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[dreman9999]

lord_shift wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

lord_shift wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

If they charge for the ending....Don't buy it or any other bw game. Plain and simple.

You assume I will be downloading the EC or even buying future BioWare games. I will not.

If you're posting on BW boads, you are going to get ec. If you were done witrh bw, you would not be here.

Yes, because the world is black and white, either one extreme or another. I come here to discuss the ending. /sarcasm

Please do not try to paint me with the same limited palette you color your view of the world.

It not a black and white thing. It's human behavior. If you did not care you would not be here, point blank. Heck, you're not really dicussing the ending anyway. It human logic to not involve your self with something you no longer have feeling for.

[G00N3R7883]

Orange Tee wrote...

Also the guy who said "If you guys knew what we're planning, you'd keep your copy of ME3 forever"

That might just be a reference to all the weekly multiplayer events.

[DTKT]

G00N3R7883 wrote...

Orange Tee wrote...

Also the guy who said "If you guys knew what we're planning, you'd keep your copy of ME3 forever"

That might just be a reference to all the weekly multiplayer events.

Probably. They are pushing really hard to prevent people from reselling the game.

[FS3D]

dreman9999 wrote...

lord_shift wrote...

Yes, because the world is black and white, either one extreme or another. I come here to discuss the ending. /sarcasm

Please do not try to paint me with the same limited palette you color your view of the world.

It not a black and white thing. It's human behavior. If you did not care you would not be here, point blank. Heck, you're not really dicussing the ending anyway. It human logic to not involve your self with something you no longer have feeling for.

You don't know that. To suggest otherwise is arrogance in the extreme.

I cannot sell my copy of ME3, or I would have done so. I still visit the boards in the slim chance that they might redeem themselves, but I'm not holding my breath.

I come here to see what else is going to go down next. It's like a train wreck, and people like you going on about this entitlement business like you did in previous posts is pretty amusing.

Don't tell other people how to conduct themselves and whether they have a right to post here or not. It's not your right.

[lord_shift]

DTKT wrote...

G00N3R7883 wrote...

Orange Tee wrote...

Also the guy who said "If you guys knew what we're planning, you'd keep your copy of ME3 forever"

That might just be a reference to all the weekly multiplayer events.

Probably. They are pushing really hard to prevent people from reselling the game.

Or flat-out returning it - not to mention, stores have slashed prices to half the original MSRP.

[DJBare]

lord_shift wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

The IT guys often just see is a marine helping others and no one helping the kid while they miss the marine looking at the kid as it's behind the legs, but clearly visible if you watch the entire video. They also miss the helping marine and the not helping one are on two different shuttles.

In all fairness, it also looks like the marine is looking at the ship, ready to leave.

It also does not explain the person standing on the shuttle facing outward not helping the child to board, it's a stretch at best.

[FS3D]

I'd also like to request that the OP change the title of this thread to "Indoctrination IDEA takes another blow to the ribs". The indoctrination idea is not a theory, or even a hypothesis.

[Newnation]

I'm sorry but the reason I can't get behind It is because of the evidence. The majority of it is circumstantial and speculative at best.

[Dnayew]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ ribs

[dreman9999]

FS3D wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

lord_shift wrote...

Yes, because the world is black and white, either one extreme or another. I come here to discuss the ending. /sarcasm

Please do not try to paint me with the same limited palette you color your view of the world.

It not a black and white thing. It's human behavior. If you did not care you would not be here, point blank. Heck, you're not really dicussing the ending anyway. It human logic to not involve your self with something you no longer have feeling for.

You don't know that. To suggest otherwise is arrogance in the extreme.

I cannot sell my copy of ME3, or I would have done so. I still visit the boards in the slim chance that they might redeem themselves, but I'm not holding my breath.

I come here to see what else is going to go down next. It's like a train wreck, and people like you going on about this entitlement business like you did in previous posts is pretty amusing.

