just would have made the ending a little worse, no?

[cachx]

Velocithon wrote...

cachx wrote...
*nested quoting snipped for brevity*
The "Too videogame-y" quote was never used in that context. Stop twisting the truth.
ME2 had plenty of cut stuff too. where is the initiative to restore it, uh?

Not really twisting the truth here...Hudson referred the boss battle as being too video gamey. Instead, he took this ****ty intellectual approach. Given how horrible and flat the entire mission was, I think it's perfectly fair to assume that Hudson's reaction to a game with all that stuff mentioned would've been along the lines of "too video gamey"

Nope, it's not perfectly fair to assume that, your reasoning makes no sense.
The quote refers to the final fight with the Illusive Man being cut/changed into a "verbal fight". And for that situation in particular Casey was right. Having a Boss Battle during that moment just for the sake of following videogame convention would have been ten times as dumb and cheesy as The Human Reaper was.


It does bother me that things like that get used out of context, specially when this board resorts to parroting so damn much, because in this day and age is too damn hard to look for actual sources, it seems ("Let's just copy and paste that sarcastic guy, I'm soooo clever"). 
Pretty soon the "Video-gamey" quote is going to be used to respond to things it was never meant to and where it doesn't belong. And then it will join the pool of buzzwords along with "space magic", and others. Rendering actual discussion completely useless.

My line about ME2 was because (potentially interesting) stuff gets left on the editing room floor all the time. and this isn't exactly new or exciting, so it's hardly worth it to go on a rampage over it. Would it be cool to have this content back  in on the EC? Yes it would. I wouldn't hold my breath tho. 

[Eterna]

Maybe they'll add it to the extended cut?