Don't tell other people how to conduct themselves and whether they have a right to post here or not. It's not your right.

I'm not. I'm just saying what human nature is. I said if they were done with BW they would not be here not should not be here. It human nature to do things for a reason. If a person is done with BW, what'sthe reaso to be here? That's my point.

[liggy002]

DTKT wrote...

G00N3R7883 wrote...

Orange Tee wrote...

Also the guy who said "If you guys knew what we're planning, you'd keep your copy of ME3 forever"

That might just be a reference to all the weekly multiplayer events.

Probably. They are pushing really hard to prevent people from reselling the game.

I seriously doubt that.

[dreman9999]

Newnation wrote...

I'm sorry but the reason I can't get behind It is because of the evidence. The majority of it is circumstantial and speculative at best.

Then you don't understand that fact supporting it..
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

[OdanUrr]

dreman9999 wrote...

Newnation wrote...

I'm sorry but the reason I can't get behind It is because of the evidence. The majority of it is circumstantial and speculative at best.

Then you don't understand that fact supporting it..
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

Fact 1. What exactly is your evidence for that? Just curious.

Fact 2. Some, certainly, but not all of them.

Fact 3. True.

Fact 4. Yes and no. If you play the DLC, he has a vision, we have no idea whether this is or not indoctrination. If you didn't play Arrival, he goes nowhere near Object Rho.

Fact 5. I think this is probably true.

Fact 6. They can't manipulate dreams, they can manipulate you into "dreaming" something in particular.

Fact 7. Maybe... So?

Fact 8. Yeah, the whispers of your dead companions. This is like saying, "an engineer knows math; he knows math; therefore, he is an engineer."

Modifié par OdanUrr, 26 avril 2012 - 04:03 .

[blooregard]

I don't know if this was posted here yet but Mike also tweeted (I can't copy paste it since twitter is being stupid)

well, the alternatives were essentially what saren and the illusive man wanted.

the things the devs have been saying about the indoc theory have been one thing that looks good for it and another thing that looks bad for it. They dodged the question at PAX and they refuse to comment on it leaving us all fighting each other with one camp saying its true and the other camp saying its not. Twitters from Mike, Jessica, or even Weekes are more than likely nothing more then opinion because they can't give you the facts of weather or not the theory is true or false.

[Newnation]

Yes most of those are facts but when you apply them to the game it is still circumstantial evidence and speculation. People always point to Shep being Indoctrinated but your squad from all three games and the resistance have been around as much reaper tech as you have. Some have been around it with Shep and yet they are not indoctrinated. While those are facts saying that it automatically makes Shep indoctrinated is just wrong. Its like saying a whale is a fish and not a mammal simply because they have similar characteristics to fish.

I would probably also get rid of #4. As mentioned by others, if you didn't do arrival than a squad of marines did. Also Shep only gets hit by the beam if s/he takes out all the waves of guards attacking.

Modifié par Newnation, 26 avril 2012 - 04:21 .

[lord_shift]

blooregard wrote...

I don't know if this was posted here yet but Mike also tweeted (I can't copy paste it since twitter is being stupid)

well, the alternatives were essentially what saren and the illusive man wanted.

the things the devs have been saying about the indoc theory have been one thing that looks good for it and another thing that looks bad for it. They dodged the question at PAX and they refuse to comment on it leaving us all fighting each other with one camp saying its true and the other camp saying its not. Twitters from Mike, Jessica, or even Weekes are more than likely nothing more then opinion because they can't give you the facts of weather or not the theory is true or false.

Actually, that was my response to his response about destroy not being the best ending. Of course, from a very straightforward point of view it's not the best ending (genocide is never an answer), but the alternatives weren't that morally right either (in my opinion). He didn't really respond to that inquiry, I guess I have more speculation I need to do lol.

[Trentgamer]

Of course indoc theory took a blow, probably because it's not the ending and they never intended it to be.

[Capeo]

dreman9999 wrote...

Newnation wrote...

I'm sorry but the reason I can't get behind It is because of the evidence. The majority of it is circumstantial and speculative at best.

Then you don't understand that fact supporting it..
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

None of those are facts.  They're weak interpretations at best.  We already know IT is wrong so to even keep harping on it is utterly pointless.

[balance5050]

Trentgamer wrote...

Of course indoc theory took a blow, probably because it's not the ending and they never intended it to be.

Huh? but they had a sequence where Shepard LOST CONTROL OF HIS BODY TO REAPER INDOCTRINATION in Novermber acording to the "Final Hours" app. Doesn't that prove that it WAS intended at oe time at least?

[balance5050]

 
The evidence is that he wakes up amongst concrete rubble after just being in the middle of this:

  
 
 

Also, the white light "dream transition effect is very telling that the ending could be a combination of a dream and being somehow mentally linked to some reaper somehow.


Dreams
http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

  
Shepard in Geth consensus



The ending

  

Also, look at Shepards eyes when he chooses either control or synthesize

 

[dreman9999]

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Newnation wrote...

I'm sorry but the reason I can't get behind It is because of the evidence. The majority of it is circumstantial and speculative at best.

Then you don't understand that fact supporting it..
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

Fact 1. What exactly is your evidence for that? Just curious.

Fact 2. Some, certainly, but not all of them.

Fact 3. True.

Fact 4. Yes and no. If you play the DLC, he has a vision, we have no idea whether this is or not indoctrination. If you didn't play Arrival, he goes nowhere near Object Rho.

Fact 5. I think this is probably true.

Fact 6. They can't manipulate dreams, they can manipulate you into "dreaming" something in particular.

Fact 7. Maybe... So?

Fact 8. Yeah, the whispers of your dead companions. This is like saying, "an engineer knows math; he knows math; therefore, he is an engineer."

1. ME1...All of it. You have to be deaf to miss it. Every fan should know this. It's stated over and over again on Virmire.

2. ME1 and ME2. Everyone you meet who is indoctrinated state they here whispers. It's another thing every ME fan should know. It's stated a billion times in the series.

4. If you don't do arrival. Fact 3 still applies.

5.I added a link and a source to comfermit. It's true.

6.Did you even check the links? They make it clear as day to say they don't is to say this did not happen.
http://www.youtube.c...FRvDUp4#t=690s 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL48B6A3172825B65F&feature=player_detailpage&v=CAstYTITiTw#t=249s  

You can't really argue ageinst anything with a clear source.

7.That mean they can finish Shepard indoctrination slowly from a distance. Which is a reason why Shep has the weird dreams.

8.It's not just dead on compinions...I'm refering to the background noise not what you dead compinions say.

[dreman9999]

Capeo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Newnation wrote...

I'm sorry but the reason I can't get behind It is because of the evidence. The majority of it is circumstantial and speculative at best.

Then you don't understand that fact supporting it..
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

None of those are facts.  They're weak interpretations at best.  We already know IT is wrong so to even keep harping on it is utterly pointless.

You just  said no one gets indoctrinated by being near a reaper.... Do you really want to make your self look that wrong? That mean you ether never played ME1, or you did not pay attetion...Pick you poison.

[Linksys17]

crimzontearz wrote...

"about the endings, yes we are listening"

no, you are hearings us but you are not listening

Correction: they are listening, however they do not care 

BioEA logic: Money>Fanbase 

As shephard once said "deal with it"

[liggy002]

balance5050 wrote...

 
The evidence is that he wakes up amongst concrete rubble after just being in the middle of this:

  
 
 

Also, the white light "dream transition effect is very telling that the ending could be a combination of a dream and being somehow mentally linked to some reaper somehow.


Dreams
http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

  
Shepard in Geth consensus



The ending

  

Also, look at Shepards eyes when he chooses either control or synthesize

 

In other words, IT did not take another blow to the ribs.  Score one for the IT team.